Paladin switching deities

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David Klassen wrote:
> Fred wrote:
> > I am currently running an adventure for 2 paladins. They're fresh
out
> of
> > paladin school (currently 2nd level) and doing a term of service
for
> the
> > temple of Pelor.
>
> So far, OK.
>
> > The problem? One of the PCs is far more suited to being a paladin
of
> > Heironeous. He's into jousting, wants to be a cavalier, etc.
> Basically,
>
> No, the problem is that paladins are NOT paladins "of"
> any particular god. Their powers stem from their faith
> in the philosophy of LG itself. Therefore, there is no
> hangup whatsoever for a paladin changing gods, by the
> rules as they are written.

And, as we all know, the rules are chiseled in stone, and *MUST* be
followed. ;-p Seriously, what he says makes sense, anyway, so it's
worth following.


Ralph Glatt

Member, Old Farts Club
 
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Stephenls wrote:
> Mark Blunden wrote:
>
>> No way would someone who's only serving with Pelor's priesthood to
>> repay a debt have the depth of faith required to become a
>> full-fledged Paladin. And no way would someone who did have that
>> degree of faith suddenly jump ship to Heironeous simply because it
>> suited his personality better.
>
>> The only way to play this out with any realism is as a major crisis
>> of faith for the character - i.e. he does something due to his
>> personal beliefs that seriously goes against his Paladin code of
>> conduct with Pelor (but wouldn't have violated his oath if he'd been
>> with Heironeous), gets stripped of his powers, and then spends some
>> time finding his new faith, atoning for his previous breach of
>> trust, and performing some great deed before being accepted as a
>> Paladin by Heironeous.
>
> I believe there is some precedent for the idea that paladinships
> occasionally choose people, and not the other way 'round. I'd say
> that the character in question was always destined to be a paladin,
> but not a paladin of the order he signed up for. Once this is
> realized, some sort of lawful transfer of alliance should be
> possible, unless the local churches of Pelor and Heironeous are
> feuding. He'll probably end up owing the church of Pelor something
> in return for his schooling, but being a PC, I'm sure he'll manage to
> save the world a few times, so it should balance out.

Yes, that could work.

--
Mark.
 
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Mark Blunden wrote:
>
> Senator Blutarsky wrote:
> > Mark Blunden wrote:
>
> >> if you
> >> *do* choose to be a paladin of a particular faith, you are bound to
> >> that faith's beliefs by your own lawful nature,
> >
> > Bah.
>
> What, you think that a Paladin trained by and dedicated to a particular
> religion makes absolutely no vows or commitments to follow the tenets of
> that religion?

No, I just understand the alignment rules.

-Bluto
 
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David Klassen <klassen@rowan.edu> wrote:
> You are free to use rule-0 to further restrict your
> paladins in any way you wish.
>
> However, by the rules, this is *not* setting dependent ....

Everything is ultimately setting-dependent. That's the whole point of
rule zero, and that's why it's the first rule in the book.
--
Bradd W. Szonye
http://www.szonye.com/bradd
 
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Time to step up the meds; I could have sworn Bradd W. Szonye just
said...

> Everything is ultimately setting-dependent. That's the whole point of
> rule zero, and that's why it's the first rule in the book.

Zeroth.
 
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Jeff Heikkinen <no.way@jose.org> wrote:
> Time to step up the meds; I could have sworn Bradd W. Szonye just
> said...
>
>> Everything is ultimately setting-dependent. That's the whole point of
>> rule zero, and that's why it's the first rule in the book.
>
> Zeroth.

Thbbpt.
--
Bradd W. Szonye
http://www.szonye.com/bradd
 
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Why must it be a major issue? Remember that Paladins can also be
servants of good/righteousness, and not a specific deity, so presumably
he would not lose his powers if he experienced a personal conversion.

How the Pelorians feel about it is another matter. And if any followers
of Heironeus initially doubt his conviction (having left 1 faith
already).

As someone else already suggested, the deities may simply trade him off
anyway, being allies.
 
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CSWright wrote:

> As someone else already suggested, the deities may simply trade him off
> anyway, being allies.

Yeah, but it's like when you borrow money from a loan shark. If you
don't pay up fast enough, they sell your debt to someone stricter.

Be careful when switching Deities... if the new one doesn't get enough
Praise and Hosanahs, it may sell you off to someone meaner!
 
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Good point, David. Can you imagine then being traded to Ehlonna?
"You're still a Paladin of course, but there's a lot more treeplanting
involved." <shudder>