[SOLVED] Overclocking Kingston DDR3 4GB DIMM KVR1333D3N9/4G

[sam.devilz19]

Hi Guys,

Hope everyone's doing great during this quarantine.

I have been interested in building a budget PC with lowest cost possible, in doing so, have stumbled a situation where my Motherboard is defaulting my 4GB DDR3 RAM stick to 800 MHz. I wold like to set its speed to its maximum potential which is 1333 MHz for the getting the best performance out of it.


RAM details - https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KVR1333D3N9_4G.pdf
CPU details - https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...ssor-e5700-2m-cache-3-00-ghz-800-mhz-fsb.html
Motherboard details - https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/product-briefs/g41-chipset-brief.pdf

It would be great if you could assist me with the timings to be able to make it work on 1333 MHz.

My current CPUz Timings look something like this - https://ibb.co/RpVkNwh

Thank you in advance for your help!

Cheers,
Sam

 

[cin19]

You may try it out like the review , I used the google translate: "In the next step we tried the DDR3-1600 CL8-8-8-24, but despite 1.64 volts we couldn't get into the BIOS. With latencies of CL9-9-9-24, however, we were able to start Windows without any problems and also perform all performance measurements. This even worked with the standard voltage of 1.50 volts. " But nobody will know you can or can't until you try it out by yourself.

The review https://www.au-ja.de/review-kingston-kvr1333d3n9-4g-ddr3-1333-3.phtml

 

[sam.devilz19]

You may try it out like the review , I used the google translate: "In the next step we tried the DDR3-1600 CL8-8-8-24, but despite 1.64 volts we couldn't get into the BIOS. With latencies of CL9-9-9-24, however, we were able to start Windows without any problems and also perform all performance measurements. This even worked with the standard voltage of 1.50 volts. " But nobody will know you can or can't until you try it out by yourself.

The review https://www.au-ja.de/review-kingston-kvr1333d3n9-4g-ddr3-1333-3.phtml

Thanks mate for sharing the interesting post, it helped me understand quite a few things, however, my BIOS seem to have more fields than the the fields mentioned, I'm not sure, if I'm supposed to leave them as they are or they will be required to be changed like other values.

My BIOS setting look something like this - https://ibb.co/xL7J3G7

Parameter ->Original value->New value

tCL -> 6 -> 9
tRAS -> 15 -> 24
tRP -> 6 -> 9
tRCD -> 6 -> 9

tWR -> 6 -> ?
tRFC - 64 - 107
tWTR - 4 -> ?
tRRD - 3 -> ?
tRTP - 4 -> ?

Can you please tell me what values should be added to the "?" above?

 

[cin19]

DRAM frequency: from auto to manual.
Configure DRAM timing by SPD: disable to enable, or auto(?), or something else (?)

For other values ( tWR, tRFC, etc) , check the linker for more info, sorry I don't know what exactly setting too.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/180...le-posting-resuts-using-rule-appreciated.html

 

[SamirD]

Did they not work full speed on auto? They're also running in single channel mode which may be a clue to the root cause.

 

[cin19]

Auto, it will run at 1333mhz.

 

[cin19]

You may check the MB manual, because for the g41 MB, there is ( maybe) the pin setting for using 1333mhz RAM.

 

[Calvin7]

The DDR3-1600MHz example is done on an x58 Chipset motherboard.

Most G41 Chipset motherboards use low-density memory.
2x4GB DDR3 1066MHz
https://www.ebay.com/itm/8GB-2x-4GB...Non-ECC-1066-Low-Density-RAM-8G-/331724485983

 

[sam.devilz19]

The DDR3-1600MHz example is done on an x58 Chipset motherboard.

Most G41 Chipset motherboards use low-density memory.
2x4GB DDR3 1066MHz
https://www.ebay.com/itm/8GB-2x-4GB...Non-ECC-1066-Low-Density-RAM-8G-/331724485983

I checked in the motherboard manual, and it was capable of supporting 2x4GB DDR3 DIMMS at 1333 MHZ Frequency.

