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Pascal and 4K
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photonboy
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About 4K.
So many people are IMO brainwashed about 4K thinking the best experience is at 4K.
Some points:
1) 3840x2160 rarely looks better than 2560x1440 but there's a big performance cost difference.
2) 4K is currently limited to 60Hz (60FPS)
3) GSYNC monitors that go up to 144Hz like the Acer Predator (2560x1440, IPS, 4ms) are the best way to go right now.
Summary:
I wouldn't worry so much about Pascal, those benchmarks will come. What you should do instead is understand what makes the best GAMING EXPERIENCE and currently that is something like the Acer Predator.
As for GPU, I think a GTX980Ti is more than enough for an awesome experience for years to come. Sure, demanding games will come up but playing on a GSYNC monitor means a smooth experience at lower frame rates. 1440p at 50FPS should not be too hard to hit... worst case scenario you drop a couple settings.
Here's a review to help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LTHr96NueA
Other:
4K HDTV's are a different story. Changing resolution for games is problematic, and input lag may be an issue. Also no asynchronous HDTV's yet, and finally unless you're sitting really close it won't look much different from 1080p gaming... and if you ARE sitting close enough for that then a lot of video is going to look like crap (the main problem with 4K HDTV really is that if you sit close enough to appreciate it for the limited content that benefits then everything else looks WORSE.)
So many people are IMO brainwashed about 4K thinking the best experience is at 4K.
Some points:
1) 3840x2160 rarely looks better than 2560x1440 but there's a big performance cost difference.
2) 4K is currently limited to 60Hz (60FPS)
3) GSYNC monitors that go up to 144Hz like the Acer Predator (2560x1440, IPS, 4ms) are the best way to go right now.
Summary:
I wouldn't worry so much about Pascal, those benchmarks will come. What you should do instead is understand what makes the best GAMING EXPERIENCE and currently that is something like the Acer Predator.
As for GPU, I think a GTX980Ti is more than enough for an awesome experience for years to come. Sure, demanding games will come up but playing on a GSYNC monitor means a smooth experience at lower frame rates. 1440p at 50FPS should not be too hard to hit... worst case scenario you drop a couple settings.
Here's a review to help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LTHr96NueA
Other:
4K HDTV's are a different story. Changing resolution for games is problematic, and input lag may be an issue. Also no asynchronous HDTV's yet, and finally unless you're sitting really close it won't look much different from 1080p gaming... and if you ARE sitting close enough for that then a lot of video is going to look like crap (the main problem with 4K HDTV really is that if you sit close enough to appreciate it for the limited content that benefits then everything else looks WORSE.)
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Look at these 4k benchmarks comparing the 780 ti and the 980 ti. I suspect it will be a similar improvement from 980 ti to the Pascal equivelent.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1441?vs=1496
Mousemonkey
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renz496
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geforce and quadro version of Pascal will definitely going to use PCI-E interface. no motherboard maker will support interface that will supported by only one vendor. even if they do it we might only see them on much pricier board like exclusive to intel Zx7 chipset (like SLI certification). nvlink was made to address PCI-E weakness in HPC setup. but in regular PC there is no such issue or program (like games) was design to avoid the weakness to begin with.
renz496
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ah did you talk about this?:
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/nvidia-pascal-architectures-nvlink-to-enable-8-way-multi-gpu-capability/
just because nvidia going to use NVlink it doesn't they will ditch PCI-E interface entirely. NVlink brings in two important things:
1) improving CPU-to-GPU communication.
2) improving GPU-to-GPU communication.
AFAIK for no.1 nvidia only made NVLink for nvidia gpu and IBM Power CPU. so far i haven't heard about nvidia making their NVLink interconnect to be compatible with x86 or ARM based CPU. so for regular PC nvidia will still going to rely with PCI-E interface for the gpu to communicate with CPU. BUT they can improve their SLI technology with NVlink. nvidia most likely want to do this but we will not be sure until more info about Pascal comes out.
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/nvidia-pascal-architectures-nvlink-to-enable-8-way-multi-gpu-capability/
just because nvidia going to use NVlink it doesn't they will ditch PCI-E interface entirely. NVlink brings in two important things:
1) improving CPU-to-GPU communication.
2) improving GPU-to-GPU communication.
AFAIK for no.1 nvidia only made NVLink for nvidia gpu and IBM Power CPU. so far i haven't heard about nvidia making their NVLink interconnect to be compatible with x86 or ARM based CPU. so for regular PC nvidia will still going to rely with PCI-E interface for the gpu to communicate with CPU. BUT they can improve their SLI technology with NVlink. nvidia most likely want to do this but we will not be sure until more info about Pascal comes out.
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