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'jas' wrote, in part:
| Thanx for the help, with your suggestions I got it up to 350 MHz.
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If you could give specifics about your system, you could get additional
suggestions from the newsgroup. Keep in mind that your motherboard is now
quite old, so give some information about the options in the BIOS and the
jumpers as most people won't remember those specifics and will either have
no specific suggestions or will have to refresh memories by downloading the
manual from the manufacturer.
Additional information:
CPU
Operating system
FSB options
memory
Don't bother with information about the power supply, drives, or display
adapter as these components are really relevant in your case.
You should be able to repair the operating system fairly easily if the
corruption is in the boot up sections (as it usually if the last overclock
failed before getting very far into the OS.
Phil Weldon
"Johnathon Aaron Steel" <me@u.ca> wrote in message
news:27fci11ka6e2aedtn3emg32vosgeo7m3fd@4ax.com...
> Damn thats quite the info set there Phil. Thanx for the help, with
> your sugegstions I got it up to 350mhz. Not great but better. Its just
> an experiment pc so I dont care it it crashes. As for the O/S and Hard
> Drive I see what can happen. Mine wont boot into OS anymore.
>
> Thanx for the help.
>
> appreciate it LOTS
>
> jas
>
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:17:16 GMT, "Phil Weldon"
> <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote:
>
>>'JAS' wrote:
>>| Trying to overclock this but doesnt post. I have changed the BUS FREQ.
>>| to all FS0 1-2 but wont post. Bios upgraded to 1012 and cant find the
>>| soft settings to boost it.
>>|
>>| any suggestions?
>>|
>>| Thanx
>>_____
>>
>>This is a repeat of the reply I posted to the question "Need step by step
>>guide for overclocking!" posed just 6 threads back. It is good practice
>>to
>>read at least some of the recent posts to a newsgroup before posting.
>>
>>A whole lot of people who have no idea of how to overclock have been
>>successful in overclocking. If the motherboard is 'overclocking
>>friendly',
>>an Intel CPU is very easy to overclock. If the motherboard is NOT
>>'overclocking friendly' the task is much more difficult. If your
>>motherboard is 'overclocking friendly' the manual likely gives all the
>>information necessary to overclock, though the manual may have been
>>translanted back and forth among several languanges, and the information
>>may
>>be a bit confusing.
>>
>>#1. Raising the CPU voltage can destroy your CPU. NEVER raise the CPU
>>voltage more than 15% above the default voltage specified by Intel.
>>If you do raise it, do it in very small steps.
>>
>>#2. Raising the CPU clock speed will NOT damage your Intel CPU,
>>motherboard, memory, or anything else. If you raise the clock speed too
>>much, the system will either not run in a stable manner, or will fail to
>>boot. This is not a problem because either the BIOS will automatically
>>reset to default values or there will be directions in the manual on how
>>to
>>reset to default speeds.
>>
>>#3. In overclocking, make any changes in small steps, checking for proper
>>operation after each change.
>>
>>#4. Overclocking works best when the CPU temperature is kept as low as
>>possible.
>>
>>#5. Intel CPUs can ONLY be overclocked by raising the clock speed. Even
>>if
>>the multiplier can be set in the BIOS, changing this settings has NO
>>effect.
>>
>>#6. Some older motherboards may report an incorrect speed for CPUs that
>>have a higher speed than available when the BIOS was installed.
>>
>>#7. Intel CPUs have a quad-pumped memory bus; that means data is
>>transfered
>>four times for each clock cycle; for a 533 MHz Frontside Bus speed the
>>clock
>>speed is 133 MHz. That 133 MHz clock speed is multiplied by a factor
>>FIXED
>>and UNCHANGABLE inside the CPU to give the overall CPU clock speed. For
>>your 2660 MHz CPU, the multiplier is X 20 (133 MHz X 20 = 2660 MHZ.)
>>
>>#8. The rated speed of the installed memory can limit the overclock.
>>Memory can be overclocked, but it will eventualy reach a limit. Faster
>>memory can be installed, but the cost may not be worth it. The memory
>>clock
>>can be set to a lower ratio (with some motherboards) to allow higher clock
>>speeds, but there is a performance penalty.
>>
>>A reasonable goal for your CPU is 3.33 GHz. With luck and good cooling
>>over
>>3.5 GHz should be possible.
>>
>>How you overclock depends on the specifics of your system, how much
>>patience
>>you have, and much attention you pay to details.
>>
>>A general approach:
>>
>>* Download and install MotherBoard Monitor 5 (free) at
>> http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ . This will allow you to monitor and
>>record the CPU speeds, fan speeds, CPU temperature (and perhaps
>>motherboard,
>>memory, and other temperatures), and voltages. The power supply voltages
>>reported by MotherBoard Monitor 5 should meet the specifications of ATX12V
>>that can be found at
>>http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/ATX12V_PSDG_2_2_public_br2.pdf
>>
>>* Download and install SiSoft Sandra (free) at
>> http://www.sisoftware.net/ . This program is a collection of
>>information gathering applets for your system. It also has low level
>>tests
>>of performance, as well as stress tests (necessary to establish proper
>>operation when the CPU is operating at full capacity. I find version 2004
>>more useful than 2005, but 2004 is hard to find now.