 

[sam.devilz19]

Did they not work full speed on auto? They're also running in single channel mode which may be a clue to the root cause.

Naah man, it was forced to be clocked on 800 MHz on auto. The motherboard is capable of running it 1333 even in single channel mode.

 

[sam.devilz19]

DRAM frequency: from auto to manual.
Configure DRAM timing by SPD: disable to enable, or auto(?), or something else (?)

For other values ( tWR, tRFC, etc) , check the linker for more info, sorry I don't know what exactly setting too.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/180...le-posting-resuts-using-rule-appreciated.html

Yes, there is an option to change the DRAM frequency from auto to either 800, 1066 or 1333. So when I switch it to 1333 with default timings (https://ibb.co/xL7J3G7) the PC does not boot and I am required to pull out the CMOS which sets BIOS back to default settings with DRAM freq being 800.

 

[SamirD]

Naah man, it was forced to be clocked on 800 MHz on auto. The motherboard is capable of running it 1333 even in single channel mode.

Yes, there is an option to change the DRAM frequency from auto to either 800, 1066 or 1333. So when I switch it to 1333 with default timings (https://ibb.co/xL7J3G7) the PC does not boot and I am required to pull out the CMOS which sets BIOS back to default settings with DRAM freq being 800.

Sounds like the board doesn't like the ram. Do you have another set you can try? That's the only way to know if it's the board or the ram.

 

[sam.devilz19]

Sounds like the board doesn't like the ram. Do you have another set you can try? That's the only way to know if it's the board or the ram.

I think the issue is with wrong timings set, I was able to find the below values from the thread shared by @cin19 on this thread, although I am not sure about what to set for the remaining values below.

Parameter ->Original value->New value

tCL -> 6 -> 9
tRAS -> 15 -> 24
tRP -> 6 -> 9
tRCD -> 6 -> 9

tWR -> 6 -> ?
tRFC - 64 - 107
tWTR - 4 -> ?
tRRD - 3 -> ?
tRTP - 4 -> ?

I think this should solve the problem.

 

[SamirD]

I think the issue is with wrong timings set, I was able to find the below values from the thread shared by @cin19 on this thread, although I am not sure about what to set for the remaining values below.

Parameter ->Original value->New value

tCL -> 6 -> 9
tRAS -> 15 -> 24
tRP -> 6 -> 9
tRCD -> 6 -> 9

tWR -> 6 -> ?
tRFC - 64 - 107
tWTR - 4 -> ?
tRRD - 3 -> ?
tRTP - 4 -> ?

I think this should solve the problem.

Ah, I see what the issue is--the timings are too tight for 1333.

The spec sheet you linked to has some of these:
tRFC - 160 vs 107
tRAS - 36 vs 24

tWR -> 6 -> 12 to 14
tWTR - 4 -> 6 to 8
tRRD - 3 -> 4 to 5
tRTP - 4 -> 5 to 7

Basically you can try higher numbers and it should work and then you can reduce them until it stops working. Then you know the minimum amount you can run.

For reference, I got these values from here:
https://forums.tweaktown.com/archive/index.php/t-31443.html

https://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/590023-A-plan-for-overclocking-DDR3

 

[sam.devilz19]

Ah, I see what the issue is--the timings are too tight for 1333.

The spec sheet you linked to has some of these:
tRFC - 160 vs 107
tRAS - 36 vs 24

tWR -> 6 -> 12 to 14
tWTR - 4 -> 6 to 8
tRRD - 3 -> 4 to 5
tRTP - 4 -> 5 to 7

Basically you can try higher numbers and it should work and then you can reduce them until it stops working. Then you know the minimum amount you can run.

For reference, I got these values from here:
https://forums.tweaktown.com/archive/index.php/t-31443.html

https://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/590023-A-plan-for-overclocking-DDR3

Tried these values and my PC wouldn't boot up. I had to pop out the CMOS to make it work. I think these values are for dual channel mode?

 

[SamirD]

Shouldn't matter dual channel or single. These are just timings for the memory modules themselves.