PC not full preformance

[justin49088]

3 Days ago I noticed that whenever I come home from school and turn on my PC its not running games that well. After I restart it however, it runs games fine. OCed GPU and CPU.

PC:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jpb29J

 

[Barty1884]

Can you elaborate on "not running games that well"? Does your frame-rate tank? Or stuttering etc?

At a glance, that rig is never going to run games as well as it possibly could, as it's going to be limited (a lot of the time) by the single-channel, slower speeds of that DDR4 module.

But if you're comparing the same rig before/after a restart, that's not what we're addressing here.

 

[justin49088]

Can you elaborate on "not running games that well"? Does your frame-rate tank? Or stuttering etc?

At a glance, that rig is never going to run games as well as it possibly could, as it's going to be limited (a lot of the time) by the single-channel, slower speeds of that DDR4 module.

But if you're comparing the same rig before/after a restart, that's not what we're addressing here.

fps low but when i restart fps high

 

[jankerson]

Well....

That PC has a few issues.

Ram isn't a dual channel Kit, only a single stick and slow 2400 DDR4.

No SSD for the main drive.

HD is SLOW 5400 RPM.

PSU is a low quality unit and pushing it wattage wise.

GPU is the 3GB 1060 vers, much slower than the 6GB vers.

I am not at all surprised on how it performs.

 

[Barty1884]

fps low but when i restart fps high

Strange. Are you monitoring temperatures? Do you have "active" hours to install updates etc? Has this happened quite a few times? Or just a handful recently? Could be a coincedence, just coinciding with Windows updates etc...

Well....

That PC has a few issues.

Ram isn't a dual channel Kit, only a single stick.

No SSD for the main drive.

HD is SLOW 5400 RPM.

PSU is a low quality unit and pushing it wattage wise.

I am not at all surprised on how it performs.

While I agree, the system definitely has areas it could be improved on.... if the system is "fine" after a restart (and the single channel, no SSD etc is the benchmark expected) ,I wouldn't anticipate any of those being the culprit.


The PSU is a possibility. It's a budget unit... although far from the worst.
The <750W variants of the B3 are only rated for 40'c..... what's your ambient in the room? The system isn't tucked in a poorly ventilated corner of a room or anything, is it?

"pushing it wattage wise." might be a stretch, but depends on the scope of OCing.

The 1400 should tap out at it's max clocks at stock voltage.... so not likely to have much/any additional strain.
The 1060 shouldn't have too much headroom and should hit a thermal wall before enough additional voltage is applied to it to push beyond the capabilities of the 450W B3.

 

[jankerson]

fps low but when i restart fps high

Strange. Are you monitoring temperatures? Do you have "active" hours to install updates etc? Has this happened quite a few times? Or just a handful recently? Could be a coincedence, just coinciding with Windows updates etc...

Well....

That PC has a few issues.

Ram isn't a dual channel Kit, only a single stick.

No SSD for the main drive.

HD is SLOW 5400 RPM.

PSU is a low quality unit and pushing it wattage wise.

I am not at all surprised on how it performs.

While I agree, the system definitely has areas it could be improved on.... if the system is "fine" after a restart (and the single channel, no SSD etc is the benchmark expected) ,I wouldn't anticipate any of those being the culprit.


The PSU is a possibility. It's a budget unit... although far from the worst.
"pushing it wattage wise." might be a stretch, but depends on the scope of OCing.

The 1400 should tap out at it's max clocks at stock voltage.... so not likely to have much/any additional strain.
The 1060 shouldn't have too much headroom and should hit a thermal wall before enough additional voltage is applied to it to push beyond the capabilities of the 450W B3.

The ram and HD are killing that system, both need improvements.

5400 RPM HD's are pathetically slow.

PSU upgrade wouldn't hurt either.

And he is OCing… LOL

 

[Barty1884]

Agreed, but we're not talking theoretical performance here :lol:

We're talking performance of that specific hardware, performs dramatically different at different times of the day.
We're not comparing that sometimes it has 2x4GB 3000MHz and other times it has 1x8GB 2400MHz :lol:

 

[jankerson]

Agreed, but we're not talking theoretical performance here :lol:

We're talking performance of that specific hardware, performs dramatically different at different times of the day.
We're not comparing that sometimes it has 2x4GB 3000MHz and other times it has 1x8GB 2400MHz :lol:

Restarting the PC is a huge clue...

With that setup the way it is there will be issues.

 

[Barty1884]

True.

OP, remove your OC's for a day. See if the issues persist after school.

 

[justin49088]

True.

OP, remove your OC's for a day. See if the issues persist after school.

im pretty sure hard drive speed doesn't mean that much

 

[Barty1884]

In titles that load/save frequently, or load in textures etc, it certainly can - but generally speaking, once a (modern) title is loaded, the actual drive, assuming it's healthy, shouldn't impact things too much.

 

[jankerson]

True.

OP, remove your OC's for a day. See if the issues persist after school.

im pretty sure hard drive speed doesn't mean that much

It can mean a lot depending, you only have 8GB of ram and not running in Dual Channel. You only have one stick.... More than likely you will have to buy a Dual Channel 16 GB kit to upgrade because the ram won't work together if you buy another 8GB stick. And you didn't buy higher end ram in the 1st place so that lessons the chance even more.

The GPU only has 3GB of ram, and it's slower than the 6GB vers.

5400 RPM is very SLOW for a HD.

Everything matters.

The things we pointed out handicap the performance.


The things you cut corners on directly impact performance so like I said I am not surprised at all.


You didn't balance out the configuration, was no give and take, you just cut and that was a mistake.

 

[jankerson]

In titles that load/save frequently, or load in textures etc, it certainly can - but generally speaking, once a (modern) title is loaded, the actual drive, assuming it's healthy, shouldn't impact things too much.

One thing that we pointed out if it was only one thing he might get away with it, maybe depending on what it was.

But everything combined?

Too many performance hits once they all add up.