Question PC build need help.

[acegaming90]

Hello ,

I wanna upgrade my PC after years and am very clueless what to do. I got budget of 2000 euros and Would like a monitor included in upgrade , i Mostly play WoW but like to dabble in other games , Would like to have a 1440p Resoluation Setup for My Pc and be able to play most games.

If there is any recommendations i would love to hear.

thank you!

 

[Lafong]

What country are you in?

What stores might you buy from online?

Do you have any preferences for AMD or Intel or liquid cooling or RGB stuff?

 

[acegaming90]

What country are you in?

What stores might you buy from online?

Do you have any preferences for AMD or Intel or liquid cooling or RGB stuff?

Thank you for reply

I am From belgium so Likely surrounding countries ,

I saw Megekko Seems to be pretty decent price wise ,

I Don't mind any (amd or intel) if i get most bang for buck , I never used liquid cooling (last time i build pc was back in 2012 But i believe it would be best ) , RGB i Don't like but again if it comes with cost of performance then i am not fuzzy about it.

 

[Why_Me]

Thank you for reply

I am From belgium so Likely surrounding countries ,

I saw Megekko Seems to be pretty decent price wise ,

I Don't mind any (amd or intel) if i get most bang for buck , I never used liquid cooling (last time i build pc was back in 2012 But i believe it would be best ) , RGB i Don't like but again if it comes with cost of performance then i am not fuzzy about it.

Is the monitor to be included in the budget?

 

[acegaming90]

Is the monitor to be included in the budget?

Yes In 2000 Euro Give or take , could go bit up or down if worth it.

 

[Why_Me]

Yes In 2000 Euro Give or take , could go bit up or down if worth it.

A little over but it's worth it imo. That 120mm Arctic fan goes inside the back of the case for a rear exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (€312.95 @ Megekko)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler (€58.85 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€172.95 @ Megekko)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€123.85 @ Megekko)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€104.95 @ Megekko)
Video Card: *Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card (€879.00 @ Tones.be)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€83.85 @ Megekko)
Power Supply: *NZXT C850 (2022) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€118.85 @ Megekko)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (€12.90 @ Megekko)
Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€329.00 @ Alternate Belgium)
Total: €2197.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-14 06:08 CEST+0200

A better look at those components.

TUF GAMING VG27AQ1A｜Monitors｜ASUS USA

TUF Gaming monitors are ideal for competitive gamers on a budget, delivering a carefully selected set of high-end gaming features at palatable prices. Immaculate visuals are now within reach.

www.asus.com

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-24m-cache-up-to-5-10-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ag620-air-cooler

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15900.shtml

ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Trinity OC | ZOTAC

<p>Leveraging an all-new aerodynamic inspired design, the ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Trinity OC utilizes the world’s most advanced gaming GPU powered by the NVIDIA Ada Lovelace architecture and DLSS 3. Using cutting-edge cooling technologies derived from the flagship model, the Trinity OC...

www.zotac.com

 

[Why_Me]

I just read that you play WoW. That build price can be reduced by going with a RTX 4070 and 750W power supply. The build I posted might be a little overkill.

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor (€222.95 @ Megekko)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler (€38.85 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€172.95 @ Megekko)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€123.85 @ Megekko)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€104.95 @ Megekko)
Video Card: *Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card (€676.95 @ Azerty)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€83.85 @ Megekko)
Power Supply: *NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€108.85 @ Megekko)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (€12.90 @ Megekko)
Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€329.00 @ Alternate Belgium)
Total: €1875.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-14 06:28 CEST+0200

 

[acegaming90]

I just read that you play WoW. That build price can be reduced by going with a RTX 4070 and 750W power supply. The build I posted might be a little overkil

Would i not need Windows ? And wanna stay close to 2000 but Do want a lasting PC (i don't wanna upgrade so quick)

 

[Why_Me]

Would i not need Windows ? And wanna stay close to 2000 but Do want a lasting PC (i don't wanna upgrade so quick)

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/dKkWGX/microsoft-windows-11-home-oem-dvd-64-bit-kw9-00633

 

[acegaming90]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor (€222.95 @ Megekko)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler (€38.85 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€172.95 @ Megekko)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€123.85 @ Megekko)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€104.95 @ Megekko)
Video Card: *Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card (€676.95 @ Azerty)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€83.85 @ Megekko)
Power Supply: *NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€108.85 @ Megekko)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (€12.90 @ Megekko)
Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€329.00 @ Alternate Belgium)
Total: €1875.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-14 06:28 CEST+0200

That looks great , What about a liquid cooler? Would this be better over AMD build? i do prefer intel but i was googling around and heard 6950 is performing better.

 

[acegaming90]

Also why the F over K version?

 

[Why_Me]

That looks great , What about a liquid cooler? Would this be better over AMD build? i do prefer intel but i was googling around and heard 6950 is performing better.

No need for an AIO. Those air coolers I posted do just fine ... read the reviews. That and air coolers last longer.

 

[Lafong]

There is certainly no over-riding need for liquid cooling on a 13400 of any type.

But you may have a preference for reasons of your own?

I don't think there is a 13400K.

13400F lacks integrated video.

13400 has integrated video.

K is available on 13600 and above.

 

[Why_Me]

Also why the F over K version?

F is the non integrated graphics and K is with integrated graphics. You can edit those builds to change the cpu to one with integrated graphics if you like.

 

[Why_Me]

There is certainly no over-riding need for liquid cooling on a 13400 of any type.

But you may have a preference for reasons of your own?

