Build Advice PC build (max 1080p, 144hz) for BF2042 etc...

[Kriilus]

Hey guys! I'm planning on building a new pc and wanted to hear your guys' thoughts on it and if i could improve it somehow.
PC used mainly for gaming while listening to music and watching videos. So a little bit of multi-tasking but mainly single task.

CASE
Corsair 5000D Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX PC Case:
https://www.ebuyer.com/1133974-cors...ass-mid-tower-atx-pc-case-black-cc-9011210-ww

CPU
INTEL Core™ i5-11600K Unlocked Processor (Unsure wheather to go AMD or stick to Intel):
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/compu...5-11600k-unlocked-processor-10221166-pdt.html

CPU COOLER
Noctua NH-D15 Premium CPU Cooler ( I wouldn't want to risk doing water cooling, just in case, you know):
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NH-D15-Premium-Cooler-NF-A15/dp/B00L7UZMAK

MOBO
ASUS ROG Strix Z490-H Gaming Z490 LGA 1200 (Intel 10th Gen) ATX Gaming Motherboard:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-ROG-Z...trix+Z490-H+Gaming+Z490&qid=1618356223&sr=8-1

GPU
EVGA 08G-P5-3755-KR GeForce RTX 3070 (or 3080?):
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-08G-P5-...e/dp/B08L8L71SM/?tag=girgammal-20+target&th=1

RAM
Viper Steel DDR4 16GB:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Patriot-Me...00+CL19+RAM&qid=1618353358&s=computers&sr=1-1

PS
be quiet! Straight Power 11 750W:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/quiet-Stra...544be084412f96ce2f504d9&qid=1618355711&sr=8-2

SSD FOR GAMES
WD_BLACK SN750 1TB High-Performance NVMe Internal Gaming SSD:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-SN75...+Gaming+SSD&qid=1618356396&s=computers&sr=1-3

HDD FOR STORAGE
Crucial MX500 1 TB:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B078211...pcg-gb-8471654714266498000-21&geniuslink=true

I don't know if I should get an m.2 just for the OS for faster boot.

price: £1576.81

Thanks for reading

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

regarding the storage;

SSD FOR GAMES
WD_BLACK SN750 1TB High-Performance NVMe Internal Gaming SSD:

HDD FOR STORAGE
Crucial MX500 1 TB:

you will notice no improvement for game loading using NVMe M.2 drive vs a decent 2.5" SATA SSD.
if you can find a larger 2.5" drive for a similar price, go for that.
1TB will fill up pretty fast with the size of modern games.

and the Crucial is not an HDD, it is an SSD.
if you're looking for something just for personal file storage, backups, etc;
you should look more into an external 8TB HDD or something similar.
portability with personal files and media files can be a huge plus.

I don't know if I should get an m.2 just for the OS for faster boot.

i would probably be looking into a ~500GB M.2 for OS & applications.

my goal would be;
a >/= 480GB M.2 for OS & apps,
a 2-4TB 2.5" SATA SSD for games,
a >6TB external drive for personal storage & backup.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

GPU
EVGA 08G-P5-3755-KR GeForce RTX 3070 (or 3080?):

do you have something to substitute for now?
unless you get VERY lucky, you will not find an available RTX 3000 card for quite some time.

if depending on this for the build and don't want to be stuck using an iGPU, you will need to find something to use as a placeholder.

 

[Why_Me]

Hey guys! I'm planning on building a new pc and wanted to hear your guys' thoughts on it and if i could improve it somehow.
PC used mainly for gaming while listening to music and watching videos. So a little bit of multi-tasking but mainly single task.

CASE
Corsair 5000D Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX PC Case:
https://www.ebuyer.com/1133974-cors...ass-mid-tower-atx-pc-case-black-cc-9011210-ww

CPU
INTEL Core™ i5-11600K Unlocked Processor (Unsure wheather to go AMD or stick to Intel):
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/compu...5-11600k-unlocked-processor-10221166-pdt.html

CPU COOLER
Noctua NH-D15 Premium CPU Cooler ( I wouldn't want to risk doing water cooling, just in case, you know):
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NH-D15-Premium-Cooler-NF-A15/dp/B00L7UZMAK

