News PC prices up at least 15%: Trump Tariffs may hurt U.S. system integrators most

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[bigdragon]

Ouch. I don't think this latest round of tariffs is going to get rolled back, and I think executives are going to assume trade policy will change in 4 years with a different administration. I think companies will wait out current US economic policy. Looks like the smart move is to buy what you want in the electronics sector now. If you think you're going to want a new SSD, more RAM, or a new case in October, then buy it now instead of waiting.

 

[Notton]

Ah, so this is what it must have felt like to live with the Zimbabwe Dollar and it's hyperinflation causing uncertainty.

 

[lmcnabney]

Tariffs + GPU pricing = DOA PC gaming

This will push the cost of exceeding console performance at almost $2k.

 

[blppt]

Tariffs + GPU pricing = DOA PC gaming

This will push the cost of exceeding console performance at almost $2k.

I would expect that console pricing would rise as well since they have GPUs in them too.

 

[ex_bubblehead]

As there have been a couple of expulsions from the thread it's time to remind everyone that politics of ANY kind are NOT to be brought into these threads. If you feel the need to post such, don't, not even a hint.

 

[Flayed]

It says prices are up at least 20% on the article but then it says 15% on the forum. I'm confused is it 20% or 15%?

 

[artk2219]

Given these, changes, I wonder how many system integrators and parts manufacturers wont be in the space anymore in the next few years. Since it looks like people will likely be buying less going forward, these policies may lead to a decent sized contraction. If you have some money available, I guess it looks like it'll be a nice time to buy stocks, if you don't, yeah.

 

[lmcnabney]

I would expect that console pricing would rise as well since they have GPUs in them too.

Tariffs yes, but both Sony and MS have set contracts and prices with AMD.

 

[SSGBryan]

As there have been a couple of expulsions from the thread it's time to remind everyone that politics of ANY kind are NOT to be brought into these threads. If you feel the need to post such, don't, not even a hint.

You do understand that this is an inherently political, right?

 

[ex_bubblehead]

You do understand that this is an inherently political, right?

Thus the warnings.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

“In general B&H’s overarching and guiding principle is to be patient and not worry,” Senior Business Development Executive Steve Honickman told us back in March.

And this is exactly what people should do, because these tariffs aren't permanent, they're subject to change at any time in negotiation. Partly they're political in nature, and should change as negotiations with individual countries take place, but I believe like some others they are primarily intended to attempt to force the hand of the Fed to lower interest rates faster, something they said they would not do.

Yes it sucks seeing your investment portfolio crater, I know mine took a four digit hit today, and other effects, but it's also worth remembering that in the USA we already pay a lower price on many things than other countries do due to their own tariffs and taxes. The 9800X3D in the UK, for example, using overclockers.co.uk and Newegg for prices, is £450 after VAT, or $590, whereas we pay $480. Gasoline in the UK is £1.32/$1.73 per liter average (rac.co.uk, prices at supermarkets), or $6.55 per gallon, whereas in the USA it's $3.10. Even in the USA you see differences on many goods between states like California with their state-specific taxes vs states without them.

So yeah, just sit back, be patient, and don't worry, and be grateful the USA doesn't have permanent VAT that other countries do, and I say this as someone who makes under the median salary in my state.

 

[artk2219]

And this is exactly what people should do, because these tariffs aren't permanent, they're subject to change at any time in negotiation. Partly they're political in nature, and should change as negotiations with individual countries take place, but I believe like some others they are primarily intended to attempt to force the hand of the Fed to lower interest rates faster, something they said they would not do.

Yes it sucks seeing your investment portfolio crater, I know mine took a four digit hit today, and other effects, but it's also worth remembering that in the USA we already pay a lower price on many things than other countries do due to their own tariffs and taxes. The 9800X3D in the UK, for example, using overclockers.co.uk and Newegg for prices, is £450 after VAT, or $590, whereas we pay $480. Gasoline in the UK is £1.32/$1.73 per liter average (rac.co.uk, prices at supermarkets), or $6.55 per gallon, whereas in the USA it's $3.10. Even in the USA you see differences on many goods between states like California with their state-specific taxes vs states without them.

So yeah, just sit back, be patient, and don't worry, and be grateful the USA doesn't have permanent VAT that other countries do, and I say this as someone who makes under the median salary in my state.

This just reads as a bad justification for bad policy, good policy should not first inflict uneeded harm. It's also a bad negotiating tactic, sure you may get some people to talk to you now, but it'll drive them away in the long run. It's generally short sighted, and not well thought out for the long term.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

And this is exactly what people should do, because these tariffs aren't permanent, they're subject to change at any time in negotiation. Partly they're political in nature, and should change as negotiations with individual countries take place, but I believe like some others they are primarily intended to attempt to force the hand of the Fed to lower interest rates faster, something they said they would not do.

Yes it sucks seeing your investment portfolio crater, I know mine took a four digit hit today, and other effects, but it's also worth remembering that in the USA we already pay a lower price on many things than other countries do due to their own tariffs and taxes. The 9800X3D in the UK, for example, using overclockers.co.uk and Newegg for prices, is £450 after VAT, or $590, whereas we pay $480. Gasoline in the UK is £1.32/$1.73 per liter average (rac.co.uk, prices at supermarkets), or $6.55 per gallon, whereas in the USA it's $3.10. Even in the USA you see differences on many goods between states like California with their state-specific taxes vs states without them.

So yeah, just sit back, be patient, and don't worry, and be grateful the USA doesn't have permanent VAT that other countries do, and I say this as someone who makes under the median salary in my state.

Also with B&H their store card gives more cash back (state sales tax off instantly) vs Amazon's (5% future credit) despite doing a fraction of their sales.

 

[crostini]

You do understand that this is an inherently political, right?

