PC rebooting 3 times after "non risky" OC

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Hello!
Check my specs below first to make it clear

  • ■ Samsung 850-Series EVO 500GB
    ■ Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200rpm 64MB
    ■ Corsair Hydro H100i v2
    ■ EVGA Supernova G2 650W
    ■ AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3.7 GHz 20MB
    ■ ASUS PRIME X370-PRO
    ■ MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming X
    ■ Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000Mhz CL15 Vengeance
Ive been having this problem for around 2-3 days, and i think i know from where the issue came from, by changing in the BIOS. But i dont know exactly what made the pc reboot, and why.
After 3 boots directly before the OS loading screen it directs me to a "american megatrends" screen saying ->
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A simple bypass is too manually shut down the pc with the button and start it again with the button, then i can use my computer, but not from restarting in BIOS

I then assume it has to do with overclocking my ryzen 7 1700?
What ive done to control/check this with no result

  • *Reset(F5) to default settings, no OC.
    *Manually put down cpu freq from 37 to standard 30, aswell the cpu vcore still on stock.
    *Looked at fan speeds, glanced at LLC but didnt touch, and other various settings.
I then later on realised that alot of people has had the problem with their ram memory frequencies. Ive got 3000 Mhz speed, overclocked from 2133 to 3000 in Factory. The DRAM voltage is 1.35, and ive tested to up this to 1.355/1.36 but no result. I also recognized that in my BIOS it has Target Ram freq at 3000mhz, but current to 2133. Im not sure, but that might just be the bios limit and i might be going crazy and think that they failed the overclock in factory...

The strange part with this is that this is a 2-3 week old computer so im sure the answer is not anything physical, old with the hardware from the overclocking. Even if it could, i have never touched the Vcore over around 1.3, cpu freq not over 37.5, Soc never over 0.9 etc...
I am then left with help from you guys! And to be clear, i have even tried resetting the cmos battery, reset default settings, but added on ram D.O.C.P profile to 3000mhz, 1.35V and EVERYTHING else standard, i then "save and reset" in BIOS, and it boots 3 times to safe mode screen. One would then have to assume it has to do with something broken physically, but i have excluded that since all of my temps during my time with the computer has not surpassed anything dangerous at all actually. So it only leaves me that the RAM profile makes my PC reboot EVEN THOUGH the profile has been on when i got the computer and ran flawlessesly for around 1 week without touching BIOS?? HELP

And again, dont tell me that something is phy. broken, what ive seen it should not be the case :)

 
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Correction your right with those numbers in that sense. You got to remember im dealing with my personal life while doing my best to research this for you. Im still learning new things everyday. I simply had the numbers backwards. 1.2v runs the 2133 and 1.35 should push that 3000 or 2933oc. Apologies for any confusions. Next time your in your bios try doing the 2933 or 3000 with the voltage running 1.35. guess if that dont work then yeah you got a shitty ram module in there.
That ram is too high for that Board
AMD Ryzen Processors support DDR4 2666/ 2400/ 2133
AMD 7th Generation A-series / Athlon Processors support DDR4 2400/ 2133

Defect ram Throwing it out of whack. OR the board its self has a defect. Asus is known for crap motherboards lately anyhow. RMA time if you ask me

Also check to see if there is a new bios update. if possible maybe they fixed it.
 


So would you say the fact that it is setup by 3000mhz in BIOS its rebooting? Because when i first got the computer obv its set too its marketet speeds (corsair 2x8 3000Mhz), so i assume it worked with 3000mhz before since the comupter worked flawless before touching the BIOS for a week. I see your point, but thats my problem, i dont know whats causing the boots since ive already been able to run my computer on 3000mhz (or atleast 3000mhz set in BIOS i believe)

EDIT: I really dont hope anything is defect, as i said i feel its unlikely because no OC settings ive touch has only been "safe settings" and the computer is so new in that an overclock woulndt hurt it i believe, since "high" voltages or something is usually dangerous at long term time.
 
Try and see if there's a Bios update first. Second overclocking anything pushes it beyond the boards limits which will and can start a defect to present itself. You also said that it ran fine before you messed around in the bios. It could have been underclocked from the beginning to an appropriate speed for that motherboard. Maybe i'm out of my league on this one I went directly to your Boards specs website here is a detailed list of supported ram specifically for your board
Another option would to be to pull the CMOS and Default all the settings. I still would consider that BIOS update first it could also be software related.

