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A client bought a used Dell Trinitron P1110 21" monitor with a new microATX
box - ASUS P4R800-VM (ATI RADEON 9100 IGP) - running WinXP Pro SP1 @
1024x768. Naturally the monitor came without software or documentation and
I wasn't there to stop him.

His office is configured such that he must sit within about 14" of the
monitor and the screen is almost unwatchable due to flicker. More than
five minutes using Office (or any other app) equals much squinting and
tearing and eventual nasty headache sometimes followed by kicking the cat.

I found two sets of drivers on driverguide.com but neither seem to work at
all (which is to say any better than the "Default" XP driver). The refresh
at any rez (800x600 through 1600x1200 is a constant 60Hz according to the
onscreen monitor controls. Win will *tell* you that it has changed the
refresh when told to do so but doesn't - as evidence telling it to refresh
at 200Hz not only doesn't make it explode ;-) but doesn't change it from
the apparently default 60Hz. I've also played with the onscreen moire
controls to no effect.

I found the Dell support page for the monitor which wasn't too helpful
other than to tell me that the max. refresh is 85Hz and to not clean the
screen with steel wool.

Do you think that it's just an apparently insoluble driver issue or if
there's something physically wrong with the monitor?

Any suggestions are welcome including taking a three pound hammer to it.
 
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You do not need a driver for the monitor. It should be listed as a "plug
and play" monitor. I have this monitor. It have it set at 1280 x 1024
85hz.

"Bubba Ho-Tep" <bubba@ho.tep> wrote in message
news:989boan7w78k.y8iule35kt4s$.dlg@40tude.net...
>A client bought a used Dell Trinitron P1110 21" monitor with a new microATX
> box - ASUS P4R800-VM (ATI RADEON 9100 IGP) - running WinXP Pro SP1 @
> 1024x768. Naturally the monitor came without software or documentation
> and
> I wasn't there to stop him.
>
> His office is configured such that he must sit within about 14" of the
> monitor and the screen is almost unwatchable due to flicker. More than
> five minutes using Office (or any other app) equals much squinting and
> tearing and eventual nasty headache sometimes followed by kicking the cat.
>
> I found two sets of drivers on driverguide.com but neither seem to work at
> all (which is to say any better than the "Default" XP driver). The
> refresh
> at any rez (800x600 through 1600x1200 is a constant 60Hz according to the
> onscreen monitor controls. Win will *tell* you that it has changed the
> refresh when told to do so but doesn't - as evidence telling it to refresh
> at 200Hz not only doesn't make it explode ;-) but doesn't change it from
> the apparently default 60Hz. I've also played with the onscreen moire
> controls to no effect.
>
> I found the Dell support page for the monitor which wasn't too helpful
> other than to tell me that the max. refresh is 85Hz and to not clean the
> screen with steel wool.
>
> Do you think that it's just an apparently insoluble driver issue or if
> there's something physically wrong with the monitor?
>
> Any suggestions are welcome including taking a three pound hammer to it.
 
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You can d/l the driver at Dell support. I have that same monitor as well
running 85hz.
Bob
"WSZsr" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| You do not need a driver for the monitor. It should be listed as a "plug
| and play" monitor. I have this monitor. It have it set at 1280 x 1024
| 85hz.
|
| "Bubba Ho-Tep" <bubba@ho.tep> wrote in message
| news:989boan7w78k.y8iule35kt4s$.dlg@40tude.net...
| >A client bought a used Dell Trinitron P1110 21" monitor with a new
microATX
| > box - ASUS P4R800-VM (ATI RADEON 9100 IGP) - running WinXP Pro SP1 @
| > 1024x768. Naturally the monitor came without software or documentation
| > and
| > I wasn't there to stop him.
| >
| > His office is configured such that he must sit within about 14" of the
| > monitor and the screen is almost unwatchable due to flicker. More than
| > five minutes using Office (or any other app) equals much squinting and
| > tearing and eventual nasty headache sometimes followed by kicking the
cat.
| >
| > I found two sets of drivers on driverguide.com but neither seem to work
at
| > all (which is to say any better than the "Default" XP driver). The
| > refresh
| > at any rez (800x600 through 1600x1200 is a constant 60Hz according to
the
| > onscreen monitor controls. Win will *tell* you that it has changed the
| > refresh when told to do so but doesn't - as evidence telling it to
refresh
| > at 200Hz not only doesn't make it explode ;-) but doesn't change it from
| > the apparently default 60Hz. I've also played with the onscreen moire
| > controls to no effect.
| >
| > I found the Dell support page for the monitor which wasn't too helpful
| > other than to tell me that the max. refresh is 85Hz and to not clean the
| > screen with steel wool.
| >
| > Do you think that it's just an apparently insoluble driver issue or if
| > there's something physically wrong with the monitor?
| >
| > Any suggestions are welcome including taking a three pound hammer to it.
|
|
 
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Thank you very much for your input, Bob & WSZsr.

