[SOLVED] PC Build for 4k Video Editing--Possible reduction in price?

[SuicuneSol]

Hi! Building a PC for my father which can do 4k video editing.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BhXsQq

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor ($335.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 (2018) 57.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($138.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.89 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($239.84 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($168.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($119.97 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($109.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Samsung LC43J890DKNXZA 43.0" 3840x1200 120 Hz Monitor (Actually going to be $775 from CDW)
Total: $2855.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-02 23:16 EDT-0400

I've read that the more threads there are, the better. This is generation 10 processor, so I'm hoping that might make a difference as well. Things like the pricey monitor, optical drive, and two solid state drives are desired for the user, so those are staying no matter what. But I wanted to know if there is anything I can do to reduce the price of this machine. Was hoping the machine could be built for $1500 or less, not including the monitor.

Also, pretty sure this build can do 4k video editing. But... correct me I'm wrong?

 

[jeremyj_83]

More bang.for your buck going this route.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($416.41 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.98 @ Walmart)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($239.84 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($168.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($94.29 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($109.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: LG 38UC99-W 37.5" 3840x1600 75 Hz Monitor ($999.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2749.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-03 00:11 EDT-0400
You could go with the 3700X to save money and still have 8c/16t. Going with a single 2TB SSD saves money and then having the 4TB HDD to store projects long term is a better option than 2x 1TB SSD. The PSU is of equal quality just $20 cheaper. The 38" monitor is higher resolution and better overall for video editing.

 

[Hellfire13]

Hi! Building a PC for my father which can do 4k video editing.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BhXsQq

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor ($335.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 (2018) 57.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($138.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.89 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($239.84 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($168.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($119.97 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($109.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Samsung LC43J890DKNXZA 43.0" 3840x1200 120 Hz Monitor (Actually going to be $775 from CDW)
Total: $2855.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-02 23:16 EDT-0400

I've read that the more threads there are, the better. This is generation 10 processor, so I'm hoping that might make a difference as well. Things like the pricey monitor, optical drive, and two solid state drives are desired for the user, so those are staying no matter what. But I wanted to know if there is anything I can do to reduce the price of this machine. Was hoping the machine could be built for $1500 or less, not including the monitor.

Also, pretty sure this build can do 4k video editing. But... correct me I'm wrong?

For a video editing machine you have underpowered the most important component. The fastest encoding factor is NVENC which is GPU bound. Your GPU has to be more powerful than the CPU not the other way round...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $274.49 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | $189.99 @ Best Buy
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory | $149.99 @ Newegg
Storage | HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $124.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card | $499.99 @ Best Buy
Case | be quiet! Pure Base 600 ATX Mid Tower Case | $94.90 @ B&H
Power Supply | Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $144.99 @ Best Buy
Optical Drive | LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer | $53.48 @ Other World Computing
Monitor | Acer DM431K bmiiipx 43.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor | $599.95 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2187.76
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-03 05:03 EDT-0400 |

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[jeremyj_83]

For a video editing machine you have underpowered the most important component. The fastest encoding factor is NVENC which is GPU bound. Your GPU has to be more powerful than the CPU not the other way round...

Unless you are using Davinci Resolve, the GPU is less important than the CPU. Reason is in most video editing software there isn't much that the GPU is doing for editing. Those places that it is used is squished together between CPU editing areas and even a 1050Ti will outpace the CPU for those few areas. Sure you will see the Adobe benchmark that shows how much faster certain GPU perform, but that is in purely GPU areas. As soon as you do the full editing, you see that the difference between the 1050Ti and 2080Ti end up being very small, like 10% despite the massively faster GPU. Whereas going with a faster CPU makes a huge difference. In the recommended system requirements for a GPU Adobe Premiere Pro only says 4GB VRAM GPU. Basically spending the money on a 2070 Super is a waste for video editing unless you are using Davinci Resolve.

 

[Hellfire13]

Unless you are using Davinci Resolve, the GPU is less important than the CPU. Reason is in most video editing software there isn't much that the GPU is doing for editing. Those places that it is used is squished together between CPU editing areas and even a 1050Ti will outpace the CPU for those few areas. Sure you will see the Adobe benchmark that shows how much faster certain GPU perform, but that is in purely GPU areas. As soon as you do the full editing, you see that the difference between the 1050Ti and 2080Ti end up being very small, like 10% despite the massively faster GPU. Whereas going with a faster CPU makes a huge difference. In the recommended system requirements for a GPU Adobe Premiere Pro only says 4GB VRAM GPU. Basically spending the money on a 2070 Super is a waste for video editing unless you are using Davinci Resolve.

Most of current editing softwares including the most popular ones like Premiere Pro and Davinci Resolve relies on GPU encoding when rendering and compressing the output in H264 format. CPU encoding is legacy on current hardware as NVENC is faster and more efficient in compressing and rendering the output. It is why you need a strong GPU along with a strong CPU to balance the load.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Most of current editing softwares including the most popular ones like Premiere Pro and Davinci Resolve relies on GPU encoding when rendering and compressing the output in H264 format. CPU encoding is legacy on current hardware as NVENC is faster and more efficient in compressing and rendering the output. It is why you need a strong GPU along with a strong CPU to balance the load.

Every modern, written since 2018, 4k video editing recommendation article I have read says CPU is more important that GPU. The only software that really wants a fast GPU is Resolve. Will having a faster GPU help, yes, but the CPU is still the most important part of the setup.

 

[Hellfire13]

Every modern, written since 2018, 4k video editing recommendation article I have read says CPU is more important that GPU. The only software that really wants a fast GPU is Resolve. Will having a faster GPU help, yes, but the CPU is still the most important part of the setup.

The CPU is mostly the editing part. But the compression and rendering is the GPU part. They are both important. And since the encoding part is more resource hungry, a stronger GPU is always recommended.

 

[xxscienceboyxx]

Yes, your 1660 GPU will very likely make your computer worse for 4K editing. You should definitely get a more powerful GPU.