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Helferi

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Hi, I'm new here and I should probably start off by saying I don't know very much about computers. So if I've made some idiotic mistake in my parts list, I'm sorry.

I need to get the perfect build planned out for a PC that is optimized to render quickly, and can also allow me to game. I want to avoid ridiculously slow renders, I don't have a "farm" or anything fancy but I will be working on this PC daily.


  • Primarily I need to use it for 3D design, animation, digital art, video editing and gaming.
    Programs I would be using would be things like maya, blender, zbrush, mudbox, and possibly octane. (Photoshop, sketchbook, and ect. for digital art)
    I'm not sure if it matters, but games wise- WOW and OverWatch to start.

    For gaming I'd need high/Decent res. Doesn't have to be 4k or anything though.


  • My budget is $2500-$3000 Canadian (No more than $3k taxes in would be ideal, but going slightly over if the part(s) makes a monumental difference is not out of consideration)
This is my list so far.
[PCPartPicker part list](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9B4xf8) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9B4xf8/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/6tXfrH/intel-cpu-bx80648i75820k) | $503.75 @ Vuugo
**CPU Cooler** | [Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15) | $99.89 @ Newegg Canada
**Motherboard** | [MSI X99A SLI ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/TYNypg/msi-x99a-sli-atx-lga2011-3-motherboard-x99a-sli) | $319.99 @ Newegg Canada
**Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/7cqbt6/gskill-memory-f43200c16q32gvkb) | $199.99 @ Newegg Canada
**Storage** | [Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/VrH48d/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mzn5e500bw) | $194.98 @ DirectCanada
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006) | $88.98 @ DirectCanada
**Video Card** | [PNY Quadro K4000 3GB Video Card](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/DGphP6/pny-video-card-vcqk4000pb) | $1048.99 @ Amazon Canada
**Case** | [Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3MPfrH/deepcool-case-tesseractsw) | $49.99 @ Newegg Canada
**Power Supply** | [EVGA G2L 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jLcMnQ/evga-g2l-850w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gl-0850-x1) | $199.99 @ Newegg Canada
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **$2706.55**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-10-20 01:16 EDT-0400 |

I'm mainly confused about the video cards. Some say do two cards, like 980s- some say otherwise. I've heard plenty of good about the quadro's performance though. Input about this would be greatly appreciated.

One other thing, the memory- any reason specifically in this case as to why 2x16 might be better than the 4x8?

If you're wondering why there's no OS listed, it's because I can get Windows 10 or 8 free from a buddy. I may also be able to get the barracuda hard drive as well- so I may have $100 more wiggle room if that helps stretch the budget a bit.

Thanks in advance !!!
 
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Hi, thank you for response ! I'm glad the ram is alright, that's good to know.


There's a noticeable disparity in prices between the US and Canada, I'll check later but I have a feeling your build might be a bit over-budget over here. For example, the xeon cpu in your list is about $800 here. I checked out the case, seems nice aside from the silver badge on the front !

If I go with a 256 950 instead of the 850 EVO, could I get away with a 2TB hard drive ? Or should I go with 4 to compensate ? If so, any difference between seagate barracuda and constellation models ?

As for GPU, I've had a many people recommend the GTX 1080 as it apparently outperforms the quadro I had originally selected.

This is my current buildlist ... though I...
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I'd go a single 1080, not all programs will support SLI (two cards), 4x8GB would allow full use of quad channel mode which will help in many of your programs, also keep in mind 3200 will require an OC of the CPU, with the selected CPU I'd prob go 2800 tops
 
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Hi, thanks for your reply ! I actually have a new & slightly improved build list here. With a 1080 in it, though I'm not sure which 1080 model is the best for my needs. The "gaming" one is included in the new build.

I guess I was curious about dual or multi cards because I'm keen on using Octane.

The new build also uses a different processor, quad core & a bit faster. With the new one, should I still change the memory? I was also wondering if I should/can up the SSD ? As I am going to be putting quite a bit of software on this PC.
 
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Helferi,

A good list.

1. GPU: Consider buying a used Quadro M4000 in place of the K4000. these appear to cos about $900 CAD. This will preserve the viewport support, and high anti-aliasing of a Quadro, but will be far better in 3D modeling and games. The Passmark average 3D rating of the K4000 is 2824, and Quadro M4000 = 6518. For comparison, the average 3D for a GTX 770 is 6137. The K4000 is running nearer the GTX 650 Ti at 2667. I've had 8 or so used Quadros and never had a failure in 11 years. I still use a 2004 FX1800 that cost $25 in the server and an 2008 FX 4800 in a Dell Precision T5400.

2. Drives: X99 and M.2 are made for each and perhaps consider would suggest changing the main drive to Samsung 950 256GB NVMe. Pasmark disk ratings: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB = 4248 ($198) and Samsung 950 256GB NVMe = 11799 ($235). Yes, smaller capacity, but I've found -on an HP z620 with 256GB Z Turbo Drive (Samsung SM951 within) that the OS /programs is about 140GB, leaving 100GB for files works very well. My complete files minus media files over 15 years equals only about 75GB and with the amount of archived stuff, the files on the main drive equal about 40GB. There are of course other M.2 in the 480-512GB category

3. RAM: It is better to have each channel complete so use RAM in sets of 4. For the MSI board with 8 slots, buy 4X 8GB and that will allow another 32GB later. Actually, with animation, I'd say go ahead and have the 8X 8GB from the start.