MOBO
ASUS ROG Strix Z490-H Gaming Z490 LGA 1200 (Intel 10th Gen) ATX Gaming Motherboard:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-ROG-Z...trix+Z490-H+Gaming+Z490&qid=1618356223&sr=8-1

GPU
EVGA 08G-P5-3755-KR GeForce RTX 3070 (or 3080?):
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-08G-P5-...e/dp/B08L8L71SM/?tag=girgammal-20+target&th=1

RAM
Viper Steel DDR4 16GB:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Patriot-Me...00+CL19+RAM&qid=1618353358&s=computers&sr=1-1

PS
be quiet! Straight Power 11 750W:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/quiet-Stra...544be084412f96ce2f504d9&qid=1618355711&sr=8-2

SSD FOR GAMES
WD_BLACK SN750 1TB High-Performance NVMe Internal Gaming SSD:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-SN75...+Gaming+SSD&qid=1618356396&s=computers&sr=1-3

HDD FOR STORAGE
Crucial MX500 1 TB:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B078211...pcg-gb-8471654714266498000-21&geniuslink=true

I don't know if I should get an m.2 just for the OS for faster boot.

price: £1576.81

Thanks for reading

You have a Z490 board for a 11th gen cpu which isn't the best option. If you want to run an unlocked 11th gen cpu then I suggest a Z590 board.

Here's a few options to consider.

No difference in FPS for Intel's 10th & 11th gen cpu's between 4400Mhz RAM and 3600 Mhz RAM not to mention it's a lot easier to set your timings with 3600 vs 4400.

Try this.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Ballistix-BL2K8G36C16U4B-Desktop-Gaming/dp/B083V93HJG/
Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3600MHz Desktop Gaming Memory Kit, 16GB (8GB x2) CL16 £109.60


And if you'd like to save a few more quid while achieving similar performance then I suggest this route. This board will allow you to run either of these cpu's with the power limits turned off in the bios. It's a round a bout way of OC these cpu's.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asu...dr4-pcie-40-sata3-3x-m2-25gbe-usb-32-gen2-atx
ASUS TUF GAMING H570-PRO £148.99

https://www.novatech.co.uk/products...ocket-lga1200-cpuprocessor/bx8070811400f.html
Intel Core i5 11400F £149.99

or ...

https://www.novatech.co.uk/products...ocket-lga1200-cpuprocessor/bx8070811700f.html
Intel Core i7 11700F £275.54


Here's a review of that cpu w/benchmarks.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i5-11400f-processor-review,1.html


Here's a better look at that board.

TUF GAMING H570-PRO｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

Intel® H570 (LGA 1200) ATX gaming motherboard with PCIe 4.0, three M.2 slots, 8+1 power stages, Realtek 2.5 Gb Ethernet, HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort 1.4, rear USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Type-C®, front panel USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type C®, Thunderbolt™ 4 support, SATA 6 Gbps and Aura Sync RGB lighting.

www.asus.com

 

[Kriilus]

Thank you two so much, I really appreciate the replies and suggestions! I've selected some storage drives and added both of your suggestions to the build.
I don't know exactly if I wanna go for an i5 or i7. Is the difference mainly more multi task capabilities with the i7?
I do have a GPU right now that I could use temporarly in this build it's an MSI 1060 6GB.

Here are the storage drives I went for:
WD Blue SN550 1TB High-Performance M.2 Pcie NVMe SSD [OS and APPS]:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/WD-Blue-SN...419152031&sourceid=Mozilla-search&sr=8-3&th=1

WD Blue 3D NAND Internal SSD 2.5 Inch SATA - 2 TB [GAMES]:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Di...nts=p_72:419153031&rnid=419152031&sr=8-3&th=1

WD 4 TB Elements Portable External Hard Drive - USB 3.0 [PERSONAL STORAGE]:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/WD-Element...s=external+hdd+4tb&qid=1623282462&sr=8-3&th=1

and also swapped the case
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Quiet-BG011-Aluminium-Chassis/dp/B01H6JQAJ2

would a 3080 be completely overkill or be worth it for 1080p 144hz/240hz gaming and future proofing.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

and also swapped the case
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Quiet-BG011-Aluminium-Chassis/dp/B01H6JQAJ2

that's an insane price for the be quiet! Dark Base 900.
their newer Silent Base 802 is a much better case with much better options for less than half of that:
https://www.bequiet.com/en/case/2047
i would guess that since they're coming from Germany you could find much better prices over there without the overseas shipping?

would a 3080 be completely overkill or be worth it for 1080p 144hz/240hz gaming and future proofing.

