[SOLVED] PC Compatibility Check

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Hi all, I’m planning on building my first PC and I’m unsure as to whether or not my parts are compatible.

Processor: i7 6700k

Motherboard: MSI Performance Gaming AMD Ryzen 1st and 2nd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Gaming Plus)

GPU: PNY GTX 1060 3gb

Memory: 16gb (one stick) DDR4 2666mhz

Case: Deepcool Tesseract SW-BK Black Window Mid-tower Case

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Storage: Samsung 860 EVO SATA III 500gb SSD

Power Supply: Corsair VS series 450 Watt Power Supply


Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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This list includes the cheapest available motherboard that supports both the CPU and the RAM speed. Also, I'd strongly urge you to get the 1660 Ti... It has a much better FPS and isn't actually much more expensive. (Only things changed from your list are GPU and motherboard)
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($316.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB...
no, the motherboard you just wrote clearly states RYZEN, which is amd, while a i7 6700k is intel

also, that power supply is only 450W which SHOULD be enough, but i would go for 500 or 550 at minimum.
other than that, it looks fine.

as for what motherboard, do you plan on overclocking or no?
 

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the motherboard and cpu arent compatible but you can use this handy website to see if your build is compatible with one another.

https://pcpartpicker.com/

also for powersupply id suggest getting something like the Corsair AX, AXi or HX, HXi or their RM , RMi series or seasonic focus plus gold. they are quality psu units that should not destroy your very first pc build.
the VS lineup are low quality and quite old units so its best to avoid them.


also one last thing your CPU is on the higher end compared to your graphics card id recommend getting something better like 1660/1660ti or even 2060 or you can also chose from amd like the vega 56 which is also a great card to pair with your cpu.
 

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I don’t plan on overclocking, and for the power supply, how is the Corsair CX 650 watt?

As for the graphics card, I plan on upgrading in the future. I also checked on bottleneck calculator, which says that the bottleneck is at 0.19 percent, which should be fine.

As for the motherboard, is the MSI B360M PRO-VD m-ATX Intel Coffee Lake fine?
 
The CX 650 should be a good choice.
I doubt that the bottleneck calculator has got that right. The i7 is definitely too high end for the GPU. Although low end, that motherboard will at least be compatible with the CPU.

There were some other problems with the build though:
• 1 16GB stick of RAM will be a lot slower than 2 8GB sticks, as 2 sticks send data to the CPU at dual the bandwidth.
• High end SATA SSDs are a lot slower and a lot more expensive than low end NVMe SSDs like the Intel 660p

What country are you in, what is your budget, and is the PC intended to be used for gaming? We'll be happy to make a list based around the parts you have already listed that is tweaked to get the best out of what you need.
 

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Thanks, Conan! I can swap out the 1 stick of ram for 2 sticks. I’ll also get an Intel 660p 512gb SSD. I live in Canada, my budget is around 1100 to 1200 Canadian dollars, or 830 to 900 USD, and yes the pc will be used for gaming. Thanks a lot for doing for this for me!
 

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how much are you getting your cpu and gpu for?

the 6700k so far by searching online sells for around ~300USD which is expensive for an old cpu, with that said just add a bit more and you can get a 8700k instead which is a better steal at around 340USD.

theres also AMD ryzen for cheaper too.

but if you can get them for far less then you can go for your ideal build just keeping in mind the dual channel ram and probably the SSD but id just recommend an average ssd along with a 1tb or 2tb HDD for storage.
nvme ssd are good but for games you really wont notice a difference in load times personally its better to even it out that you have access to atleast 500gb of ssd for your OS and probably some games (like in my case i keep Anthem on my nvme drive while i keep some games like Far cry 5 and FFXV on my HDD)
but its up to you.


but yea rx 580 isnt really a good pair with an i7 6700k or any high end cpu for that matter. you would have a far better experience with a mid range cpu (ryzen 3600 or 2nd gen ryzen 2600/2700) and a faster graphics card like vega 56, or GTX 1660/ti or even a rtx 2060. also which resolution do you plan on playing at?
 

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There is a listing on eBay that’s selling the 6700k for 269 USD, which in my opinion isn’t bad deal. Also, I don’t plan on overclocking and so the 6700k will actually be faster than the 8700k with a clock speed of 4 ghz instead of 3.7 ghz.

As for storage, I really don’t need 2 tb, or even 1 tb for that matter, as I don’t plan on keeping videos or other large files and I usually only play 1 or 2 games for the most part. I’ll just stick to the 500gb ssd. I have decided to take up your advice on getting a better graphics card though, is the gtx 1660 ti OC 6gb a good match for the 6700k? Gigabyte is selling it for 357 Canadian dollars, or 269 USD, on Amazon. As for my resolution, I’ll probably be playing at 1920x1080.
 

