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Hi, im trying to build a computer and my budget is around £700-£1000

what parts should i get, if you could comment a pc build for around this price it would be super helpful.

The only requirements is that i want to get a solid 60 fps minimum on most games. Games like "Escape from Tarkov", "Monster Hunter", "GTA" etc etc...

Should i get water cooling or just 4+ fans?

Thanks in advance!
 

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Right now is a difficult time to build a PC mostly due to the issue of graphics cards.
So I will try my best to suggest parts for the budget and I will include a temporary GPU in the build that will be meant to hold you over until the good stuff is available on the market.

But you can also opt out of said GPU and hold off on the build until you get a good GPU like a 30 series, or, you can opt out of said GPU and go looking into your local used market for something that'll be good for you at a good price.

But first, I need to clarify something.
This £1000 budget is just for a PC?
Or does it need to include anything extra such as monitor, mouse, keyboard, audio (like a headset) etc.?
 
Hi, im trying to build a computer and my budget is around £700-£1000

what parts should i get, if you could comment a pc build for around this price it would be super helpful.

The only requirements is that i want to get a solid 60 fps minimum on most games. Games like "Escape from Tarkov", "Monster Hunter", "GTA" etc etc...

Should i get water cooling or just 4+ fans?

Thanks in advance!
What's your monitor's resolution and does this build include an OS (Windows).
 

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I am a personal advocate of not including Windows purchase into any PC build as part of the budget seeing as how it's completely free to use and all activation does is enable the desktop personalization, gets rid of watermark (which can be done with other methods), and give customer support.
Other than that, it's free to download, install, and use without any restrictions or time limits unlike previous Windows versions (like W7 for example), which means you can then go about getting an activation at a later date after saving up for it allowing for at least £88 (price of W10 Home, gets more expensive as you upgrade to Pro) to be saved and allocated towards the hardware up front.

But as Why_Me said, if you feel you want to have an activated copy of Windows 10 right out the gate, then let us know so we can include that into the budget of the build
 

TheRealBooBam

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I am a personal advocate of not including Windows purchase into any PC build as part of the budget seeing as how it's completely free to use and all activation does is enable the desktop personalization, gets rid of watermark (which can be done with other methods), and give customer support.
Other than that, it's free to download, install, and use without any restrictions or time limits unlike previous Windows versions (like W7 for example), which means you can then go about getting an activation at a later date after saving up for it allowing for at least £88 (price of W10 Home, gets more expensive as you upgrade to Pro) to be saved and allocated towards the hardware up front.

But as Why_Me said, if you feel you want to have an activated copy of Windows 10 right out the gate, then let us know so we can include that into the budget of the build
What's your monitor's resolution and does this build include an OS (Windows).
The budget is just for the pc, windows and monitor are already taken care of its a 24" 1920x1080 and 144hz
 
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Intel build w/Z490 MB.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-carbide-series-175r-rgb-black-mid-tower-pc-case-w-tempered-glass-window-atx-microatx-mini-it
Corsair Carbide 175R RGB, Black, Mid Tower PC Case, w/ Tempered Glass Window £57.98

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-seasonic-core-gold-gm-650-80plus-gold-single-rail-54a-120mm-fan-atx-psu
Seasonic Core Gold GM 650 650W Modular 80+ Gold PSU £69.98

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ud-intel-z490-s-1200-ddr4-sata3-2x-m2-crossfire-gbe-usb-32-gen2-atx
Gigabyte Intel Z490 UD ATX Motherboard £119.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-10400f-s-1200-comet-lake-6-cores-12-threads-29ghz-43ghz-turbo-12mb-cache-65w
Intel Hex Core i5 10400F Core i5 Comet Lake CPU £139.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(2x8gb)-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-lpx-black-pc4-25600-(3200)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-16-18-18-36-xm
16GB (2x8GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black, PC4-25600 (3200), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 16-18-18-36, XMP 2.0, 1.35V £74.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-crucial-bx500-25-ssd-7mm-sata-iii-6gb-s-3d-nand-read-540mb-s-write-500mb-s
Crucial BX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5" SSD £82.99