"future proofing" is difficult.
besides considering how game engine technology may increase,
you also need to consider how your own preferences may evolve.
being stuck at 1080p for years in the future would seem like a pretty bad idea to me. seemed like a bad idea to me ~4 years ago.

the RTX 3080 is the lowest card i would be shooting for, especially if you want it to keep up with the most demanding games for more than a few years.
but i'm always hoping to play things with the highest settings, at higher frame rates, and at higher resolutions.

my current RX 6700 XT is closer on par with the RTX 3070 and it can barely hit 80fps with the most demanding games @ 3440x1440p.
@ 1920x1080 i'd imagine you'd be quite a bit closer to 100fps, but maxing out a 144Hz display might not be possible with the 3070.

 

[Kriilus]

Ok, thanks so much man, I found this... is this a reasonably priced 3080 or would we still need to wait longer.

EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Gaming 10GB Graphics Card - Infinite Computing

The EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 delivers the unprecedented performance that gamers crave for 4K resolution gaming, powered by the NVIDIA Ampere.

infinite-computing.co.uk

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

is this a reasonably priced 3080 or would we still need to wait longer

the MSRP is $899 US.

 

[Kriilus]

for after market?
also
Intel Core i5 11400F is discontinued.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

Intel Core i5 11400F is discontinued

where did you read that?
have seen no articles regarding and the intel ark does not state that it is.

 

[Kriilus]

it might just be from the guys selling it on their website maybe
https://www.novatech.co.uk/products...ocket-lga1200-cpuprocessor/bx8070811400f.html
yikes not discontinued just out lol 🔨

 

[Kriilus]

idk if it's worth 45 to have the cpu blacked out wdyt
also i'm not sure about the fitting and the space between the cpu cooler and gpu
I don't know which aftermarket brand gpu to get either, which is more reputable i suppose

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

i'm not sure about the fitting and the space between the cpu cooler and gpu
I don't know which aftermarket brand gpu to get either

on a higher quality ATX or EATX board,
there will be plenty of space vertically between the Noctua NH-D15 and the PCIe slot for a large GPU.

concerning 3rd party GPU manufacturers;
most make pretty reliable versions with high quality coolers.
the current state of GPU availability limits your options though.
instead of hand picking a certain version, these days you will take whatever comes available and live with any downside to it or most likely be stuck with nothing.

 

[Kriilus]

noice! This might be a bit off topic but is it possible to sort stuff in documents. I don't wanna sort it and then mess anything up.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

but is it possible to sort stuff in documents. I don't wanna sort it and then mess anything up.

right-clicking on the columns(Name, Date Modified, etc) will give you options to add\remove columns.
then clicking on these individual columns will allow sorting by that attribute.

or right-clicking in the middle of the folder will call up the option to "sort by" a particular attribute.

you can always change which it is sorted by.

 

[Kriilus]

Ok ty! I'll do occasional streaming of games so idk which cpu to go for and if it will be worth the money

https://www.novatech.co.uk/products...ocket-lga1200-cpuprocessor/bx8070811400f.html
Intel Core i5 11400F £149.99

or ...

https://www.novatech.co.uk/products...ocket-lga1200-cpuprocessor/bx8070811700f.html
Intel Core i7 11700F £275.54

 

[Why_Me]

Ok ty! I'll do occasional streaming of games so idk which cpu to go for and if it will be worth the money

https://www.novatech.co.uk/products...ocket-lga1200-cpuprocessor/bx8070811400f.html
Intel Core i5 11400F £149.99

or ...

https://www.novatech.co.uk/products...ocket-lga1200-cpuprocessor/bx8070811700f.html
Intel Core i7 11700F £275.54

i7 if you plan on streaming. Pair it up with a H570/B560 board.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi...ta3-2x-m2-crossfire-25gbe-usb-32-gen2x2-m-atx
MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA £109.99

A better look at that board.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B560M-BAZOOKA

 

[Kriilus]

Ok, sounds good. I'm looking again at cases and chose this because of airflow and it being quiet; it's a Be Quiet Pure Base 500DX Black, Mid Tower ATX case and it looks tight. Especially with ASUS TUF GAMING H570-PRO mobo shroud for the inputs and height, width and depth of the Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler.

