PC partpicker build VS Newegg Supercombo

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So basically I'm going to be buying my Gaming PC pretty soon, I'm basically in my final stages. My specs require me to have both a good CPU and a good GPU.. The games I plan on playing (Arma, GTA, Battlefront 3, World of Warships, War thunder ETC.)So basically I require an Intel CPU, no questions asked, I will never go AMD. I need it to stay in 680 and below range, preferably below so I can get it sooner. I just want thoughts and suggestions, and obviously changes if need be. Thanks 😀 !
PC PartPicker: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pqt9Q7
Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2295511
 
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I'm not a fan of the newegg supercombos, but the PSU is better than the CX in your pcpartpicker build.

Here is what I would get for less than $700:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Xion XON-560 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.98 @ Newegg)
Other: Windows 10 Preview
Total: $666.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-17 17:08 EDT-0400

Edit: found some snipers on discount.
 
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Why I3? My games are going to be CPU intensive
 
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I know, I'm actually preparing to order in a month, I did a little more research and finally came up with why not the best of both worlds. It's my first build, so really nerve racking that I wll screw something up. Sorry dude, just trying to get everything right... http://pcpartpicker.com/p/86vdYJ
 
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The build I gave you yesterday is still better than the one you just posted. And if you want to raise your budget to $720 I can still make further mods to it to improve it even further. An intel S processor is a bad idea because it's just a lower power use and less performance accordingly, and you got a Z series board, which is meant for overclocking, something an S can't do. It's okay to be trying to build properly but you're kind of ignoring advice people are giving you.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($178.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 400W ATX Power Supply ($24.00 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.09 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N150UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($13.49 @ OutletPC)
Total: $637.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-15 18:50 EDT-0400[/quotemsg]
 
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See the thing is I'm trying not to go cheap, I want reliable over money, but in a reasonable range. I immeiitly look at the reviews of some of those products and they are flat out bad... I took some of your advice, and this is the outcome http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M6MMdC Please tell me what you think.
 
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That's fine, but you need tell us your actual hard budget. And did you read reviews about that seagate? cause if you had it's well known they have a fairly high failure rate. What parts specifically are getting these bad reviews, did you look at the good reviews, are you sure these aren't one off bad reviews, or shipping errors?
 
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I personally want 650, but i do however understand that a little more money means a better system. It was the case and GPU (newegg reviews). I'm also a tad confused on weither to choose a micro ATX or just an ATX. Seems like micro ATXs are cheaper, I'm not sure on dependibility.
 
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Here's the best I can do while also meeting your needs. The GPU is the better and much better reviewed MSI 960. The case is the one you chose. The CPU and Mobo you chose are good, but only if you're going to OC which is for more advanced users and will also require you to spend money on an Aftermarket cooler. The ram is just spending more money than necessary. And Corsair CX's are somewhat unreliable as far as PSUs go. XFX is widely known as one of the highest quality PSU makers, and that's because they sell Seasonic PSUs, Seasonic also sells PSUs themselves but they're abit out of your price range. Everything here is good and reliable, while not spending money on things that are unnecessary. (The case is like 90% personal preference, Cougar Spike is just the cheapest best reviewed case, and if you can save money anywhere, it's usually the case.)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($186.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H97M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($208.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.09 @ Newegg)
Total: $725.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-17 19:43 EDT-0400
 
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Is it possible you can bring it back to the 600 dollar range? I live in Florida, so I require the EVGA card due to the best cooling system it seems like. I plan on not overclocking.
 
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Check this benchmarks and check if the R9 290 will out perform the GTX 960 by a big margin in the games you play. If it does, you might consider expending a bit more to get it. In your place I would go with the r9. But the damric's build have two problems, the final price include rebates, so the price you will pay up from will be 706$, not 666$, and a single SSD might be too small unless you have another HDD or you will buy one in a one or two months.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6950/evga-geforce-gtx-960-supersc-acx-2-video-card-review/index7.html
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6354/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-4gb-tri-x-oc-video-card-review-with-4k-tests-/index8.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-review-our-first-custom-cooled-290/3


R9 290 + i5

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($186.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.54 @ Amazon)
Total: $732.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-17 19:54 EDT-0400


GTX 960 + i5

I selected a better GPU, and added combo CPU+Board,


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($186.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($199.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.54 @ Amazon)
Total: $672.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-17 19:35 EDT-0400


i5+r9 290 (cheaper version)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($186.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $688.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-17 20:10 EDT-0400

The PSU from this build is not going to destroy your computer, far from it (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/16/evga_500b_500w_power_supply_review/9, rated Tier Three http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html) but if you chose this build, I suggest you to get this PSU instead: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9 price would go up to 707$
 
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C7hvkL I like the second build. I however don't think the PSU is reliable, so maybe like a cosair, or a reliable company, that's like well known
 
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Because the i3 is just as fast in almost all games as the i5. By cutting the fat, you open room for luxuries like a faster graphics card and storage, for a much faster platform as a whole. The ONLY instance where the i5 is measurably faster than the i3 is during synthetics where all 4 logical cores are churning 100%. In that instance, the i3 takes about a 15% penalty due to having synthetic cores. For gaming, they are almost always the same because of the way DX9/10/11 doesn't balance work loads.

This review explains rather well. Even a monkey could understand this monkey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXPK9doyMLg

 
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He's testing games that arent really CPU intensive. I'm going for Arma 3 60 Frames. I put it in the PC to see heres how it looks http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VpmNFT
 
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After using ICPs build and your build I finally came up with this, http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jn88wP , what do you think?
 
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nicely done, but this gave me some ideas too :)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cpFmHx

changing to E3 1231v3 will give you better performance

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1231+v3+%40+3.40GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4690K+%40+3.50GHz

I think the 1231 will be more future proof then the 4690k, having more virtual cores. the day some game producer decide to ask for 5 or more cores to star his game (some games today requires 4) the i5 will be useless.

Unless you want or like to overclock the E3 looks better
 
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I just changed the case i prefer the I5, though, I am not sure if this compatibility issue means anything http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8cCCVn "Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports."
 
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That compatibility issue does not make your parts unable to work together, it will "only" make you unable to use the USB 3.0 header/connector that your motherboard have. Here some cases that have usb 3.0 and that are similar to the one you select (all have removable bays):

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/inwin-case-g7
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax-case-eca3253bl
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/raidmax-case-atx249b
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax-case-eca3253br
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logisys-case-cs369bk
 
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I changed my CPU due to it's basically the same just like -4 FPS in Arma http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rksMdC so that i can get a beter case and save money... How does it look? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KHDnJx
 
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My bad wrong link, heres the actual one : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rksMdC
 
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yes it will fit any of those cases, that GPU is only 10.12" (257mm) long, normally only GPU with 3 fans have problems fitting a atx mid tower.

And all those cases will support high end GPU with 3 fans if you remove part of the HDD bay.

No compatibility issues.
 
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