[SOLVED] PC build 900$-1000$

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Hi,
I am looking for a desktop that fits with the following requirements:
i need it for Daily tasks and some autocad drawings also for normal 3ds max use.

Budget Range: 900-1000$

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Daily tasks, surfing the internet, 3ds max, autocad drawings.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Nope.


Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: none.

 

logainofhades

Titan
Moderator
Autocad is apparently very single threaded performance dependent. An overclockable i5 8600k might make better sense here. Powercolor is hit and miss, on graphics card quality, so I tend to avoid them.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler ($37.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Walmart)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill - NAUTILUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $992.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 15:32 EST-0500
 

logainofhades

Titan
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB GT OCV1 Video Card ($259.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus - VS247H-P 23.6" 1920x1080 Monitor ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $994.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 13:58 EST-0500
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg Business)
Motherboard: MSI - H370M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.90 @ OutletPC)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake - View 22 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.88 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - G257HL BMIDX 25.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $987.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 13:54 EST-0500

AutoCad loves Intel for better single core
 

logainofhades

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A bit over budget, due to Mail in Rebates, but yes, you are probably right about the Intel side. I do not know about his particular programs, but Cad softwares that I am remotely familiar with prefer Nvidia though. Though it comes with a cooler, the 8700's stock cooler is also junk.
 
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yes, budget doesn't include the monitor .
 
updated without monitor:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg Business)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler ($37.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - H370M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.90 @ OutletPC)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($72.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake - View 22 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.16 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $928.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 14:53 EST-0500
 
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Please give me your recommendation on building the desktop.
 

logainofhades

Titan
Moderator
Autocad is apparently very single threaded performance dependent. An overclockable i5 8600k might make better sense here. Powercolor is hit and miss, on graphics card quality, so I tend to avoid them.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler ($37.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Walmart)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill - NAUTILUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $992.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 15:32 EST-0500
 

logainofhades

Titan
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Agree on quadro could be better option, but not with that terrible power supply. Also, if you remove mail in rebates, the wiggle room is less than $10. 120gb SSD is about useless. It will fill up too fast. 32gb ram, not necessary.



 

LordVile

Admirable
Why wouldn’t you do the rebates? Sorry I don’t understand them we don’t have them here.

120GB for OS and essential programs only. A 256GB isn’t much more so eh.

The PSU is fine the GPU doesn’t need external power and the power draw is under 200W. So maybe 300W at load.

Don’t know what CAD they’re doing you could easily eat through 16GB. Safe Vs sorry. It’s always something they can change easily.
 

logainofhades

Titan
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Rebates are not a guarantee, so I never include them. You do not want to run an SSD near capacity, so 120gb is not a good idea. My work system has a 250gb ssd, and it is a little over half full, even excluding documents and downloads. Corsair VS series are not fine. They are junk. Autocad, to my knowledge isn't as resource demanding as say Solidworks, looking at system requirements. 4gb vs 16gb for ram.
 

LordVile

Admirable
To be fair you’re using stats from a P6000. With a lesser GPU (that doesn’t cost 3-6x tje bidget) the numbers will be dramatically different.

A 120GB SSD is fine for an OS and a few programs it won’t be near full. Higher is better but for the work they’re doing it’s fine.

Until you want to open chrome and have a decent amount of tabs going and another program that you’re doing something on then you’re running into 16GBs. Also where you wished you had 8 cores instead of 4.

The VS PSU is fine don’t be snobby. I’d personally go for a gold model 650W+ put it’ll do. It won’t blow up, it won’t fry anything.
 

logainofhades

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My work PC only has Windows and a few programs needed for what I do, pre-installed by our IT department. My 250gb drive is over half full, even after removing the extra files that I have saved on there. My software is also CAD based, Zeiss Calypso.

Nobody here is suggesting a 4 core. Every single system suggested has been a 6 core. I have bunch of chrome tabs open, my cad software, excel spreadsheets, PDF's of blueprints, and the various programs that IT has installed running all the time, and I do just fine with 16gb. Calypso has higher system requirements than Autocad. Also, for reference, my work PC has an i7 6700 in it.

It is not being snobby. You do not cut corners on PSU quality. A CX650m is a far better PSU and not an expensive unit. Even older Seasonic 620w would be far better than a VS.
 

LordVile

Admirable
Just because it is CAD software and has lower specs doesn’t mean it uses things the same. I’ve used molecular modelling software which has very low system requirements but will eat all the RAM and threads it can take.

People are suggesting the 6 core because it is cheaper than intels 4 core offerings and has more features on the B boards than intel on its B boards.

It’s not cutting corners. Literally any 80+ PSU is fine if you’re not pushing it hard and you’re not overclocking. I wouldn’t buy a 500W PSU if using a GPU that was 200W because that’s daft. Here’s my question. What benefits would you get with a “better” PSU in this scenario? Literally nothing.
 

Barty1884

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:heink: Stability, an expectation of 7-10 years of reliable use..... and it won't burn down your house* ?
Considering at $40, it's not even particularly cheap, there's just no point in recommending the VS units as there are quality units available at those pricepoints.

*Ok, the VS lineup aren't quite housefire units, but they're still not great.
 

logainofhades

Titan
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I should also add that I have access to VM, with solidworks, and it only has 16gb ram dedicated to it. The intel builds were literally all 6 core. 8600k is a 6 core. The 8700 is a 6 core. Benefits of a better PSU, how about not dying prematurely because they use inferior components? Even the CX550m would be ok, and far better. You get better cable management, as it is semi-modular, and a better warranty, for $20. Also improved airflow due to less cable clutter, so less heat.

 

bignastyid

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Wow that is just so wrong. 80 plus is not a quality or reliability rating. It's simply an efficiency rating and buying/recommending a PSU solely based on this rating is folly and downright bad advice.
Example of a horrible PSU that is 80plus rated
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XZMFf7/coolmax-power-supply-zx500

What you get by buying better PSU is reliability/peace of mind.
 

LordVile

Admirable
Any reviews of the PSU showing it being horrible? Also it looks shady as hell you want your money taken off you if you buy that.

80+ generally means they must have used generally acceptable components or else the efficiency ratings would not be met, especially now they’ve tightened it up.
 

bignastyid

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No review need. The specs say all that is need to determine it's junk. To most the brand name is the giveaway.


But, it's 80 plus rated so by your own words, "Literally any 80+ PSU is fine if you’re not pushing it hard and you’re not overclocking", it should fine right.




It doesn't mean that at all. You can hit efficiency ratings and still have power regulation and/or ripple issues aswell as cheap caps that will fail after a year. 80 plus tests none of those.
 

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