paging file size doesn't change

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I am trying to increase my virtual memory and am doing so the way I am
supposed to by running "control sysdm.cpl" and going to the appropriate steps
and then restarting my computer. What is happening, though, is when I go back
to it my settings are saved in the "custom sized" places as the new values I
put in, but the "currently allocated" amount doesn't change at all. Shouldn't
the currently allocated amount change to the minimum I designate in the
custom allocation box?

Right now, the only way to get my graphics program to work faster is by
overloading my memory so that Windows will automatically increase the virtual
memory.

Why don't my custom settings change anything?
 
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ALR <ALR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am trying to increase my virtual memory and am doing so the way I am
>supposed to by running "control sysdm.cpl" and going to the appropriate steps
>and then restarting my computer. What is happening, though, is when I go back
>to it my settings are saved in the "custom sized" places as the new values I
>put in, but the "currently allocated" amount doesn't change at all. Shouldn't
>the currently allocated amount change to the minimum I designate in the
>custom allocation box?
>
>Right now, the only way to get my graphics program to work faster is by
>overloading my memory so that Windows will automatically increase the virtual
>memory.
>
>Why don't my custom settings change anything?

When you change the virtual memory settings are you clicking on the
"Set" button (twice) before clicking on OK?

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
 
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I have clicked on the set button a million times and it still doesn't change
my "currently allocated" amount. The "custom" allocation is saved and remains
the same but it has no bearing upon the amount of virtual mem that my system
is actually using.

"Ron Martell" wrote:

> ALR <ALR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I am trying to increase my virtual memory and am doing so the way I am
> >supposed to by running "control sysdm.cpl" and going to the appropriate steps
> >and then restarting my computer. What is happening, though, is when I go back
> >to it my settings are saved in the "custom sized" places as the new values I
> >put in, but the "currently allocated" amount doesn't change at all. Shouldn't
> >the currently allocated amount change to the minimum I designate in the
> >custom allocation box?
> >
> >Right now, the only way to get my graphics program to work faster is by
> >overloading my memory so that Windows will automatically increase the virtual
> >memory.
> >
> >Why don't my custom settings change anything?
>
> When you change the virtual memory settings are you clicking on the
> "Set" button (twice) before clicking on OK?
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> --
> Microsoft MVP
> On-Line Help Computer Service
> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
> http://aumha.org/alex.htm
>
 
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ALR,

Did you select Custom size? and put in a decent minimum amount, and then
for the maximum set a number way high beyond your expected usage?

--
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User

--
"ALR" wrote
>I have clicked on the set button a million times and it still doesn't
>change
> my "currently allocated" amount. The "custom" allocation is saved and
> remains
> the same but it has no bearing upon the amount of virtual mem that my
> system
> is actually using.
>
> "Ron Martell" wrote:
>
>> ALR <ALR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I am trying to increase my virtual memory and am doing so the way I am
>> >supposed to by running "control sysdm.cpl" and going to the appropriate
>> >steps
>> >and then restarting my computer. What is happening, though, is when I go
>> >back
>> >to it my settings are saved in the "custom sized" places as the new
>> >values I
>> >put in, but the "currently allocated" amount doesn't change at all.
>> >Shouldn't
>> >the currently allocated amount change to the minimum I designate in the
>> >custom allocation box?
>> >
>> >Right now, the only way to get my graphics program to work faster is by
>> >overloading my memory so that Windows will automatically increase the
>> >virtual
>> >memory.
>> >
>> >Why don't my custom settings change anything?
>>
>> When you change the virtual memory settings are you clicking on the
>> "Set" button (twice) before clicking on OK?
>>
>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
>> --
>> Microsoft MVP
>> On-Line Help Computer Service
>> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>>
>> In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
>> http://aumha.org/alex.htm
>>
 
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I selected custom size and it is still selected when I go back into the
window. In the window I have "custom size" selected and both max and min
numbers are set to 4095 [the maximum allowed amount]. Then I pressed "set" a
number of times. Then I restarted my computer.