Total: £546 (does not include gpu)

Same build as above but w/B460 MB and 2666MHz RAM.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-b460-hd3-intel-b460-s-1200-ddr4-sata3-dual-m2-gbe-usb-32-gen1-atx
Gigabyte Intel B460 HD3 ATX Motherboard £84.98

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-2x8gb-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-lpx-black-pc4-21300-2666-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-16-18-18-35-xmp-20
16GB (2x8GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black, PC4-21300 (2666), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 16-18-18-35, XMP 2.0, 1.2V £71.48

Total: £508 (does not include gpu)

AMD build: same as the build at the top of this post but w/B550 MB and 3600 cpu

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-4-amd-b550-s-am4-ddr4-sata3-pcie-40-dual-m2-crossfire-gbe-atx
ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX Motherboard £104.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-ryzen-5-3600-am4-zen-2-6-core-12-thread-36ghz-42ghz-turbo-32mb-l3-pcie-40-65w-with-wraith-stealt
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Gen3 6 Core AM4 CPU/Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler £189.98

Total: £581 (does not include gpu)

https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/gpu-nvidia/geforce-rtx-3060-ti-graphics-cards
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB

Optional (and faster) SSD.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-intel-665p-m2-2280-pcie-30-x4-nvme-ssd-qlc-3d3-nand-2000mb-s-read-1925mb-s-write-160k-250k
Intel 665p 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 3D3 NAND SSD £94.99

Here's a better look at that case.

https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Mid-Tower-ATX-Cases/Carbide-Series-175R-RGB-Tempered-Glass-Mid-Tower-ATX-Gaming-Case-—-Black/p/CC-9011171-WW

 
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after looking at GPU's for UK, I realized that you guys actually have some in stock in some places.
So I threw a 3060 Ti into the build.
It's a tad bit over budget, but will be great for you.
The case I chose comes with two fans installed, you can browse amazon for additional fans and something like a fan header hub to add them all into the case on your own.
You can also add additional storage later on as well on your own.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.88 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£87.23 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£70.75 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£54.35 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card (£469.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (£52.47 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£96.47 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1020.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-09 00:07 GMT+0000
 

TheRealBooBam

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Intel build w/Z490 MB.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-carbide-series-175r-rgb-black-mid-tower-pc-case-w-tempered-glass-window-atx-microatx-mini-it
Corsair Carbide 175R RGB, Black, Mid Tower PC Case, w/ Tempered Glass Window £57.98

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-seasonic-core-gold-gm-650-80plus-gold-single-rail-54a-120mm-fan-atx-psu
Seasonic Core Gold GM 650 650W Modular 80+ Gold PSU £69.98

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ud-intel-z490-s-1200-ddr4-sata3-2x-m2-crossfire-gbe-usb-32-gen2-atx
Gigabyte Intel Z490 UD ATX Motherboard £119.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-10400f-s-1200-comet-lake-6-cores-12-threads-29ghz-43ghz-turbo-12mb-cache-65w
Intel Hex Core i5 10400F Core i5 Comet Lake CPU £139.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(2x8gb)-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-lpx-black-pc4-25600-(3200)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-16-18-18-36-xm
16GB (2x8GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black, PC4-25600 (3200), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 16-18-18-36, XMP 2.0, 1.35V £74.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-crucial-bx500-25-ssd-7mm-sata-iii-6gb-s-3d-nand-read-540mb-s-write-500mb-s
Crucial BX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5" SSD £82.99

Total: £546 (does not include gpu)

Same build as above but w/B460 MB and 2666MHz RAM.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-b460-hd3-intel-b460-s-1200-ddr4-sata3-dual-m2-gbe-usb-32-gen1-atx
Gigabyte Intel B460 HD3 ATX Motherboard £84.98

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-2x8gb-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-lpx-black-pc4-21300-2666-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-16-18-18-35-xmp-20
16GB (2x8GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black, PC4-21300 (2666), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 16-18-18-35, XMP 2.0, 1.2V £71.48

Total: £508 (does not include gpu)

