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ElectrO_90

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I know you are on a Budget, but if you can squeeze an extra $25 you can get the 240GB SSD - Kingston SA400S37/240G
Believe me, the extra space means you can at least use it as semi gaming as well as be a good size for the next 5 years.
I currently use 140GB of my Main Drive SSD. I am happy I upgraded to 250GB.
Also for a little more a 1050 would be a better card by about 25%
 
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I am a fair bit curious...any reason to go for the 1400 over the 1200/1300X? You could use the saved money towards a larger SSD etc.
Is the 1200 a ryzen 3 1200 and the 1300x a ryzen 3 1300x
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light years better:


PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PbHBvn
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PbHBvn/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($158.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($92.93 @ Amazon Australia)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($133.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card ($299.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($65.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $851.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-19 19:05 AEST+1000
 
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When you said
I am a fair bit curious...any reason to go for the 1400 over the 1200/1300X? You could use the saved money towards a larger SSD etc.
Is the 1200 a ryzen 3 1200 and the 1300x a ryzen 3 1300x
Thanks
 
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madmatt30

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Good build from maxalge there.


The ryzen 1400 in your original list is kind of pointless anyway when a ryzen 1600 is The same price.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($198.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($95.53 @ Amazon Australia)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($147.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB CERBERUS Video Card ($229.00 @ Umart)
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($45.00 @ Umart)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($75.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $913.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-19 19:22 AEST+1000
 
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madmatt30

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^ everything I did was based around getting you a bigger ssd & a better gpu for the same or similar budget.

Ram speeds ?? Unless you're running a 100htz+ screen & a high end gpu you will see very little (as in none)performance difference between 2400 & 3200mhz sticks.

Your build is fine but that rx 460 is a glaring weak point compared to the rest of the build.

Besides I don't think it's actually available anyway.
 
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Yours is better, I agree, but not perfect.
Yours is cheaper because you removed the SSD.
I'd still stick with AMD at least its upgradable by the beginning of next year, and wont be End Of Line once Intel release another new CPU....
 
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I still think you have a nice build now, but the Graphics card is a BIG let down, you got to move to 1050 at least, ideally the 1060, but that stretches the budget.
The order is rated in speed of GPU starting with slowest to fastest. With % quicker than the 460 http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-460-vs-AMD-RX-580/3641vs3923 website in games only -

460 = $120
1050 = $165 +4%
560 = $148 +9%
1050 ti = $238 +18%
1060 = $299 +56%
580 = $379 +63%

Again all comes down to budget as does everything....Maybe get the 560 and in 6 months/year get a better one
 
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Very good point there ElectrO...investing THAT MUCH into a CPU doesn't really make much sense, assuming that the OP is playing at 1080p60. Theres almost NO performance gains to be had, assuming that the 8100 is the equivalent of the 7400...https://www.techspot.com/review/1463-ryzen-3-gaming/

As for max's build, is it REALLY that much better of a gaming build? You need to remember that by sacrificing the SSD, the OP would be limited to stagnant HDD speeds...gaming on an HDD is one of the worst blows to an experience imo. OP, I understand that you may like ATX boards for their aesthetic/expandability, but I must emphasize to you that THEY ARE NOT WORTH THE MONEY in this scenario. While it IS true that you'll have either upgrade your board/RAM layout if you want 16 GB, 8 GB should still be fine for gaming for quite a while. I would recommend following this build:

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/G468ZR
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/G468ZR/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($139.00 @ Scorptec)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME A320M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($133.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.00 @ Umart)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card ($299.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($75.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $843.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-20 04:22 AEST+1000

Substituted the i3 for the 1200, although the i3 is undeniably good for gaming, if it's not above 60 FPS then the OP will be more GPU bound than CPU bound. Still retained that 3 GB 1060, definitely the right choice for higher-spec gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNoltJNvpew

It would be better to go for the SSD first, since you wouldn't have to reinstall windows. Not to mention, you could EASILY find a spare HDD in let's say your old PC, ebay, etc. The SSD makes a HUGE difference in game loading times. All in all, I think this is your best option at this point.
 
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