4. Case: Consider a larger, more airy case, that is rated to be quiet. In long rendering slogs, the fans will be running on high and noise in workstations quiet is essential.

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Your listed system shoulld work well. For an alternative, follows is a list made earlier for this same use. Very good performance but in $CAD terms over the mark- I'd say in the CAD $3500 range. The E5-1650 v4 is chosen as it is 3.6 /4.0GHz. The 4GHZ top speed makes the important single thread mark at 2197 and average CPU score 14334 as compared to the i7-5820K at 2009 /12980. another important aspect is that the i7-5820K supports only 28 PCIe lanes to the Xeon E5;s 40. GPU's use x16 and M.2 use4 so if you ever added a second GPU the system would running low.. A second GPU or would run at x8- not terrible, but not a good idea for a GPU coprocessor. Also, with animation rendering, ECC is apparently important- to avoid crashes that seems to happen typically at 80-90% completion.

Sorry, this list is in USD

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1. CPU: Processor: Intel CPU BX80660E51650V4 Xeon Processor E5-1650v4 15M Cache 3.6/ 4/0GHz FC-LGA14A> $602

http://www.superbiiz.com/query.php?s=E5-1650+V4

E5-1650v4 Specification

http://ark.intel.com/products/92994

2. CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU cooler > $31.

3. Motherboard: ASRock X99 EXTREME4 LGA2011-v3/ Intel X99/ DDR4/ Quad CrossFireX & Quad SLI/ SATA3&USB3.0/ M.2/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard > $201

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157543&cm_re=extreme_4-_-13-157-543-_-Product

4. Memory: 32GB (4X 8GB) Kingston ValueRAM 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Server Memory Model KVR21E15D8/8HA> $204 ($45 each)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242166&cm_re=DDR4-2133_8GB_ECC_unbuffered-_-20-242-166-_-Product

5. GPU PNY Quadro M4000 VCQM4000-PB 8GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Full Height Workstation Video Card > $787

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PNY-M4000

6. Drive 1: SAMSUNG 950 PRO M.2 512GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V5P512BW> $350 (OS, applications, working files)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373&cm_re=samsung_850_evo_500gb-_-20-147-373-_-Product

7. Drive 2: Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST4000NM0033 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive > $210 (Files, Backup, System Image)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-W13FZEX

8. Power Supply: CORSAIR RMx Series RM850X 850W 80 PLUS GOLD Haswell Ready Full Modular ATX12V & EPS12V SLI and Crossfire Ready Power Supply > $130

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139141&ignorebbr=1

9. Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE 24X SATA DVD±RW Internal Drive w/o Software (Black) SH-224DB $17.99

10. Case: Cooler Master Silencio 652S - Silent Mid Tower Computer Case with Sound Dampening Panels, Three Silencio FP 120 Fans, and Multiple Removable Air Filters > $120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119303&ignorebbr=1

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TOTAL =$2,616 USD.


CAD / 3D Modeling / Graphic Design:

HP z420 (2015) (Rev 3) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

Analysis / Simulation / Rendering:

HP z620 (2012) (Rev 3) 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz) / 64GB DDR3-1600 ECC reg) / Quadro K2200 (4GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive (256GB) + Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB / 800W > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > HP 2711x (27" 1980 X 1080)
[ Passmark System Rating= 5675 / CPU= 22625 / 2D= 815 / 3D = 3580 / Mem = 2522 / Disk = 12640 ] 9.25.16
[Cinebench R15: OpenGL= 115.78 fps / CPU = 2199 cb / Single core 131 cb / MP Ratio 16.84x
 
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Hi, thank you for response ! I'm glad the ram is alright, that's good to know.


There's a noticeable disparity in prices between the US and Canada, I'll check later but I have a feeling your build might be a bit over-budget over here. For example, the xeon cpu in your list is about $800 here. I checked out the case, seems nice aside from the silver badge on the front !

If I go with a 256 950 instead of the 850 EVO, could I get away with a 2TB hard drive ? Or should I go with 4 to compensate ? If so, any difference between seagate barracuda and constellation models ?

As for GPU, I've had a many people recommend the GTX 1080 as it apparently outperforms the quadro I had originally selected.

This is my current buildlist ... though I may change the CPU to the i7 6800K for the extra cores.

[PCPartPicker part list](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7FJ6BP) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7FJ6BP/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/tdmxFT/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700k) | $439.98 @ DirectCanada
**CPU Cooler** | [Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15) | $99.89 @ Newegg Canada
**Motherboard** | [Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/tBZ2FT/asus-motherboard-maximusviiihero) | $266.98 @ DirectCanada
**Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/7cqbt6/gskill-memory-f43200c16q32gvkb) | $199.99 @ Newegg Canada
**Storage** | [Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/VrH48d/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mzn5e500bw) | $194.98 @ DirectCanada
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006) | $88.98 @ DirectCanada
**Video Card** | [MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/XC648d/msi-video-card-gtx1080gamingx8g) | $879.99 @ NCIX
**Case** | [Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/BKW9TW/corsair-case-750d) | $177.99 @ PC Canada
**Power Supply** | [EVGA G2L 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jLcMnQ/evga-g2l-850w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gl-0850-x1) | $199.99 @ Newegg Canada
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $2568.77
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| **Total** | **$2548.77**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-10-21 12:01 EDT-0400 |
 
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