He's the mod. He works hard. For free.

I wish we had an anything goes political forum on articles like these. Like the 2000s. It'd be fun. Everything is so sterile and padded now.

 

[Loadedaxe]

And this is exactly what people should do, because these tariffs aren't permanent, they're subject to change at any time in negotiation. Partly they're political in nature, and should change as negotiations with individual countries take place, but I believe like some others they are primarily intended to attempt to force the hand of the Fed to lower interest rates faster, something they said they would not do.

Yes it sucks seeing your investment portfolio crater, I know mine took a four digit hit today, and other effects, but it's also worth remembering that in the USA we already pay a lower price on many things than other countries do due to their own tariffs and taxes. The 9800X3D in the UK, for example, using overclockers.co.uk and Newegg for prices, is £450 after VAT, or $590, whereas we pay $480. Gasoline in the UK is £1.32/$1.73 per liter average (rac.co.uk, prices at supermarkets), or $6.55 per gallon, whereas in the USA it's $3.10. Even in the USA you see differences on many goods between states like California with their state-specific taxes vs states without them.

So yeah, just sit back, be patient, and don't worry, and be grateful the USA doesn't have permanent VAT that other countries do, and I say this as someone who makes under the median salary in my state.

This, the sky is not falling.
More people around me the world pay a whole lot more for goods than the US, it has turned the US consumer into glutens.

Spending is out of control here

 

[Heat_Fan89]

Looks like the smart move is to buy what you want in the electronics sector now. If you think you're going to want a new SSD, more RAM, or a new case in October, then buy it now instead of waiting.

I'm in the process of a new build and that's what I have done. Unfortunately the timing for GPU's is bad. However the purchases I did make are those I can carry over to the next generation with the possible exception of the 360mm AIO I purchased for the 9800X3D.

I purchased the NZXT H7 Flow 2024 case, Thermalright 360mm AIO, rear case fan and just today I picked up a 1000W Super Flower platinum PSU which had a $10 discount on Amazon.

Memory, CPU and Mobo are waiting because of the GPU situation which now is going to only get worse with the tariffs set to kick in shortly.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

Tariffs + GPU pricing = DOA PC gaming

This will push the cost of exceeding console performance at almost $2k.

Consoles are also going to feel it. Surely that has Sony and Nintendo sweating the thought. I wonder if Microsoft will send their lobbyists to Washington to stave off those tariffs.

 

[Heiro78]

Ouch. I don't think this latest round of tariffs is going to get rolled back, and I think executives are going to assume trade policy will change in 4 years with a different administration. I think companies will wait out current US economic policy. Looks like the smart move is to buy what you want in the electronics sector now. If you think you're going to want a new SSD, more RAM, or a new case in October, then buy it now instead of waiting.

I don't see a new administration in 4 years rolling them back. The Biden admin didn't. But I also believe (as stated by this adminisatration's staff) that tariffs are being used as a negotiation tool. In my opinion that negotiation will both be with other countries but also citizens of the USA.

You wanna play with the USA country XYZ? You gotta give us something. Citizens ya want relief? Here ya go, how great are we. It won't matter what administration is in power, these will be options for them

 

[Heiro78]

Tariffs + GPU pricing = DOA PC gaming

This will push the cost of exceeding console performance at almost $2k.

Hey! Don't worry, good guy Nvidia and AMD definitely raised their prices in anticipation for this and won't raise them again. Instead, they'll absorb the tariffs... Right? Right?!?!

 

[Heiro78]

This, the sky is not falling.
More people around me the world pay a whole lot more for goods than the US, it has turned the US consumer into glutens.

Spending is out of control here

Still doesn't change that people are used to paying what they have been paying and will have to tighten their belts. Some people won't be able to tighten anymore.

 

[Kindaian]

Tariffs yes, but both Sony and MS have set contracts and prices with AMD.

I'm pretty sure that those contracts will be written as net price without including any taxes. So the integrators (MS / Sony) will fork the tax bill. What will happen to the shop prices of the devices is anyone guess.

 

[BILL1957]

Another here in the midst of a basic complete system overhaul on my secondary system and moved up my timetable on purchasing some of the components to get them ordered before the tariffs went into effect.

The only thing I have not yet purchased is the gpu as that segment right now is such a mess and so overpriced I was planning to wait until much later in the year to revisit that mess.

I do have a 3080 though which will tide me over just fine for the next year or so if need be.

How much these tariffs do affect pc component prices for me in the near term I can now just sit back and watch.

PC gaming is getting close I think to the point of pricing itself out of many average family's budget considerations already and if prices jump another 20-25% and the country does indeed fall into a recession with a lot of job losses it could be the straw that broke the camel's back for many.

 

[bigdragon]

PC gaming is getting close I think to the point of pricing itself out of many average family's budget considerations already and if prices jump another 20-25% and the country does indeed fall into a recession with a lot of job losses it could be the straw that broke the camel's back for many.

GPU pricing is absolutely egregious. However, we've seen a trend where demand has shifted away from the big-budget, AAA products. I don't think PC gaming will price itself out of general affordability. Rather, we'll see the growth in retro and indie titles continue. Demand for cutting-edge graphics will take a backseat to gameplay design, NPC AI, and storytelling. There's so much more that can be done in the gaming world when graphics and gigantic open worlds aren't the sole focus of publishers.

 

[FPGA Engineer]

I'll be in the market for a new system later this year and unfortunately I can't move up the timetable. However, I am in Canada. I've usually purchased PCs from US companies, but with those companies getting tariffed on their components and then the system getting hit with counter tariffs coming into Canada, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a made-in-Canada alternative? Failing that, what are some good European or Asian high end PC manufactures? Sadly, it looks like anything made or assembled in the US will be out of consideration for at least the next 4 years.