Overclocking issue i5 4670k with MSI Z87-G43

[artemius23]

Hi guys,

My setup :

CPU : i5 4670k
Motherboard : MSI Z87-G43
PSU : Corsair CX600
Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
RAM : Kingston Hyper X 8gb 1600
GPU : Asus GTX 760 OC
HDD : Seagate 1TB

I am pretty new to overclocking so decided to get professional opinions from the community.

At the moment OC Genie overclocked my CPU to 4.0 ghz and it is super stable with temperature during stress test is no more than 60.

I have watched several videos on YouTube and read this forum of course. I have tried BIOS overclock to 4.5 ghz and voltage at 1.200. This gives me a blue screen and crushes.

My BIOS is 1.30 but Live Update shows that there is a 1.50 version avail;able for this motherboard.

Does it make a difference ?


My Questions :

1) How far can i push this setup ? Judging by info in the internet I am pretty sure that I can sustain 4.5 ghz per core. Why is it giving me BSOD and all sorts of crushing problems ? Is it Voltage ?
What will be the best way to approuch it ? Btw, I am running stress test in MSI Intel Extreme Tuning Utility ? Should I use Prime ?

I will appreciate every opinion. Thanks in advance. If you need extra info I will happily provide it.

2) Do I really need to overclock it more than 4.0 ghz for modern gaming ? My friend is telling me that i won`t feel any differance if i OC it to 4.3-4.5 ghz. I just felt that having i5 4670k it is a sin not to push it over 4.3 ghz


I do appreciate your help guys.

 

[Jonathan Cave]

im also getting the same cpu and cooler, would love to see some replys to this if anyone can help.

 

[Y0GI]

I have that MB and CPU combo. I have been able to OC to 4.7 GHz which will run 10 passes of Intel Burn Test on Very High, but I have trouble running Prime95. I got most of my tips from this thread: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1722630/intel-god-quick-dirty-guide-4ghz-haswell.html

As to why you are getting crashes and BSODs, I would say your Vcore is too low. Try 1.250 v. and if that doesn't work, try 1.260, and on and on up to 1.3 v. but no more than 1.3 v. and keep a close eye on your core temps during stress testing. For Haswell, 90*C. is the maximum safe temperature during stress testing. Normal operation and gaming should have maximum temps in the 75*C. to 80*C. range. Be sure to use "Override" mode for voltage in stress testing as "Adaptive" will lead to voltage excursions above your desired maximum.

I don't know if it makes any difference but I am running the latest v. 1.50 BIOS. It is super easy to flash the update using the MSI User Forum Flash Tool. NEVER USE LIVE UPDATE TO FLASH YOUR BIOS AS THIS MAY BRICK YOUR MB!! Here is a link to the flash tool: http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=108079.msg800577#msg800577
BIOS D/L page here: http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=163900.0

Yogi

 

[artemius23]

I thought Live Update is an awesome easy to use tool. But now you scared me I will definately update my Bios as I think that might be a problem.

 

[Y0GI]

I thought Live Update is an awesome easy to use tool. But now you scared me I will definately update my Bios as I think that might be a problem.

Good plan. Holler if you need any help.

Yogi

 

[Y0GI]

Be sure to use the option to "update bios plus ME". That is the Intel Management Engine. After the update of the bios and M E go into Windows and update the ME drivers.

Yogi

 

[Y0GI]

MSI has just posted a new BIOS update on the MSI Users Forum: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=170132.new;topicseen#new

According to the release notes, the Intel CPU microcode has been updated and there is also a new version of Intel's Management Engine in the new BIOS. As stated previously, be sure to update your ME driver in Windows after the BIOS update.

Yogi

 

[Y0GI]

Be sure that your system is NOT OC'ed when doing a BIOS update. Go into the BIOS and "Load Optimized Defaults" by pressing F6, then F10 to Save and Restart.

Yogi

 

[Jonathan Cave]

Be sure that your system is NOT OC'ed when doing a BIOS update. Go into the BIOS and "Load Optimized Defaults" by pressing F6, then F10 to Save and Restart.

Yogi

Would this damage the bios ? Just curious

 

[Y0GI]

Be sure that your system is NOT OC'ed when doing a BIOS update. Go into the BIOS and "Load Optimized Defaults" by pressing F6, then F10 to Save and Restart.

Yogi

Would this damage the bios ? Just curious

It's possible that it would result in a bad BIOS flash and brick the MB. Better to be safe than sorry!

Yogi

 

[maxstygian]

Be sure that your system is NOT OC'ed when doing a BIOS update. Go into the BIOS and "Load Optimized Defaults" by pressing F6, then F10 to Save and Restart.

Yogi

Would this damage the bios ? Just curious

It's possible that it would result in a bad BIOS flash and brick the MB. Better to be safe than sorry!

Yogi

so the liveupdate is really an unreliable tools such for updating bios ?

 

[Y0GI]

Be sure that your system is NOT OC'ed when doing a BIOS update. Go into the BIOS and "Load Optimized Defaults" by pressing F6, then F10 to Save and Restart.

Yogi

Would this damage the bios ? Just curious

It's possible that it would result in a bad BIOS flash and brick the MB. Better to be safe than sorry!

Yogi

so the liveupdate is really an unreliable tools such for updating bios ?

Yes, LU flashing is unreliable as are most Windows based BIOS update tools.

Use the DOS based MSI HQ User Forum Flash Tool that I posted links to above.

Yogi

 

[maxstygian]

Be sure that your system is NOT OC'ed when doing a BIOS update. Go into the BIOS and "Load Optimized Defaults" by pressing F6, then F10 to Save and Restart.

Yogi

Would this damage the bios ? Just curious

It's possible that it would result in a bad BIOS flash and brick the MB. Better to be safe than sorry!

Yogi

so the liveupdate is really an unreliable tools such for updating bios ?

Yes, LU flashing is unreliable as are most Windows based BIOS update tools.

Use the DOS based MSI HQ User Forum Flash Tool that I posted links to above.

Yogi

can i use the Dos tools to update my MSI Z97-G43 mobo ?

 

[Y0GI]

can i use the Dos tools to update my MSI Z97-G43 mobo ?

I'm not aware of an MSI Z97-G43 MB. If that is a typo and you meant the Z87-G43, then yes, you can most definitely use the MSI HQ User Forum DOS Flash Tool as I have personally used it myself on that board. It works really well!

Yogi