AMD build: same as the build at the top of this post but w/B550 MB and 3600 cpu

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-4-amd-b550-s-am4-ddr4-sata3-pcie-40-dual-m2-crossfire-gbe-atx
ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX Motherboard £104.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-ryzen-5-3600-am4-zen-2-6-core-12-thread-36ghz-42ghz-turbo-32mb-l3-pcie-40-65w-with-wraith-stealt
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Gen3 6 Core AM4 CPU/Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler £189.98

Total: £581 (does not include gpu)

https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/gpu-nvidia/geforce-rtx-3060-ti-graphics-cards
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB

Optional (and faster) SSD.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-intel-665p-m2-2280-pcie-30-x4-nvme-ssd-qlc-3d3-nand-2000mb-s-read-1925mb-s-write-160k-250k
Intel 665p 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 3D3 NAND SSD £94.99


after looking at GPU's for UK, I realized that you guys actually have some in stock in some places.
So I threw a 3060 Ti into the build.
It's a tad bit over budget, but will be great for you.
The case I chose comes with two fans installed, you can browse amazon for additional fans and something like a fan header hub to add them all into the case on your own.
You can also add additional storage later on as well on your own.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.88 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£87.23 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£70.75 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£54.35 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card (£469.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (£52.47 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£96.47 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1020.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-09 00:07 GMT+0000
Thanks for the builds, can i get your opinions on this build aswell? its a 1200£ but i dont know if its worth it or not.
  1. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NWMDht
  2. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/stxN2V
 

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Thanks for the builds, can i get your opinions on this build aswell? its a 1200£ but i dont know if its worth it or not.
  1. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NWMDht
  2. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/stxN2V
The Ryzen 5 3600 is superior to the 9700K for less money, so no, that CPU is no good as an option.
The first build with the RX 580 is no good either, that card is roughly equal to a GTX 1060 6GB.
The 3060 Ti is far newer, and far more powerful, offering you RT cores for ray tracing and DLSS 2.0 upscaling as well as other nice features built in that Nvidia has had on their cards for a long time now such as NVENC for dedicated hardware encoding (things like video editing and streaming)

The 5500 XT is newer for sure, but not the newest, and I wouldn't pick that over a 3060 Ti either.
(Pretty sure it's not even as powerful, and the 4GB of VRAM barely makes the cut these days for AAA titles, and isn't gonna cut it very well in the coming few years.)
Overall, those builds are horribly balanced in regards with price to performance ratio.

While the PC case you picked out is "cool and shiny" looking, it's not very good when it comes to airflow and thermal performance.

If you want a shinier looking case than the one I provided, (which has great air flow btw) and are willing to spend the extra money to get it, then here is an updated version of the build I provided earlier with a shinier case that comes with a fan in the rear and fans in the front.
You can add additional fans to the top of the case at additional cost if you like, or save that space for moving the front fans up there if you want to opt for a third party AiO cooler or something for the CPU.

A different cooler is not necessary for the 3600 if you don't plan on overclocking it to super high overclocks.
The cooler that is included with it can handle a mild overclock on it's own.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.88 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£87.23 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£70.75 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£54.35 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card (£469.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (£97.07 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£96.47 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1064.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-09 01:52 GMT+0000
 

TheRealBooBam

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The Ryzen 5 3600 is superior to the 9700K for less money, so no, that CPU is no good as an option.
The first build with the RX 580 is no good either, that card is roughly equal to a GTX 1060 6GB.
The 3060 Ti is far newer, and far more powerful, offering you RT cores for ray tracing and DLSS 2.0 upscaling as well as other nice features built in that Nvidia has had on their cards for a long time now such as NVENC for dedicated hardware encoding (things like video editing and streaming)

The 5500 XT is newer for sure, but not the newest, and I wouldn't pick that over a 3060 Ti either.
(Pretty sure it's not even as powerful, and the 4GB of VRAM barely makes the cut these days for AAA titles, and isn't gonna cut it very well in the coming few years.)
Overall, those builds are horribly balanced in regards with price to performance ratio.