Now in the dialogue it has "custom size" selected and the numbers that I
entered are there. However in the "Total paging file size for all drives"
these numbers are listed:

"Minimm allowed: 2MB"
"Recommended: 669MB"
"Currently allocated: 670MB"

Additionally when I check the Virtual Memory section of the "Performance
Options" window, it also says that the "total paging file size for all
drives" is 670.

Again, it seems that my changes made to the "custom" page file size have not
done anything.

"Maurice N ~ MVP" wrote:

> ALR,
>
> Did you select Custom size? and put in a decent minimum amount, and then
> for the maximum set a number way high beyond your expected usage?
>
> --
> Maurice N
> MVP Windows - Shell / User
>
> --
> "ALR" wrote
> >I have clicked on the set button a million times and it still doesn't
> >change
> > my "currently allocated" amount. The "custom" allocation is saved and
> > remains
> > the same but it has no bearing upon the amount of virtual mem that my
> > system
> > is actually using.
> >
> > "Ron Martell" wrote:
> >
> >> ALR <ALR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I am trying to increase my virtual memory and am doing so the way I am
> >> >supposed to by running "control sysdm.cpl" and going to the appropriate
> >> >steps
> >> >and then restarting my computer. What is happening, though, is when I go
> >> >back
> >> >to it my settings are saved in the "custom sized" places as the new
> >> >values I
> >> >put in, but the "currently allocated" amount doesn't change at all.
> >> >Shouldn't
> >> >the currently allocated amount change to the minimum I designate in the
> >> >custom allocation box?
> >> >
> >> >Right now, the only way to get my graphics program to work faster is by
> >> >overloading my memory so that Windows will automatically increase the
> >> >virtual
> >> >memory.
> >> >
> >> >Why don't my custom settings change anything?
> >>
> >> When you change the virtual memory settings are you clicking on the
> >> "Set" button (twice) before clicking on OK?
> >>
> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> >> --
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> On-Line Help Computer Service
> >> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
> >>
> >> In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
> >> http://aumha.org/alex.htm
> >>
>
>
>
 
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You need to determine your typical paging file size "usage", and set that
(plus a bit more) as the minimum size.
Don't put the min & max at same value.

The absolute best article on this area is "Virtual Memory in Windows XP" by
Alex Nichol.
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

Digest/review that article. It will help you in your decision to modify the
Pagefile size.

And remember that you have to logoff & reboot your system, after you tweak
these settings.

Also, the "currently allocated" is strictly what is allocated at that point
in time (eg, what is assigned at that instant). It does not mean the
maximum allowed.
--
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User


In memory of Alex Nichol.

