Overheating CPU?, brand new rig

[Adam Cooper]

This is a post I put on a game forum I play, hoping for answers there 🙁, and was sent here . Not sure why but its copied and pasted so I dont have to retype. pls HELP!



Hey guys got my rig built and put together. Heres what i'm running for hardware!

CPU: AMD fx-6300 6-core 3.5 GHz processor. Maybe when I add in more fans/cooling methods I will OC my cpu to 4.1 which is the OC is rated for. Runs World of Tanks on ultra at 50+ frames though currently

GPU: Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce Gtx 660 2GB GDDR5 RAM dual fan/heatsink for cooling.

RAM: 4 GB 1600MHz

MOBO: MSI 970A-G43 Which holds 2/1 3.0 usb, and 6/1 2.0 usb. 6 SATA 6 gb/s connections, AM3+ socket, No onboard video, so no power wasted. and onboard HD audio.

Power Supply: 500 Watt LEPR 80+ power supply. Lots of power output, and circuit protection.

HD: WD 1TB 6 GB/s

Disc: OEM ASUS disc writer/reader - See more at: What i walked outta fry's electronics with...


Now The build is overheating (I believe) It normally would only shut-down while a game and maybe a google chrome running. It runs it without lag or problems. But every now and then it just shuts down on me. I have been trying to watch my processor temp, and the program I have says the lowest it idles is at about 15-25C. and maximizes (from what I seen) at around 60C during big explosions and such in games. I have not been lucky enough to be watching my processor temp when it shuts down...I dont overclock my cpu either, but every now and then the cpu temp program i have says the processor is clocking at (up to) 4.1GHz, I know thats past what it should be running considering 4.1 is the turbo speed on my processor and 3.5GHz is the base main speed...why would my processor be auto-overclocking, when I have a stock heatsink, and the temperatures are obviously getting too high to let it overclock....

Edit: Oh btw my comp is idling right now at 17C with just tomshardware and my core temp program called: Core Temp 1.0 RC6
- See more at: http://www.d2region.com/forum/f35/overheating-problems-help-1195/#post4480

 

[pyr0_m4n]

That doesn't sound like a heat issue. It's strange because if you had a heat issue, normally your idle temps would be higher (30-40) or at least that's the way I've seen other build work. Download a program called "prime95" It's a CPU burn in program used for testing overclocks. Run the program at max load and watch your temps. It'll tell you in 30 seconds if your CPU is overheating.

 

[Onus]

It's your motherboard. It appears on this spreadsheet: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AgN1D79Joo7tdE9xMUFlMEVWeFhuckJEVF9aMmtpUFE&gid=0 for having VRM issues. You'll likely need to forgo overclocking on it, and also make sure you have sufficient airflow through your case to cool those VRMs.

 

[Adam Cooper]

I just ran that program and it hit 60C in about 10 mins, I turned it off at that time because I dont want to take any chances of frying my CPU

 

[Adam Cooper]

It's your motherboard. It appears on this spreadsheet: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AgN1D79Joo7tdE9xMUFlMEVWeFhuckJEVF9aMmtpUFE&gid=0 for having VRM issues. You'll likely need to forgo overclocking on it, and also make sure you have sufficient airflow through your case to cool those VRMs.

Im using a RaidMax Blade mesh front and separate air flow for the power supply. Lately ive been unclipping the three extra front slots and letting air flow through better (Not having to go through the mesh.) Is there a way to get heatsinks for the VRMs?

 

[pyr0_m4n]

I just ran that program and it hit 60C in about 10 mins, I turned it off at that time because I dont want to take any chances of frying my CPU

I looked up your thermal limit and it should be safe up to 71C. Technically, it will go much higher, but that's in the danger zone. I've hit 85C with my AMD, but I don't recommend doing that.

 

[Adam Cooper]

I just ran that program and it hit 60C in about 10 mins, I turned it off at that time because I dont want to take any chances of frying my CPU

I looked up your thermal limit and it should be safe up to 71C. Technically, it will go much higher, but that's in the danger zone. I've hit 85C with my AMD, but I don't recommend doing that.

Ok I'll run the program but i'm turning it off at 70C.

 

[pyr0_m4n]

I just ran that program and it hit 60C in about 10 mins, I turned it off at that time because I dont want to take any chances of frying my CPU

I looked up your thermal limit and it should be safe up to 71C. Technically, it will go much higher, but that's in the danger zone. I've hit 85C with my AMD, but I don't recommend doing that.

Ok I'll run the program but i'm turning it off at 70C.

You shouldn't have to do that. Prime95 by default is way more demanding than any game is going to be. If prime can't overheat it within a few minutes, I seriously doubt any game you have would.

 

[Adam Cooper]

I just ran that program and it hit 60C in about 10 mins, I turned it off at that time because I dont want to take any chances of frying my CPU

I looked up your thermal limit and it should be safe up to 71C. Technically, it will go much higher, but that's in the danger zone. I've hit 85C with my AMD, but I don't recommend doing that.

Ok I'll run the program but i'm turning it off at 70C.

You shouldn't have to do that. Prime95 by default is way more demanding than any game is going to be. If prime can't overheat it within a few minutes, I seriously doubt any game you have would.

Im actually running it right now and it seems stable at 55-58C. But if this isnt it, Then it has to be something shutting it down.

 

[Onus]

The issue isn't your CPU overheating (it will throttle if it overheats), but the VRMs on your motherboard, which will sizzle and pop if they overheat.
Something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835708012 could be used, but they will still need airflow to be effective. They are also not an outright cure, but should help.

 

[Adam Cooper]

I will look into that. And because of the VRM's I will not be letting my games and stuff idle, which is what i think is overheating them. BTW before I close it, would you guys recommend "inexpensive" Mobo's I could replace mine with...I dont want anything thats cheap and poorly built. Not with how much i've already invested. I would like to oc in the future and would like advice on what board to get for that, and what cooler for my cpu. I already picked out the RAM im going to upgrade to. 8GB ddr3 2400mhz

 

[Onus]

While not normally at the top of my list, Biostar has this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138372 which is not noted from the spreadsheet I linked for having issues.

 

[MFBLO96]

60c is not a dangerous temp for the cpu, constantly being above 80 is when there is a reason to worry, my dad is an electrical engineer in the semiconductor industry, and 10-12 degrees more halves lifespans. If people run thier chips in the 70's for years yours will be just fine at 60.

Currently, hardware become obsolete before it will wear out

 

[Onus]

CPU temps are not the issue here MFBLO96. Even if they're a little warm, they don't look dangerous. It's the VRMs, for which readings may not be available, which are very likely overheating, even if the CPU is relatively cool.
Even the "finger test" might be used, but be careful not to burn yourself, they could indeed be quite hot.

 

[Adam Cooper]

CPU temps are not the issue here MFBLO96. Even if they're a little warm, they don't look dangerous. It's the VRMs, for which readings may not be available, which are very likely overheating, even if the CPU is relatively cool.
Even the "finger test" might be used, but be careful not to burn yourself, they could indeed be quite hot.

Thanks ill do that. I have a friend for these "finger tests" you speak of 😉