AMD Ryzen™ Processors
4 x DIMM, Max. 64GB, DDR4 3200(O.C.)/2933(O.C.)/2666/2400/2133 MHz ECC and non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory
AMD 7th Generation A-series/Athlon™ Processors
4 x DIMM, Max. 64GB, DDR4 2400/2133 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory
Dual Channel Memory Architecture
** Refer to www.asus.com for the Memory QVL (Qualified Vendors Lists).

 

Oh i see i missed to mention that i checked for BIOS update, but none were found. I also see that from ur comment thats my ram 2933 (OC), so as i said ram memory oc:ed to "3ghz" is legit for amd ryzen cpu, which i have. And it leaves me with defect/damaged, which i doubt but its an option yes :/
 
My system gave me the same problem only I use intel. Was 1 faulty ram module
Press F1 next time. For me but dunno why I had to install windows all over for some odd reason. Swapped out the ram ( old ones now lay somewhere in the forest next to my house as far as I could throw them 😀 ) and with new modules in I dont have a problem anymore.


Test 1 ram module at the time
 
The last thing i could say is to try that CMOS and default it. See if it boots. 3000mhz is an awkward OC and it might not be stable for that ram seeing how that is its max tested speed which means that is the farthest you can push that ram. Memory straight out of the box runs at the specified SPD speed (stock speed), and requires the SPD voltage. For Memory to run at its tested speed (rated speed) it must be manually set in the BIOS, and requires tested voltage.

If nothing else works then the latter result is a defect. You would just have to see if its your ram or motherboard hopefully nothing else.

2133mhz is your actual speed

See your ram specs here
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-dram-3000mhz-c15-memory-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15
 


What? I just said i had 2933, if you think i have exactly 3000, thats just because its the closest to 2933, and its most relevant to refer it as 3000, cause its nearest. I also mentioned that the computer ran without probs for a week with 2933 from the XMP profile already set from the guys that built and tested my computer.
 


OP Read my post. Your speed is unstable

As i posted earlier

"The last thing i could say is to try that CMOS and default it. See if it boots. 3000mhz is an awkward OC and it might not be stable for that ram seeing how that is its max tested speed which means that is the farthest you can push that ram. Memory straight out of the box runs at the specified SPD speed (stock speed), and requires the SPD voltage. For Memory to run at its tested speed (rated speed) it must be manually set in the BIOS, and requires tested voltage.

If nothing else works then the latter result is a defect. You would just have to see if its your ram or motherboard hopefully nothing else.

2133mhz is your actual speed

See your ram specs here"
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-d...

 
I tried by going in to BIOS and turn off my ram "overclock" profile from 2933mhz to disabled (auto i believe) and the computer did not reboot 3 times, it booted like any normal computer. This fixed my "current" problem but did not fix the fact that i had that profile working in the beginning, so why wouldnt loop when it was on for probably more than a week, maybe 2.
Its kinda bothering to me that i paid for 3000mhz when its not working, but it did before? And now i feel it still should work with that BUILT IN profile, or else i believe the company i bought from wouldve contacted me (which they always do) before putting them in.. Lastly i cant show you a picture but can say that on their website this motherboard can take up to 3200mhz overclocked, so im not sure why the motherboard wouldnt be able to cooperate with my ram? And i just now saw that the ryzen max memory speed is 2667mhz, it feels like thats the problem, i should probably turn down to that, but i still cant get over the fact that ive already been using 2933, so why would i change to 2667..
 


I read it before, but theres a important thing to notice that i bought my computer with the company to build and control/check it. THEY overclocked the rams (to the desired/marketed speeds) with the right volt obv.. And then put it in as a XMP profile, i used it on my computer for 2w before going in to BIOS. Then after 2w i went in BIOS and cant determine exactly what is the problem, if something else in BIOS is wrong or the memory just gradually being unstable? So your saying they basically made a profile unstable for my system? And sure, i know its up to me, i dont blame the company ofc.. xD
 
Once again 3000mhz is the RATED Speed not SPD speed. Those Ram sticks are designed to run at 2133mhz STOCK. 3000mhz is the max you can push those ram sticks. You already OC the sticks to 2933. Any higher requires a boost in voltage and your probably not going to get to it without Rigorous voltage testing. let alone the fact 3000mhz is an Awkward OC to begin with.
Call that company and request a refund for those sticks. But honestly your already at the max with 2933 stable wise.