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How about this:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DVXQjy

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($265.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Gaming X ATX AM4 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($105.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB Phoenix OC Video Card ($359.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($107.80 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1084.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 07:40 EDT-0400

Just make sure the B450 mobo comes with the bios updated to take Ryzen Zen 2 CPU
 

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There is a listing on eBay that’s selling the 6700k for 269 USD, which in my opinion isn’t bad deal. Also, I don’t plan on overclocking and so the 6700k will actually be faster than the 8700k with a clock speed of 4 ghz instead of 3.7 ghz.

As for storage, I really don’t need 2 tb, or even 1 tb for that matter, as I don’t plan on keeping videos or other large files and I usually only play 1 or 2 games for the most part. I’ll just stick to the 500gb ssd. I have decided to take up your advice on getting a better graphics card though, is the gtx 1660 ti OC 6gb a good match for the 6700k? Gigabyte is selling it for 357 Canadian dollars, or 269 USD, on Amazon. As for my resolution, I’ll probably be playing at 1920x1080.
Couple of things to be aware of here, 6700k is most definitely not quicker than an 8700k, 8700k will turbo up to 4.7Ghz and is two generations newer so will have improved everything. Always go for the newest generation of CPU, they don't tend to get any cheaper the older they are and they are most definitely slower. As others have pointed out i7 is overkill for the GPU you're looking at and will be very underutilised. Would suggest i5 or Ryzen 5 (zen 2 don't get zen 1) for your system.
 

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Or this if you prefer intel:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/D3nvLJ

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($184.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($105.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB Phoenix OC Video Card ($359.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($107.80 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1103.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 07:53 EDT-0400

If you want to future proof either choice a bit you could push to i5-9600k or Ryzen 5 3600x on the AMD side. Both should last a good few years for gaming and should handle a future upgrade in GPU in a few years time.
 
I'd personally recommend going with Ryzen for your build. Something like this would do great, and has good upgradability to keep it going for at least 6+ years.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($265.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($210.24 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB OC Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($103.99 @ PC-Canada)
Total: $1151.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 05:49 EDT-0400


However, on the Intel side, something like this would do well too:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($316.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB OC Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($103.99 @ PC-Canada)
Total: $1172.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 08:27 EDT-0400
 
Any of the above builds would be considerably better than the 6700k you were thinking about. But just incase you do go for the 6700k, that b360 motherboard you chose is not compatible. It's a 8th/9th gen board, not 6th.

I would highly consider one of the ryzen builds linked above as they will be great rigs!
 
To expand a bit on why an i7-6700K probably isn't your best option at this point, Intel released that CPU in 2015, and since then AMD launched their Ryzen CPUs with competitive performance and significantly more cores and threads for the money. Intel responded by increasing their core counts at any given price point for their 8th-gen processors, and as a result, an i5-8600K (6-cores, 6-threads) offers very similar gaming performance to an i7-7700K (4-core, 8-threads), while costing less, and the newer i5-9600K is slightly faster still. The 8th-gen i7s offer 6-cores with 12-threads, and the 9th-gen i7s offer 8-cores with 8-threads.

As for the clock rates, those are just the base clocks you are looking at, and even if you are not overclocking, all these processors will automatically switch to higher boost clocks under load, depending on how many cores are active and the temperature the processor is running at. In general, those base clocks are not all that relevant unless the processor is overheating.

The 3000-series AMD Ryzen processors tend to offer competitive performance per clock to Intel's offerings, but generally slightly lower boost clocks. The Ryzen 3600 offers the same 6-cores and 12-threads as an i7-8700, and should be pretty close in terms of gaming performance, and allow you to put more of your budget toward graphics hardware, which will make more a performance difference in most games.
 

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i agree i was about to point out using an amd ryzen 3rd gen like the 3600 (non x) for better bang for your buck you can also just go for an 8700k which is faster in every sense of the word if you want to go intel for almost the same price. (but you are stuck with a lower end mid range card with a very high end cpu which is not ideal)

but having a ryzen r5 3600 can fetch you something as good as vega 56 (with this you clearly dont have to upgrade to anything for a while and you can even do high refresh rate 1080p with this).



PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($265.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB Red Dragon Video Card ($421.65 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($116.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1172.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available



just be aware that you need to actually do an update on your BIOS for the b450-f to be compatible with the r5 3600. but if you can find some good deals on gigabyte or asus x570 boards you can get the to save you the hassle of actually updating but you can always let some retailer or computer retailer to actually do a BIOS update for you.
 

Tartarnos

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Thanks for the help everyone! Right now, I'm planning on going with this build

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TXFNJ8

CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($316.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB GAMING X Video Card ($337.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1161.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 13:00 EDT-0400

One question though, are there any cheaper alternatives for the motherboard? I don't plan to overclock, and I don't need any more than 2 slots for ram. If possible, I really want to push the total down to $1100.
 
This list includes the cheapest available motherboard that supports both the CPU and the RAM speed. Also, I'd strongly urge you to get the 1660 Ti... It has a much better FPS and isn't actually much more expensive. (Only things changed from your list are GPU and motherboard)
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($316.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB OC Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1128.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 13:19 EDT-0400


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