 

[RodroX]

eh.... soooooo you are building a PC for a game that launch in 4 months, from which theres no independent performance testing to see yet, and that it does not even have official system requirements (not that this last ones mean anything lately).

Anyways my two cents.

1. If you are going to stream using the built-in funcionality on nvidia GPUs (+OBS for example), then the core i5 should be enough (keep in mind this is using my crystal ball cause the game is not even in beta yet)
2. I would really not waste money on any "K" intel 11 gen CPU. You wont get a lot more performance with or without OC. Overclocking is not as good as to say 9th gen or prior, not worth it (for me). In fact between the i5 11600K and for example a i5 11400(non-K) I would get the last one, or an i7 11700.
3. Try to balance what you spend on mobo+cpu+ram with the money you need for a GPU to run the game at 1080p@144Hz, when in doubt put more money on the GPU. For example, you wont get a lot more performance from a 4400MHz RAM kit (if you get any noticable performance increase at all), when a 3600MHz is cheaper.

Then again, is your money and as other mention before in some case you may be buying what you can get.

 

[Kriilus]

Yea I understand, just wanna have a decent experience playing the game and being able to stream it as well. It's probably gonna be 3060 or 1060 minimum gpu and idk the cpu but probably some i5 (k).

The cpus listed by @Why_Me are both non (k) so that's alright, I wasn't thinking of getting a (k) cpu just one that has good price to performance. I can't find a website that shows benchmarks and clear differences in performance for both single and multi core tasks it either has one or the other which is a little bit annoying.

I just don't want it to be in anyway messy or stuttering when streaming the game at 1080p 60fps, I have the internet speed/upload speed to stream. It's a big price increase for an i7 just wanted to know if it's absolutely worth it for a bit more multi tasking capability and is it really needed unless you have 10 tabs open at a time lol. The most tabs I'd have open would be spotify the game and maybe a youtube video and 3 other tabs like guides etc...

 

[Why_Me]

Ok, sounds good. I'm looking again at cases and chose this because of airflow and it being quiet; it's a Be Quiet Pure Base 500DX Black, Mid Tower ATX case and it looks tight. Especially with ASUS TUF GAMING H570-PRO mobo shroud for the inputs and height, width and depth of the Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler.

Solid choices. ^^

You can save yourself a few quid with this cpu cooler.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Scythe-Fuma-Heatsink-Twin-Tower-Design/dp/B07QMK5R45/
Scythe Fuma 2 CPU Cooler £64.99

 

[RodroX]

Yea I understand, just wanna have a decent experience playing the game and being able to stream it as well. It's probably gonna be 3060 or 1060 minimum gpu and idk the cpu but probably some i5 (k).

The cpus listed by @Why_Me are both non (k) so that's alright, I wasn't thinking of getting a (k) cpu just one that has good price to performance. I can't find a website that shows benchmarks and clear differences in performance for both single and multi core tasks it either has one or the other which is a little bit annoying.

I just don't want it to be in anyway messy or stuttering when streaming the game at 1080p 60fps, I have the internet speed/upload speed to stream. It's a big price increase for an i7 just wanted to know if it's absolutely worth it for a bit more multi tasking capability and is it really needed unless you have 10 tabs open at a time lol. The most tabs I'd have open would be spotify the game and maybe a youtube video and 3 other tabs like guides etc...

I have usually 10 tabs or more open while playing (including youtube, mail, etc), plus some PDF, discord, and every now and then MSI Afterburner, I sometiems could be streaming using discord too, and I never saw my Ryzen 5 3600 (6 cores / 12 threads) been fully utilized.

Of course if you can go with the Core i7, I would said go ahead, but if its way more expensive than the Core i5, then I would rather put more money on the GPU instead.

Well hope you enjoy the game when its out!

And I agree with Why_Me those case, mobo and cooler are solid choices, the Scythe Fuma 2 is great too!

 

[Kriilus]

Thanks for the advice and suggestions boys!

 

[ohio_buckeye]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-BX...ta+ssd&qid=1625530914&sprefix=1tb+sata&sr=8-3

I’m not from the uk, I’m from the USA, so forgive me if that’s not the best result. But that would be decent for game storage. You could even go 240gb or 500gb for your boot drive and to save money.