P4C800 Dlx vs. P4C800-E Dlx

[DOOM]

I wanted to verify, the only difference between the ASUS P4C800 Deluxe and the P4C800-E Deluxe is that the -E uses Intel's chipset LAN and the non-E uses a 3COM LAN chip on the PCI bus. Are there any other differences?

Thanks...

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P4C800-E Dlx, P4 3.0 @ 3.5MHz, 1024 Corsair @ 5550MB/s, 72GB WD 10,000rpm SATA as RAID-0 @ 92MB/s, Antec TruePower 480W, Zalman 7000 AlCu HSF, Arctic Silver III, FSB 233, CPUv 1.6, 3-4-3-7 PAT

 

[etp777]

P4C800 Dlx vs P4C800-E DLX
ICH5 vs ICH5R
3com 3c940 gigabit vs Intel 82547EI Gigabit (PCI vs CSA)
2 vs 4 SATA cables


Basically, while I like that 3com chipset, the CSA is a better interface, so in genearl, I'd say the p4c800e is better.

 

[DOOM]

Thanks for the reply.

I agree. The CSA interface will not contend with other devices on the PCI bus. However, I don't know if this feature is worth $23 extra, and I just wanted to make sure there were no other differences before I choose to buy the non-E.

Thanks!

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P4C800-E Dlx, P4 3.0 @ 3.5MHz, 1024 Corsair @ 5550MB/s, 72GB WD 10,000rpm SATA as RAID-0 @ 92MB/s, Antec TruePower 480W, Zalman 7000 AlCu HSF, Arctic Silver III, FSB 233, CPUv 1.6, 3-4-3-7 PAT

 

[Crashman]

The -E has ICH5R RAID as well as the Promise RAID.

Also there were several minor changes that Anandtech praised in their review of this board last fall.

All of these boards are crap in my opinion because of their inability to hold stable vCore at settings between 1.60v and 1.75v. In fact I ditched mine for a Soyo P4I875P Dragon2 v1.0 black label.

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[Xeon]

You know my revision 2 board doesnt seem to suffer from that. Maybe its time to revisit that issue Crash.

Xeon

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[Crashman]

Maybe it's time to revisit my review, my board was revision 2 as well. I've followed the issue a bit and it seems there are a few people who's boards have been better than average.

That would mean Asus was able to hand-pick boards, rather than specially-prepare them, for review sites. Fortunately for the readers, I had a retail board bought through standard sources, so I was the only reviewer who caught the problem. But there's a huge following on the issue and even a board mod to address it.

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[DOOM]

I can confirm Crashman's claims about unstable Vcore in the P4C800-E Deluxe. I bought three for work (all rev 2.0), and I actually took 1-second interval graphs of Vcore/temp/etc using Motherboard Monitor 5 and using Prime95 for load. The fastest I was able to get the board to go was 233FSB, 3-4-3-7-8 PAT, 1.6000 Vcore, and I observed a 0.05-0.10 V drop in the core voltage on load, with fluctuations of 0.01 V. Granted, it was more stable under load than at idle, but...

My attempts to run it faster either resulted in an unbootable system or failed Prime95 tests (they failed instantly after a steep drop in Vcore).

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P4C800-E Dlx, P4 3.0 @ 3.5MHz, 1024 Corsair @ 5550MB/s, 72GB WD 10,000rpm SATA as RAID-0 @ 92MB/s, Antec TruePower 480W, Zalman 7000 AlCu HSF, Arctic Silver III, FSB 233, CPUv 1.6, 3-4-3-7 PAT

 

[DOOM]

Hey Crashman,

So can you run down the black label for me? Pretend you're a salesman and I'm a customer... I'm considering this for a new gaming rig. Is it overkill/underkill? What are the strengths/weaknesses?

Thanks

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P4C800-E Dlx, P4 3.0 @ 3.5MHz, 1024 Corsair @ 5550MB/s, 72GB WD 10,000rpm SATA as RAID-0 @ 92MB/s, Antec TruePower 480W, Zalman 7000 AlCu HSF, Arctic Silver III, FSB 233, CPUv 1.6, 3-4-3-7 PAT

 

[Crashman]

The biggest drawbacks are that it can only support vCore up to 1.60v (higher settings were unstable on my Asus board anyway) and that it cost too much. But I got mine free. You can read the full review at Sysopt. If you can't find it on the main page, click Articles and scroll down.

I'd go with the Abit IS7 because it offers 99% of the performance at 50% of the price.

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[Xeon]

Dunno but my board doesnt suffer from that issue, dont know what more to say.

Xeon

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