Question Pc hanging on boot

[bhkem]

Ive been running into issues booting my old pc and im stumped.

I recently removed the graphics card from an old pc and after putting it back in when i try to boot the computer it hangs while booting.

I've tested it with an ssd and hdd that were working previously. When launching using the ssd it displays the motherboard logo with a loading wheel that spins endlessly. I have tried reinstalling windows on the ssd and it gets to the point where the pc restarts then gets stuck on the same screen as before.

With the HDD it gets stuck on a screen with the windows logo and a spinning loading wheel. After I power it off windows tries and fails to perform recovery. I am able to successfully boot into safe mode using the HDD.

I've tried:

disabling c-state

enabling tpm

removing and reseating all components excluding the cpu (i dont have any thermal paste)

using the gpu in another computer (ran without issue)

using the ssd in another computer (can view files on it but it does not have windows installed so I could not test booting from it)

launching without peripherals.

Im pretty lost on what to try so if anybody has any suggestions id be appreciative.


PC is very old so I don't remember the makes of all components but heres what I could find out:
CPU: Amd Ryzen 5 3600 processor
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 1060
Hdd: Seagate (unsure of model)
Ssd: Kingston (unsure of model)
MotherBoard: Asus ROG Strix B450-F
PSU: Antec 360b
RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4

 

[COLGeek]

What are the complete specs (make/model of ALL installed components) for this rig? Folks need to know what we are working with.

 

[bhkem]

What are the complete specs (make/model of ALL installed components) for this rig? Folks need to know what we are working with.

Updated the description to include the parts I could find out but a lot of them were bought ~10 years ago so I dont remember/cant find the models

 

[COLGeek]

The 3600 lacks an integrated GPU, so this system must have a GPU installed to do anything.

What is the make/model of the power supply (look in case at label on side of PSU)?

Have you reset the BIOS to its default state at any point?

 

[bhkem]

The 3600 lacks an integrated GPU, so this system must have a GPU installed to do anything.

What is the make/model of the power supply (look in case at label on side of PSU)?

Have you reset the BIOS to its default state at any point?

Sorry i think my wording was unclear. I did not try booting without gpu or cpu I removed and then reseated the components. The Power Supply is an Antec 380d.
I have also found the make of the RAM so i think that should be all of the components.

 

[COLGeek]

Sorry i think my wording was unclear. I did not try booting without gpu or cpu I removed and then reseated the components. The Power Supply is an Antec 380d

I would replace that and see if it changes system behavior.

Once the PSU is swapped. Reset the BIOS to its default state. After resetting BIOS, make sure the desired default boot device is set in your BIOS).

What OS are you running?

 

[bhkem]

I would replace that and see if it changes system behavior.

Once the PSU is swapped. Reset the BIOS to its default state. After resetting BIOS, make sure the desired default boot device is set in your BIOS).

What OS are you running?

I dont have any spare components so if possible I want to avoid buying new parts for as long as possible.
I also would have imagined if it is a PSU issue then I would have been unable to boot into safe mode?

I am running windows 10 on the hdd and windows 11 on the ssd.

 

[COLGeek]

Does either OS start properly?

 

[bhkem]

Does either OS start properly?

Neither is launching properly.
I can boot the windows 10 device in safe mode but I do not have a fully installed windows 11 device to test safe mode on.

 

[beyondlogic]

Ive been running into issues booting my old pc and im stumped.

I recently removed the graphics card from an old pc and after putting it back in when i try to boot the computer it hangs while booting.

I've tested it with an ssd and hdd that were working previously. When launching using the ssd it displays the motherboard logo with a loading wheel that spins endlessly. I have tried reinstalling windows on the ssd and it gets to the point where the pc restarts then gets stuck on the same screen as before.

With the HDD it gets stuck on a screen with the windows logo and a spinning loading wheel. After I power it off windows tries and fails to perform recovery. I am able to successfully boot into safe mode using the HDD.

I've tried:

disabling c-state

enabling tpm

removing and reseating all components excluding the cpu (i dont have any thermal paste)

using the gpu in another computer (ran without issue)

using the ssd in another computer (can view files on it but it does not have windows installed so I could not test booting from it)

launching without peripherals.

Im pretty lost on what to try so if anybody has any suggestions id be appreciative.


PC is very old so I don't remember the makes of all components but heres what I could find out:
CPU: Amd Ryzen 5 3600 processor
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 1060
Hdd: Seagate (unsure of model)
Ssd: Kingston (unsure of model)
MotherBoard: Asus ROG Strix B450-F
PSU: Antec 360b
RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4

fully remove cmos battery and replace with another battery.

turn off power supply hold down the power button on the pc for exactly 1-2 minutes pc may flicker to life this is normal if theres left over charge in the capactitors it can cause a short or boot issue. holding power button drains all the capacitors.

 

[COLGeek]

Neither is launching properly.
I can boot the windows 10 device in safe mode but I do not have a fully installed windows 11 device to test safe mode on.

Did either OS ever boot properly in this hardware baseline?

 

[bhkem]

fully remove cmos battery and replace with another battery.

turn off power supply hold down the power button on the pc for exactly 1-2 minutes pc may flicker to life this is normal if theres left over charge in the capactitors it can cause a short or boot issue. holding power button drains all the capacitors.

I dont have access to a spare CMOS battery currently but I will test this later.

Trying the second suggestion made no difference.

 

[bhkem]

Did either OS ever boot properly in this hardware baseline?

Im assuming hardware baseline means the configuration of parts that im using?

The computer was working for 5-8 years with the hdd. I then replaced the hdd with the ssd and it worked without issue for a week. I then removed the gpu to test in another pc and when i put it back i started to have issues booting.

 

[beyondlogic]

I dont have access to a spare CMOS battery currently but I will test this later.

Trying the second suggestion made no difference.

how many ram sticks ? and are they in slots 2 and 4.

 

[beyondlogic]

Im assuming hardware baseline means the configuration of parts that im using?

The computer was working for 5-8 years with the hdd. I then replaced the hdd with the ssd and it worked without issue for a week. I then removed the gpu to test in another pc and when i put it back i started to have issues booting.

other cmos method.

A CMOS reset (clearing the BIOS settings) can sometimes resolve boot issues. To do this, unplug the computer, remove the CMOS battery, and short the CMOS clear pins for about 10 seconds.


also if you never did a clean install on the ssd and it was a cloned over it can cause driver issues.

 

[bhkem]

how many ram sticks ? and are they in slots 2 and 4.

initially I had 2 ram sticks which were in slots A2 and B2 but currently there is only one stick in slot A2 as I tried booting with each stick individually

 

[bhkem]

other cmos method.

A CMOS reset (clearing the BIOS settings) can sometimes resolve boot issues. To do this, unplug the computer, remove the CMOS battery, and short the CMOS clear pins for about 10 seconds.


also if you never did a clean install on the ssd and it was a cloned over it can cause driver issues.

I tried the CMOS reset earlier without success.
The ssd was working previously but once I started having issues I attempted reinstalling windows which was unsucessful.

 

[bhkem]

It looks like i can run regular safe mode but safe mode with networking fails to boot. Maybe theres a problem with the network device in my motherboard?