--

"ALR" wrote
>I selected custom size and it is still selected when I go back into the
> window. In the window I have "custom size" selected and both max and min
> numbers are set to 4095 [the maximum allowed amount]. Then I pressed "set"
> a
> number of times. Then I restarted my computer.
>
> Now in the dialogue it has "custom size" selected and the numbers that I
> entered are there. However in the "Total paging file size for all drives"
> these numbers are listed:
>
> "Minimm allowed: 2MB"
> "Recommended: 669MB"
> "Currently allocated: 670MB"
>
> Additionally when I check the Virtual Memory section of the "Performance
> Options" window, it also says that the "total paging file size for all
> drives" is 670.
>
> Again, it seems that my changes made to the "custom" page file size have
> not
> done anything.
>
> "Maurice N ~ MVP" wrote:
>
>> ALR,
>>
>> Did you select Custom size? and put in a decent minimum amount, and then
>> for the maximum set a number way high beyond your expected usage?
>>
>> --
>> Maurice N
>> MVP Windows - Shell / User
>>
>> --
>> "ALR" wrote
>> >I have clicked on the set button a million times and it still doesn't
>> >change
>> > my "currently allocated" amount. The "custom" allocation is saved and
>> > remains
>> > the same but it has no bearing upon the amount of virtual mem that my
>> > system
>> > is actually using.
>> >
>> > "Ron Martell" wrote:
>> >
>> >> ALR <ALR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I am trying to increase my virtual memory and am doing so the way I
>> >> >am
>> >> >supposed to by running "control sysdm.cpl" and going to the
>> >> >appropriate
>> >> >steps
>> >> >and then restarting my computer. What is happening, though, is when I
>> >> >go
>> >> >back
>> >> >to it my settings are saved in the "custom sized" places as the new
>> >> >values I
>> >> >put in, but the "currently allocated" amount doesn't change at all.
>> >> >Shouldn't
>> >> >the currently allocated amount change to the minimum I designate in
>> >> >the
>> >> >custom allocation box?
>> >> >
>> >> >Right now, the only way to get my graphics program to work faster is
>> >> >by
>> >> >overloading my memory so that Windows will automatically increase the
>> >> >virtual
>> >> >memory.
>> >> >
>> >> >Why don't my custom settings change anything?
>> >>
>> >> When you change the virtual memory settings are you clicking on the
>> >> "Set" button (twice) before clicking on OK?
>> >>
>> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
>> >> --
>> >> Microsoft MVP
>> >> On-Line Help Computer Service
>> >> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>> >>
>> >> In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
>> >> http://aumha.org/alex.htm
 
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"Maurice N ~ MVP" <maurice@mvps.org> wrote:

>You need to determine your typical paging file size "usage", and set that
>(plus a bit more) as the minimum size.
>Don't put the min & max at same value.
>
Wrong! A fixed size will prevent a fragmented file, performance will
be better. In addition if you have two hard drives put the page file
on the second drive.

Second do not quote the whole message you are replying to. Some of us
still have dial up connections and improper posting cost us time and
money.
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A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
 
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no_spam@no_where.invalid wrote:

>"Maurice N ~ MVP" <maurice@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>You need to determine your typical paging file size "usage", and set that
>>(plus a bit more) as the minimum size.
>>Don't put the min & max at same value.
>>
>Wrong! A fixed size will prevent a fragmented file, performance will
>be better. In addition if you have two hard drives put the page file
>on the second drive.

Page file fragmentation as a performance issue is right up there with
Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy - lots of hype but very
little if any substance.

The only scenario where page file fragmentation would impact
performance is when Windows is loading back previously paged out
memory content, and the pages now being loaded back in would have been
in contiguous clusters in the page file were it not for the
fragmentation. The odds of that happening are so close to zero that
it can be disregarded.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
 
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> Second do not quote the whole message you are replying to. Some of us still have dial up connections and improper posting cost us time and money.

Well in that case get yourself a broadband conection which will work out cheaper in the long run and increase your pleasure to browse the web in general. Or your could walk down your neighborhood and see if they have unsecured wireless connection which you can use by sitting outside their property. Where there is a will there is a way!!! Necessity is the mother of inventions!!

PS: I wanted to go to India but my job went instead so I am here to wind people up!! Those half naked indian fakirs are doing my job now!!!


no_spam@no_where.invalid wrote:
>
> "Maurice N ~ MVP" <maurice@mvps.org> wrote:
>
> >You need to determine your typical paging file size "usage", and set that
> >(plus a bit more) as the minimum size.
> >Don't put the min & max at same value.
> >
> Wrong! A fixed size will prevent a fragmented file, performance will
> be better. In addition if you have two hard drives put the page file
> on the second drive.
>
> Second do not quote the whole message you are replying to. Some of us
> still have dial up connections and improper posting cost us time and
> money.
> --
> A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
> Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
 
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Does anyone actually have an answer to my question. Making the max and min
sizes different doesn't help anything. My guess is that there is a set value
in the registry that limits me from actually changing the size of the paging
file and that is why my settings remain but it doesn't actually do anything.

I do not know anything about the registry, so I am not going to go playing
with settings unless someone who knows what they are talking about answers
the question I originally asked.

thank you,