>>
>>* Use MotherBoard Monitor 4 and SiSoft Sandra because the vast majority of
>>the people who use this forum also use these applications
>>
>>* Read the manual carefully.
>>
>>* Clean the heatsink fins, and fans of all dust, grease, and dirt.
>>
>>* Write down the settings in the BIOS.
>>
>>* Write down the temperature and voltage information from MotherBoard
>>Monitor 5.
>>
>>* Check the voltages reported by MotherBoard Monitor 5 for you system. If
>>any are outside the specifications this may affect the operation of your
>>system, especially if it is overclocked. Also check the total rated
>>output
>>of your power supply, if it is marginal, overclocking (since more power is
>>required) may also be marginal.
>>
>>* Steps for overclocking your Intel CPU (only after completing the above
>>recommendations):
>>
>> #0. The standard setup for PCI bus and AGP bus speeds are fractions
>> of
>>the clock speed. Make sure the PCI/AGP Bus speeds are instead locked at
>>33
>>MHz/66 MHz; if the PCI bus speed is more than 36 MHz corruption of data on
>>your hard drives can occur.
>>
>> #1. Increase the clock speed by 5%.
>>
>> #2. Reboot and check for proper operation.
>>
>> #3. If #2 is successful, repeat #1.
>>
>> #4. If #2 is not successful, raise the CPU core voltage by 0.05 volts
>>(in NO case raise this voltage to more than a total of 15%, doing so may
>>instantly destroy your CPU; when the core voltage reaches this limit go to
>>#6.)
>>
>> #5. Go to #2.
>>
>> #6. You have reached the limit of overclocking without changing other
>>factors which may include CPU cooling, System cooling, memory settings.
>>Installing memory capable of higher clock speeds may help. On the other
>>hand, some of these changes may be expensive, and not worth the money for
>>the possible performance increase.
>>
>>
>>* After reaching the highest speed, check operation under full CPU load
>>(use
>>SiSoft Sandra burn-in, other burn-in programs, or intense action 3D
>>accelerated first-person shooter games.) If the system is not stable
>>under
>>heavy load, try reducing the clock speed and/or CPU core voltage (higher
>>voltage means higher operating temperatures.)
>>
>>* Check the installation of the CPU heatsink; new heatsink compound may
>>help
>>CPU cooling. Find directions for using heatsink compound on the internet.
>>
>>* A better than stock heatsink/fan may aid overclocking.
>>
>>* Improved system cooling may aid overclocking.
>>
>>* Exotic cooling of the CPU to room temperature or below can
>>significantly
>>increase top speeds (or not, depending on the individual CPU speed, memory
>>quality, and motherboard.)
>>
>>WARNINGS!!!
>>* Increasing the CPU voltage above 15% over specifications is likely to
>>INSTANTLY destroy the CPU
>>* There is always a chance that when you start fooling around inside the
>>system case of your computer that you may cause damage (the butterfinger
>>factor.)
>>
>>You can find a LOT of additional information on the Internet, including
>>the
>>speeds that others overclockers have reached with your model CPU. One
>>question you must ask yourself is WHY you wish to overclock; I can think
>>of
>>three reasons:
>>
>> #1. Higher performance at little or no expense with your present
>>system.
>>
>> #2. Just because you can, and enjoy experimenting
>>
>> #3. Bragging rights - the highest possible speeds (which is going to
>>require a LOT more money.
>>
>>Don't let this long list intimidate you; just go along step by step.
>>
>>I am posting this on a system using
>> aBit TH7-II (Intel 850 chipset) motherboard
>> Pentium 4 2.6 GHz 400 MHz FSB Northwood CPU
>> PC800 RDRAM 640 MBytes
>> Stock CPU cooling
>> 450 Watt Antec Power Supply
>>With a room ambient temperature of ~ 26 C
>>
>>idle temperatures
>>CPU 40 C
>>motherboard 34 C
>>memory 31 C
>>
>>heavy load temperatures
>>CPU 51 C
>>motherboard 38 C
>>memory 33 C
>>
>>I selected a clock speed in the BIOS of 121 MHz, giving a CPU speed of 121
>>MHz X 26 = 3146 MHz. The CPU will overclock to a higher speed, but the
>>memory will not. To reach a higher CPU speed requires setting the memory
>>clock/CPU clock ratio to other than 1, which reduces performance. Since I
>>just want improved AND reliable performance and not the highest possible
>>clock speed, 3146 suits me fine, though with async setting 3.5 GHz is
>>easily
>>reached.
>>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>Phil Weldon
>>
>>"Johnathon Aaron Steel" <me@u.ca> wrote in message
>>news:01bci1d61jge3drc7vp227s776dd5ecn24@4ax.com...
>>> Trying to overclock this but doesnt post. I have changed the BUS FREQ.
>>> to all FS0 1-2 but wont post. Bios upgraded to 1012 and cant find the
>>> soft settings to boost it.
>>>
>>> any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>>
>>> JAS
>>
>
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