News Palit and Gainward release 'Nvidia SFF-ready' Infinity 3 and Python 3 Nvidia RTX 4000 series GPUs

[Admin]

Both Palit Group-owned brands Palit and Gainward have released new RTX 40 series graphics cards to comply with Nvidia's SFF-ready standard, while both brands use the same design with triple fan cooling.

Palit and Gainward release 'Nvidia SFF-ready' Infinity 3 and Python 3 Nvidia RTX 4000 series GPUs : Read more

 

[jlake3]

While having a smaller profile than a conventional variant is appreciated, users question the obfuscation of what 'SFF friendly' should be and if Nvidia explored this category before setting the dimension standard and passing it on to respective AIC partners and PC case makers.

I've got an 8 year old full-ATX sized case (a Supermicro S5), and it barely fits cards at the upper bound of Nvidia's "SFF-ready" definition with the 2.5" drive cage installed. My Haswell-Era ITX case that managed to take a GTX 690 back in the day is a no-go on length and width (151mm would technically fit, but there would be no room for power connections out that side), and the height leaves very little room to breathe.

I'd love to see some properly small GPUs, but this new definition/certification/whatever feels like it's just an Nvidia marketing exercise so AIB partners can give themselves another nice sounding label to slap on the box.

 

[Notton]

IMO, It's not SFF, if it doesn't fit in a 20in (preferably 18in or 16in) suitcase.
That means the enclosure is <20L in volume.
My Silverstone SG13 is 12L in volume and only fits 267mm length cards, but it was also designed before the sandwich style layout was invented.

 

[Omm3nator]

Is this what NVIDIA and partners consider Small Form Factor (SFF)? We don't agree with this new definition/specification for SFF. We propose a new standard for Mini-ITX enclosures - Mini Form Factor (MFF) GPUs. Examples include: PNY RTX A1000 8GB (single-slot half-height), RTX A2000 6GB/12GB and RTX 4000 Ada SFF 20GB (dual-slot half-height). These GPUs are very efficent <75 W (PCIe slot powered).

The RTX A2000 12GB performs very well in our testing. Gaming, 3D CAD with FEA/CFD simulations (SOLIDWORKS), and local AI LLMs (Llama 3.1 8B) are all possible.

Our engineering team is designing a MFF enclosure/case based around GaN PSUs. Stay tuned!

 

[TCA_ChinChin]

I've got an 8 year old full-ATX sized case (a Supermicro S5), and it barely fits cards at the upper bound of Nvidia's "SFF-ready" definition with the 2.5" drive cage installed. My Haswell-Era ITX case that managed to take a GTX 690 back in the day is a no-go on length and width (151mm would technically fit, but there would be no room for power connections out that side), and the height leaves very little room to breathe.

I'd love to see some properly small GPUs, but this new definition/certification/whatever feels like it's just an Nvidia marketing exercise so AIB partners can give themselves another nice sounding label to slap on the box.

Lol, these "SFF-ready" sizes would be considered ludicrously large like 4-5 years ago. I completely agree this is just an excuse for AIBs to design coolers similar to those they did maybe 4-5 years ago, use less materials, but charge even more for the "SFF-read" label. A true "SFF-ready" card would be something around the size of their professional Quadro RTX cards that have coolers that fit COMPLETELY within 2 PCIe slots without being laughably tall or long.

 

[Guardians Bane]

I've got an 8 year old full-ATX sized case (a Supermicro S5), and it barely fits cards at the upper bound of Nvidia's "SFF-ready" definition with the 2.5" drive cage installed. My Haswell-Era ITX case that managed to take a GTX 690 back in the day is a no-go on length and width (151mm would technically fit, but there would be no room for power connections out that side), and the height leaves very little room to breathe.

I'd love to see some properly small GPUs, but this new definition/certification/whatever feels like it's just an Nvidia marketing exercise so AIB partners can give themselves another nice sounding label to slap on the box.

Right! I'm sourcing components for a mITX build and most "SFF Ready" GPUs still do not fit the smaller ones. I'm specifically looking for a 4070ti class that will fit in ThermalTake The Tower (prob 200, the 100 is almost APU only territory?

 

[Penzi]

Is this what NVIDIA and partners consider Small Form Factor (SFF)? We don't agree with this new definition/specification for SFF. We propose a new standard for Mini-ITX enclosures - Mini Form Factor (MFF) GPUs. Examples include: PNY RTX A1000 8GB (single-slot half-height), RTX A2000 6GB/12GB and RTX 4000 Ada SFF 20GB (dual-slot half-height). These GPUs are very efficent <75 W (PCIe slot powered).

The RTX A2000 12GB performs very well in our testing. Gaming, 3D CAD with FEA/CFD simulations (SOLIDWORKS), and local AI LLMs (Llama 3.1 8B) are all possible.

Our engineering team is designing a MFF enclosure/case based around GaN PSUs. Stay tuned!

Looking forward to seeing your vision of a mini PC

 

[Notton]

Right! I'm sourcing components for a mITX build and most "SFF Ready" GPUs still do not fit the smaller ones. I'm specifically looking for a 4070ti class that will fit in ThermalTake The Tower (prob 200, the 100 is almost APU only territory?

If you check the specs page, it says 330mm and is "SFF Ready"
https://www.thermaltake.com/the-tower-100-turquoise-mini-chassis.html
200 mini is 280mm or 380mm
https://www.thermaltake.com/the-tower-200-bubble-pink-mini-chassis.html

For 4070Ti, MSI Ventus

 

[Guardians Bane]

If you check the specs page, it says 330mm and is "SFF Ready"
https://www.thermaltake.com/the-tower-100-turquoise-mini-chassis.html
200 mini is 280mm or 380mm
https://www.thermaltake.com/the-tower-200-bubble-pink-mini-chassis.html

For 4070Ti, MSI Ventus

Yeah, I guess I could have done the research myself. Not to hard to do. But I do like interacting with people and asking questions. It gets people talking.

Thanks for the links and suggestion!

Much appreciated