PC Case Cooling Issue

[ansh.bhatnagar]

I recently bought an RX 580 for my 1-year-old gaming rig replacing 1050 TI and there seem to be heating issues when playing games.

Although the card does not reach temps over 75C the fan is spinning over 2000 RPM and is quite noisy. When I opened the side panel I could feel a lot of hot air trapped inside the case. The temperature dropped as soon as I opened the side panel.

Observations:
CSGO - No noticeable heating issues while playing.
Deus Ex Mankind Divided - Problem when staying on the menu for around 10 mins.
Heaven Benchmark Tool - Problem when running benchmarks for around 5 mins.

I think the problem starts when the CPU usage is relatively low. Since the CPU is not getting hot the front case fans are running at low speeds.

Specs:
Graphics Card - Sapphire Pulse RX 580
Case - Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case
3 x 120mm PWM Front Case Fans
1 x 120mm PWM Exhaust Case Fan
Motherboard - MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4
Processor - Ryzen 5 1600

What works:
Keeping the front panel open. However cannot have it opened all the time as the case fans are mounted on the exterior and can get damaged by accident.

So few questions I had in mind:

Any chance there is something wrong with my new GPU?
Any ideas on how I can mod my front panel to provide better cooling?
Is it possible to set up the fan curves to pump in more air when the GPU is hot and not the CPU?

 

[TJ Hooker]

If you use a monitoring program (I like HWinfo64), you should be able to see temperatures such as "system" or "PCH" or something that can give you an idea of the temperature within your case. If you think the inside of your case is heating up too much, you could increase the case fan speeds.

What exact model of RX 580 do you have? You could adjust the fan profile to let it get to 80 C so the fans run a bit slower. I also recommend undervolting.

 

[ansh.bhatnagar]

If you use a monitoring program (I like HWinfo64), you should be able to see temperatures such as "system" or "PCH" or something that can give you an idea of the temperature within your case. If you think the inside of your case is heating up too much, you could increase the case fan speeds.

What exact model of RX 580 do you have? You could adjust the fan profile to let it get to 80 C so the fans run a bit slower. I also recommend undervolting.

Thanks for the quick reply.
I am using HWMonitor. I can see SYSTIN. Is this the one? It says 45C. Attached screenshot although I took it after opening the side panel.
The model is Sapphire Pulse RX 580. Should Radeon Wattman be used to adjust fan curve and undervolting?

Edit: The img tag does not seem to be working.
https://imgur.com/a/RxP0NYo

 

[TJ Hooker]

Not sure what SYSTIN is, but it might be something on the motherboard. Mainboard is probably an OK estimate of internal case temps too. I don't really know what the typical case temp is, but 45/50 C seems like it might be a little warm, especially if that's with the side panel off.

Yeah, I use Wattman for undervolting. I've never used it to adjust the fan profile myself, but you can give it a try. I'd undervolt first, you may end up not even needing to adjust the profile.

 

[ansh.bhatnagar]

Not sure what SYSTIN is, but it might be something on the motherboard. Mainboard is probably an OK estimate of internal case temps too. I don't really know what the typical case temp is, but 45/50 C seems like it might be a little warm, especially if that's with the side panel off.

Yeah, I use Wattman for undervolting. I've never used it to adjust the fan profile myself, but you can give it a try. I'd undervolt first, you may end up not even needing to adjust the profile.

I will look into it but feel a bit hesitant with changing the clocks to fix a problem considering it is a brand new GPU!
Wanted to understand what the source of the problem is before attempting this. Is this a common problem with RX580? Or is it my CM case?

 

[TJ Hooker]

I never suggested changing any clocks.

I'm not sure there's even 'wrong' with the card. Cards heat up under load, fans ramp up in response, sometimes to the point of being noisy. Heat/noise can vary dramatically from one model of card to another, so you can't generalize about RX 580s being noisy or quiet. The only reviews I can find of the Pulse state do state that the card is fairly quiet under load, but they don't specify the fan speed and they have different cases, possibly different ambient temperatures, and might not run the cards long enough for their case to heat up. And of course "quiet" is subjective, and depends on how far you are from the PC. What's your room temperature?

 

[ansh.bhatnagar]

I never suggested changing any clocks.

I'm not sure there's even 'wrong' with the card. Cards heat up under load, fans ramp up in response, sometimes to the point of being noisy. Heat/noise can vary dramatically from one model of card to another, so you can't generalize about RX 580s being noisy or quiet. The only reviews I can find of the Pulse state do state that the card is fairly quiet under load, but they don't specify the fan speed and they have different cases, possibly different ambient temperatures, and might not run the cards long enough for their case to heat up. And of course "quiet" is subjective, and depends on how far you are from the PC. What's your room temperature?

Sorry I meant to say changing voltage. Room temperature is 25C.

 

[TJ Hooker]

You can try contacting Sapphire customer support. Unfortunately I can't really say if that's normal behaviour for that card. I'd recommend increasing case fan speeds to try to keep your case interior a bit cooler, unless they're already at the point of being noisy.

Regarding undervolting, it isn't just a hack to try to try to work around an issue, it's pretty much always a good idea. My RX 580 was already cool and quiet, but I undervolted anyway because less heat and noise is always a plus, with lower power consumption to boot.

 

[ansh.bhatnagar]

You can try contacting Sapphire customer support. Unfortunately I can't really say if that's normal behaviour for that card. I'd recommend increasing case fan speeds to try to keep your case interior a bit cooler, unless they're already at the point of being noisy.

Regarding undervolting, it isn't just a hack to try to try to work around an issue, it's pretty much always a good idea. My RX 580 was already cool and quiet, but I undervolted anyway because less heat and noise is always a plus, with lower power consumption to boot.

Ok will try contacting Sapphire. Increasing case fan speed should not be a problem since they are very silent. The problem is the GPU fan being noisy.
Did not know that about undervolting. Will give it a try. Thanks!

 

[TJ Hooker]

The GPU must exchange heat with the air in your case. If the air in your case is hot, it will not absorb heat from your GPU as well, so the GPU fans must work harder. Cooling down your case might help cool down your GPU, thus allowing the GPU fans to run lower.