I don't think there is a 13400K.

13400F lacks integrated video.

13400 has integrated video.

K is available on 13600 and above.

The i5 13500 would be the closest cpu to the 13400F that comes with integrated graphics.

 

[acegaming90]

The i5 13500 would be the closest cpu to the 13400F that comes with integrated graphics.

OK my bad i am clueless about such things ,
Would this AMD build be better or you would say intel?

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/3Djzzf

I am not sure about Mobo , Ram and PSU but if you could have a quick look would appreciate it!
I am also not too sure about 4070 vs 9650, i have been googling for past couple days and only getting more confused
The PSU there i couldn't find on the same shop i could every other component , NZXT C850 is good cpu?

 

[Lafong]

7700x versus 13400: about a 15% advantage to the 7700x on single thread performance.

7700x versus 13500; about an 8% advantage to the 7700x

7700x versus 13600K; about a 2% advantage to the 13600K

 

[Why_Me]

OK my bad i am clueless about such things ,
Would this AMD build be better or you would say intel?

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/3Djzzf

I am not sure about Mobo , Ram and PSU but if you could have a quick look would appreciate it!
I am also not too sure about 4070 vs 9650, i have been googling for past couple days and only getting more confused

That build works ^^ I made a few changes to it. Updated Asus monitor ... newer version for the same price .. added a 120mm rear exhaust fan to that case, changed the RAM to AMD EXPO, changed to a dual tower ARGB air cooler and changed up to a full size ATX board.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor (€332.95 @ Megekko)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler (€68.85 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€202.95 @ Megekko)
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory (€119.85 @ Megekko)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€64.90 @ Tones.be)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 6950 XT 16 GB Video Card (€656.95 @ Azerty)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case (€73.85 @ Megekko)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€116.80 @ Azerty)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (€12.90 @ Megekko)
Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (€329.00 @ Alternate Belgium)
Total: €1979.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-14 06:57 CEST+0200

 

[acegaming90]

So couple Questions , The monitor is same model but the one you link is 'newer' as i understand?
Why not Liquid cooler? And Case didn't have exhaust fan i guess , Is there an alternative to that Case? i am not fan of RBG anyways . Why the Ram change? And power supply is semi modular , Is it worth it over non modular of similar price? i saw NZXT C850 But not sure if its similar quality.

Please take these Question as me trying to understand / learn , not Questioning you 😀

thank you

 

[Lafong]

You last built in 2012. That implies you will likely want to stay with these parts for a long time. Nothing wrong with performance of liquid coolers, but they have longevity/maintenance issues not found in air coolers. If you were getting a 13900, liquid would be near mandatory; if you were getting a 13700, it would be a sensible option, a possibility. But you may have some over-riding inclination for liquid....if that is the case, go ahead.

Plausible decent quality PSUs are normally "full modular" or "semi modular"...neither of which is necessarily an indicator of quality. Either should work fine if acceptable quality otherwise. "Non-modular" is not often seen among better units.

 

[Why_Me]

So couple Questions , The monitor is same model but the one you link is 'newer' as i understand?
Why not Liquid cooler? And Case didn't have exhaust fan i guess , Is there an alternative to that Case? i am not fan of RBG anyways . Why the Ram change? And power supply is semi modular , Is it worth it over non modular of similar price? i saw NZXT C850 But not sure if its similar quality.

Please take these Question as me trying to understand / learn , not Questioning you 😀

thank you

That air cooler I posted cools better than most if not all 240 AIO's. AMD EXPO is AMD's version of Intel XMP. Modular means less cables to deal with inside your case. btw Seasonic manufactures that NZXT psu.

 

[acegaming90]

You last built in 2012. That implies you will likely want to stay with these parts for a long time. Nothing wrong with performance of liquid coolers, but they have longevity/maintenance issues not found in air coolers. If you were getting a 13900, liquid would be near mandatory; if you were getting a 13700, it would be a sensible option, a possibility. But you may have some over-riding inclination for liquid....if that is the case, go ahead.

Plausible decent quality PSUs are normally "full modular" or "semi modular"...neither of which is necessarily an indicator of quality. Either should work fine if acceptable quality otherwise. "Non-modular" is not often seen among better units.

Megekko.nl - Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 Full Modular V2 PSU / PC voeding

Koop nu de Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 Full Modular V2 PSU / PC voeding bij Megekko. Voor 22:30 besteld, morgen in huis! Ook op zondag!

www.megekko.nl

Megekko.nl - NZXT C850 PSU / PC voeding

Koop nu de NZXT C850 PSU / PC voeding bij Megekko. Voor 22:30 besteld, morgen in huis! Ook op zondag!

www.megekko.nl

Both are reasonable Quality and ok to go for?

 

[Lafong]

Megekko.nl - Bekijk alle PC voedingen - PC Voedingen PSU

Megekko.nl, Een voeding voor je computer selecteren is soms een lastige klus. Het is een essentieel onderdeel wat vaak over het hoofd wordt gezien. Toch is een stabiel...

www.megekko.nl

Are the above out of your budget?

 

[acegaming90]

Megekko.nl - Bekijk alle PC voedingen - PC Voedingen PSU

Megekko.nl, Een voeding voor je computer selecteren is soms een lastige klus. Het is een essentieel onderdeel wat vaak over het hoofd wordt gezien. Toch is een stabiel...

www.megekko.nl

Are the above out of your budget?

No , I could spend a little extra for quality

I am however confused about Monitors now , they both are same but not reeally? 😀