Patent Application Hints MSFT is Working on Own MagSafe

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bison88

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[citation][nom]john_4[/nom]Yet another copy of Apple by MS.[/citation]


You don't hear PC users saying, "Yet another copy of MS's idea by Apple" when Apple releases a product similar to one of Microsoft's ( i.e. the iPad vs the Tablet PC 10 years ago). Don't see why Apple fanboys find a reason to constantly flick there nose at everything Microsoft does.
 
[citation][nom]bison88[/nom]You don't hear PC users saying, "Yet another copy of MS's idea by Apple" when Apple releases a product similar to one of Microsoft's ( i.e. the iPad vs the Tablet PC 10 years ago). Don't see why Apple fanboys find a reason to constantly flick there nose at everything Microsoft does.[/citation]
Hey Bison, pay no mind to the benighted comment.. you have to understand that they only understand stuff from their cult. They don't know that there are other things in their world besides Apple products.
 
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[citation][nom]bison88[/nom]You don't hear PC users saying, "Yet another copy of MS's idea by Apple" when Apple releases a product similar to one of Microsoft's ( i.e. the iPad vs the Tablet PC 10 years ago).[/citation]
Not to dispute the trollishness of the original comment, but Apple's Newton came out nearly 10 years before that . . .

[citation]Don't see why Apple fanboys find a reason to constantly flick there nose at everything Microsoft does.[/citation]
For much the same reason Windows fanboys find reasons to constantly sneer at everything Apple does. Some people just won't grow up. While the rest of us who are fanboys of all good technology regardless of the logo on it just ignore it and move on.

(typing this on my Macbook, but the Windows installs in this room outnumber OS X 3:1)
 

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Some people just won't grow up.
The problem is that Apple fanboys are always bringing this stuff up and starting the argument. If someone talks about their PC to an Apple fan 90% of the time the Apple fan will start to talk about how they believe Apple is superior. The opposite however rarely takes place. One thing I don't understand is why Microsoft is doing this in the first place. I thought they didn't desire to make hardware. Every time Microsoft releases hardware I feel like ripping my hair out. Their job should always be software and every time they release something hardware-based it's always trash.
 

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So, getting back to the topic of the article and not the fanboy childish arguing... This is an interesting idea that could theoretically make for smaller connectors. I imagine there is a bit of working to do to keep the magnets from interfering with data transmissions. The biggest problem would be commercialization. We already see the trouble of Thunderbolt, you have to imagine that this would compete with Thunderbolt and USB. It's interesting, but I don't know that we need another connection thrown out there.
 

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Magsafe is a good idea, no matter who originated it. Seems dumb that you'd have to have an Apple laptop to get it. I hope MS gets the patent and licenses its to PC makers. i like Apple fine but their stuff is expensive.
 

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[citation][nom]john_4[/nom]Yet another copy of Apple by MS.[/citation]
Even though the magsafe was the first magnetically attached connector on computers, It wasn't the first time that this technology was used. And this represents what is wrong with the patent system. Apple creates magsafe and is able to patent it because is directed towards computers. Now Microsoft can also apply a patent of his own because besides power is also transmits data. The problem is that only the magnetically attached connector should receive a patent irrelevant if it's used for power, data or whatever. Perhaps I should also apply a patent for a magnetically attached connector that transmits only data.
 

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Let's see if I can shed some light on the whole patent issue as it stands;
There are roughly three types of patents one can apply for - utility, design, and plant. Plant is relatively special, it has to do with breeding new or unique plants, like a new rose/lily hybrid or something. Utility is what most people tend to think of, which is a completely new invention (a completely new item or way of doing something). The bulk of patents, however, and the bulk of these lawsuits, tend to be design patents. These are patents based on the implementation of an idea, rather than the idea itself (the various types of computer cases instead of the idea of a computer case itself). So, in this case, the use of a magnet as a connector was a utility patent back from whoever and whenever the idea was first patented. This patent here, and similarly the Apple one, are design patents. This is a legitimately patenable idea, IMO. The same way PCI, FireWire, USB, eSata, Thunderbolt, are all patented and must be licensed for use, it makes sense for somethng like this to patented. It is neither simple, obvious, or ubiquitous.
 

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How is it moving into Apple territory? If it were the world first magnetic power interface then sure, now its not. This can only be upsetting for a deluded Apple fan who believes everything "their" company puts out is their innovation.
 

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[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]Magsafe is a good idea, no matter who originated it. Seems dumb that you'd have to have an Apple laptop to get it. I hope MS gets the patent and licenses its to PC makers. i like Apple fine but their stuff is expensive.[/citation]
It is annoying that Apple doesn't license it's magsafe connector to anyone, including third party manufacturers that build power bricks for Apple computers. This is why no one else makes a computer with one.
 

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[citation][nom]colitis[/nom]Not to dispute the trollishness of the original comment, but Apple's Newton came out nearly 10 years before that . . .[/citation]
Not to split hairs, but the Netwon wasn't a tablet, it was a PDA
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And just to push the point even more, it wasn't even the first PDA, that honour falls to Psion Organiser
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This is the part where Apple fans now say that the PDA was actually invented by Apple because the term PDA was first used by John Sculley in 1992, even though devices by many companies had already existed for years
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Apple have a good thing going, they make some pretty sweet products, but credit where it is due to the people that came before them that did the actual inventing, making it white, thin and having a letter "i" at the beginning is not innovation.
 
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That actually looks like the connector that joins the newly announced Microsoft Surface to its keyboard/cover
 
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