If XP-Pro SP1 could detect the monitor as Plug'n'Pray seems to me that it
would have, but it didn't, just generic (Default) monitor. I'll double
check the BIOS settings next time I go over (maybe tomorrow) but don't
think that's the issue.

The only drivers I could find via Dell Support appear to be the same ones
offered through driverguide; a signed WinME driver and an unsigned 95/98
driver (or maybe it's the other way 'round). I think one of them is
certified for Win2k but none seem to be of use with XP. If there's
anything more on their ftp site I can't seem to connect to it. Maybe have
to specify a port or something, dunno.

If both of you have the P1110 working fine under WinXP with (or without)
the drivers already mentioned, then I have to assume a hardware problem.

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 17:31:28 -0700, Bob wrote:

> You can d/l the driver at Dell support. I have that same monitor as well
> running 85hz.
> Bob
> "WSZsr" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0Sh7d.539$Lk3.240@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> | You do not need a driver for the monitor. It should be listed as a "plug
> | and play" monitor. I have this monitor. It have it set at 1280 x 1024
> | 85hz.
 
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Go to Dell support download section and search for "delmon0_.exe"

or try the following link:

http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/format.aspx?releaseid=r13450&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19


"Bubba Ho-Tep" <bubba@ho.tep> wrote in message
news:1qa7qon6vvv8$.hjzm7pg45w9f$.dlg@40tude.net...
> Thank you very much for your input, Bob & WSZsr.
>
> If XP-Pro SP1 could detect the monitor as Plug'n'Pray seems to me that it
> would have, but it didn't, just generic (Default) monitor. I'll double
> check the BIOS settings next time I go over (maybe tomorrow) but don't
> think that's the issue.
>
> The only drivers I could find via Dell Support appear to be the same ones
> offered through driverguide; a signed WinME driver and an unsigned 95/98
> driver (or maybe it's the other way 'round). I think one of them is
> certified for Win2k but none seem to be of use with XP. If there's
> anything more on their ftp site I can't seem to connect to it. Maybe have
> to specify a port or something, dunno.
>
> If both of you have the P1110 working fine under WinXP with (or without)
> the drivers already mentioned, then I have to assume a hardware problem.
>
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 17:31:28 -0700, Bob wrote:
>
>> You can d/l the driver at Dell support. I have that same monitor as well
>> running 85hz.
>> Bob
>> "WSZsr" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0Sh7d.539$Lk3.240@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>> | You do not need a driver for the monitor. It should be listed as a
>> "plug
>> | and play" monitor. I have this monitor. It have it set at 1280 x 1024
>> | 85hz.
 
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Correction. I have a P1130, not a P1110. Sorry.

"WSZsr" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0Sh7d.539$Lk3.240@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> You do not need a driver for the monitor. It should be listed as a "plug
> and play" monitor. I have this monitor. It have it set at 1280 x 1024
> 85hz.
>
 
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why i oughtta... nyuk, nyuk, nyuk...

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 02:42:03 GMT, WSZsr wrote:

> Correction. I have a P1130, not a P1110. Sorry.
 
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But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express............

"Bubba Ho-Tep" <bubba@ho.tep> wrote in message
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> why i oughtta... nyuk, nyuk, nyuk...
>
> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 02:42:03 GMT, WSZsr wrote:
>
>> Correction. I have a P1130, not a P1110. Sorry.
 
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Thank you very much for your input, Bob & WSZsr.

If XP-Pro SP1 could detect the monitor as Plug'n'Pray seems to me that it
would have, but it didn't, just generic (Default) monitor. I'll double
check the BIOS settings next time I go over (maybe tomorrow) but don't
think that's the issue.

The only drivers I could find via Dell Support appear to be the same ones
offered through driverguide; a signed WinME driver and an unsigned 95/98
driver (or maybe it's the other way 'round). I think one of them is
certified for Win2k but none seem to be of use with XP. If there's
anything more on their ftp site I can't seem to connect to it. Maybe have
to specify a port or something, dunno.

If both of you have the P1110 working fine under WinXP with (or without)
the drivers already mentioned, then I have to assume a hardware problem.

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 17:31:28 -0700, Bob wrote:

> You can d/l the driver at Dell support. I have that same monitor as well
> running 85hz.
> Bob
> "WSZsr" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0Sh7d.539$Lk3.240@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> | You do not need a driver for the monitor. It should be listed as a "plug
> | and play" monitor. I have this monitor. It have it set at 1280 x 1024
> | 85hz.

I have the same problem... Dell with ATI. Can set the Monitor in WinXP SP3 up to 200Hz at 1280x1024 (specs say P1110 should handle 85Hz, so I stay with that in settings). But if hit the physical menu button on the P1110, it always shows 1280x1024 / 60Hz... (and you can tell it is 60Hz)
If anyone knows any solution please send... :)