While the PC case you picked out is "cool and shiny" looking, it's not very good when it comes to airflow and thermal performance.

If you want a shinier looking case than the one I provided, (which has great air flow btw) and are willing to spend the extra money to get it, then here is an updated version of the build I provided earlier with a shinier case that comes with a fan in the rear and fans in the front.
You can add additional fans to the top of the case at additional cost if you like, or save that space for moving the front fans up there if you want to opt for a third party AiO cooler or something for the CPU.

A different cooler is not necessary for the 3600 if you don't plan on overclocking it to super high overclocks.
The cooler that is included with it can handle a mild overclock on it's own.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.88 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£87.23 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£70.75 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£54.35 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card (£469.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (£97.07 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£96.47 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1064.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-09 01:52 GMT+0000
When looking at the 3060 Ti it says its out of stock :(
 

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When looking at the 3060 Ti it says its out of stock :(
Ok, I just looked at it, and it says it'll be available soon.
Are you looking to buy everything tonight right away or something?

If you are willing to essentially put in a pre order or something and wait, then you can get the better GPU.
Otherwise, revert back to what I originally said about looking in your local used market.
Try to get a 1080 Ti or equivalent or better.
i.e.
1080 Ti at the least or 2080/2080 Super.
RX 5700 XT or better/newer.
Buy used for these in your local used market for a fair price.

If you want a lower mid range GPU to just hold you down for a little bit and then buy a proper GPU for your rig later when you can get a hold of one, then you can buy something like a 1660, 1660 Super, or 1660 Ti used from someone for like 200 pounds or something cheap like that.
Or perhaps a 1070 used for the same price.
Something decent that will game well but cost only a little that can help you get your game on until you can get something like a 3060 Ti or even a 3070.

But as I said, the biggest problem with you wanting to build a PC right now is the GPU since it's hard to justify buying anything new that isn't something like a 3060 Ti or better and GPU's are scarce right now, so you have to hit the used market for previous gen stuff at a much lower price for it to be fair to your wallet, or just wait for the good stuff to come into stock properly and the market to start balancing out with more GPU's becoming available.
 

TheRealBooBam

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Ok, I just looked at it, and it says it'll be available soon.
Are you looking to buy everything tonight right away or something?

If you are willing to essentially put in a pre order or something and wait, then you can get the better GPU.
Otherwise, revert back to what I originally said about looking in your local used market.
Try to get a 1080 Ti or equivalent or better.
i.e.
1080 Ti at the least or 2080/2080 Super.
RX 5700 XT or better/newer.
Buy used for these in your local used market for a fair price.

If you want a lower mid range GPU to just hold you down for a little bit and then buy a proper GPU for your rig later when you can get a hold of one, then you can buy something like a 1660, 1660 Super, or 1660 Ti used from someone for like 200 pounds or something cheap like that.
Or perhaps a 1070 used for the same price.
Something decent that will game well but cost only a little that can help you get your game on until you can get something like a 3060 Ti or even a 3070.

But as I said, the biggest problem with you wanting to build a PC right now is the GPU since it's hard to justify buying anything new that isn't something like a 3060 Ti or better and GPU's are scarce right now, so you have to hit the used market for previous gen stuff at a much lower price for it to be fair to your wallet, or just wait for the good stuff to come into stock properly and the market to start balancing out with more GPU's becoming available.
I aggre with this, ill wait for the cards to get in stock and get back to this unless something changes. Thanks for the help!
 
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AMD would be better for streaming.
But not because you would do encoding with the CPU since that could be done using NVENC if you get an Nvidia card.
But rather that it'll have plenty of cores and threads to support both gaming while running software like OBS.
The software itself doesn't use hardly any CPU however, things you add to it do.
Things such as browser sources for your alerts, animations, scene transition effects, etc. etc.
The more things you add the more CPU is used to maintain them all in a scene, and different things can use different amounts of CPU.

So overall for streaming and gaming I would suggest the AMD Ryzen CPU.
It has higher base clock, and unlike the i5, it can be overclocked to have better performance. But this comes at the cost of it being about £50 more than the i5.
 

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