I urge you to look at your RAM specs

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-dram-3000mhz-c15-memory-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15?utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=VigLink-2470763&utm_term=6146836&utm_content=&utm_campaign=12727402&Link_name=Certified+Refurbished%3A+Up+To+60%25+Off
 


I see what you'r e saying here, but dont misunderstand me here, ive ran 2933mhz aswell as i have not OCed them to 2933. Look at the link (sry for swedish) but look at the title and it says 3000Mhz, also down in the "specification box" it says 1,35V. So you're saying i bought 3000mhz? I cant use it? i have to decellerate the speed, and cry?
 


the 1.35 runs those sticks at 2133mhz stable. 3000mhz isnt a stable speed. 2933 is but not 3000mhz. You might get the option for it in your bios. Does not mean that you can push it that far. You also got to figure in the voltage for that 2933

1.2 might run 2133mhz but it wont be stable for a 2933 oc at 1.2

As to what happened with you OC profile im not sure it might have gotten changed up. when you entered the Bios that or it was always on 2133mhz to begin with.
 

I dont know if you did read my other comments? But i forgot a link to show which ill post under the comment about the product. Then ur saying 3000mhz isnt stable but 2933 is? Im not sure its a big diff, but i havent use 3000mhz, one just says so cause its closest to 2933, and i mean 2933. But look at the link (sry for swedish again) and look at the title 3000mhz, and then again in the specifications box where you will see it doesnt say 2133, just 3000 mhz and the voltage at 1.35V. So by their description i see it as 3000mhz at 1.35V. And thats also the premade XMP profile (which i have already told about..) setttings that are 2933 with 1.35V That either the company service thingy handled/tested or the ram company.
https://www.inet.se/produkt/5310200/corsair-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-3000mhz-cl15-vengeance-lpx-svart#specs
 
Motherboards only run a specific speed. and i dont know where or how you found this site. But this site is wrong. Corsair does not make ram sticks with those kinds of specs. I'm on the actual corsair website looking at the same sticks. I think you got ripped off to be quite honest. http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-dram-3000mhz-c15-memory-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15

Please i urge you too look at this site and check the specs. This is the ram you have in your pc. I copied the model number from that website to Corsairs Website and this is the True SPECS.
 

Im very sure im not ripped off in any way, its a very respectable site (literally swedens, norways etc biggest computer company so...) And what do u mean its the wrong info? I looked at your link, it literally says 3000mhz in description, aswell as 1.35V And if it says a freq in the desc. im sure the volt in the desc is for that freq.. Im pretty sure 1.35V is for the 3000mhz/2933mhz freq, but thats just me.
 
It also says on there RATED speed and SPD Speed. The 1.2 Correlates with the 2133mhz speed. I assure you i know what im talking about. Is it not possible they uploaded the wrong Specs to their website? You say CL15 but no such ram exists its only a C15 type ram. Corsair made the ram im pretty sure i would rely on the corsair website over this 3rd party website that just sells the equipment that Corsair makes.
 


You assure me you know what youre talking about? How about this? Im not sure you understand my situation here, aswell as the rams...
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Where did i see this? well from ur frikking link heh xD
 
Topic is getting alittle off if you ask me...
Do me a favor and test 1 stick, set XMP and try. Works or no? do the same with the other one. ( easy and fast to test )
If one gives you all ok, but the other does not... well you have your answer.
If both dont work, could be settings or it could be both that is defective.
 


Ye i guess it did haha. I will try that tomorrow and see if it solves it. It lets say one is defective do you think i can ask the site i bought from for another one to send for compensation?
 
I did see you posted that you are from sweden. Well I am from norway so if you shopped from komplett.se you can RMA the 2 modules without problem. But that is ofc as long you have not had them for to long, then you have to go through corsair, but from my experience komplett will even help you with that.
 
Correction your right with those numbers in that sense. You got to remember im dealing with my personal life while doing my best to research this for you. Im still learning new things everyday. I simply had the numbers backwards. 1.2v runs the 2133 and 1.35 should push that 3000 or 2933oc. Apologies for any confusions. Next time your in your bios try doing the 2933 or 3000 with the voltage running 1.35. guess if that dont work then yeah you got a shitty ram module in there.
 
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