[SOLVED] Pc takes long time to boot

[Gokhannn]

Hey i have new build pc windows is on ssd and my pc sometimes takes so long to boot around 1-2 minutes sometimes its perfectly normal only 10-20 sec but sometimes dots keep spinning under gigabyte logo and after that dots spin in black screen for a 30-60 seconds it only happens sometimes for somereason my bios was not updated after i updated it problem was gone for 7-10 days and it started again problem never happens if i restart

what i tried

turning on off windows fast boot
turning on off bios fast boot/ultra fast boot
sfc scannow


and these are the things on boot log

BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\NDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\wd\WdFilter.sys


specs

ryzen 5 5600
b550 ds3h
kingston furybeast 3200mhz 16gb
1tb mx500 ssd / 2tb ws blue hdd
3070
sharkoon silentstorm cool zero 750w 80+ gold
lancool 2 mesh
windows 10

 

[kerberos_20]

was that a fresh windows install?

 

[Gokhannn]

was that a fresh windows install?

yes build the pc 2.5 months ago problem started around 1.5 months ago i added hdd after a week i build the pc and installed windows is there a change it is the problem ?

 

[kerberos_20]

try cleaning system recovery and shadow copies, that should improve boot time a bit

press win+r and type: cleanmgr
choose your system drive (typically disk C)
at bottom click cleanup system files
choose again your system drive
switch tab to more options
under system restore and shadow copy, click cleanup button

see if it solved your boottime issue

 

[Gokhannn]

try cleaning system recovery and shadow copies, that should improve boot time a bit

press win+r and type: cleanmgr
choose your system drive (typically disk C)
at bottom click cleanup system files
choose again your system drive
switch tab to more options
under system restore and shadow copy, click cleanup button

see if it solved your boottime issue

sadly it didnt fix the problem

 

[kerberos_20]

u may want to check loading times alternative way, bootlog mentioned above doesnt show timestamps, not loaded drivers arent issue

before u start, download Windows 10 SDK

Windows SDK - Windows app development

The Windows SDK for Windows 11 contains headers, libraries, and tools you can use when you create apps that run on Windows.

developer.microsoft.com

make sure that performance toolkit is selected under redistributables, nothing else is needed from SDK
it will download WPT to your user defined folder
open that folder manually and inside installers folder u will find WPTx64-x86_en-us.msi
install it by opening it

now open command promp and run this command:
xbootmgr -trace boot -traceFlags BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER -resultPath C:\TEMP

u can replace C:\temp with any other folder u wish to save logs to

for analysing those logs u use this command in C: \TEMP folder:
cd c:\temp
xperf /tti -i boot_BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1.etl -o summary_boot.xml -a boot

which will create summary_boot.xml file with enough info

 

[Bob.B]

Hey i have new build pc windows is on ssd and my pc sometimes takes so long to boot around 1-2 minutes sometimes its perfectly normal only 10-20 sec but sometimes dots keep spinning under gigabyte logo and after that dots spin in black screen for a 30-60 seconds it only happens sometimes for somereason my bios was not updated after i updated it problem was gone for 7-10 days and it started again problem never happens if i restart

what i tried

turning on off windows fast boot
turning on off bios fast boot/ultra fast boot
sfc scannow


and these are the things on boot log

BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\NDProxy.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\wd\WdFilter.sys


specs

ryzen 5 5600
b550 ds3h
kingston furybeast 3200mhz 16gb
1tb mx500 ssd / 2tb ws blue hdd
3070
sharkoon silentstorm cool zero 750w 80+ gold
lancool 2 mesh
windows 10

Just a test.

Unplug the hdd see if it makes a diff.

 

[Gokhannn]

Just a test.

Unplug the hdd see if it makes a diff.

i cant be sure it is causing issue because the problem happens randomly i need to left my hdd unplugged for few days to see if it is really the problem

 

[Gokhannn]

u may want to check loading times alternative way, bootlog mentioned above doesnt show timestamps, not loaded drivers arent issue

before u start, download Windows 10 SDK

Windows SDK - Windows app development

The Windows SDK for Windows 11 contains headers, libraries, and tools you can use when you create apps that run on Windows.

developer.microsoft.com

make sure that performance toolkit is selected under redistributables, nothing else is needed from SDK
it will download WPT to your user defined folder
open that folder manually and inside installers folder u will find WPTx64-x86_en-us.msi
install it by opening it

now open command promp and run this command:
xbootmgr -trace boot -traceFlags BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER -resultPath C:\TEMP

u can replace C:\temp with any other folder u wish to save logs to

for analysing those logs u use this command in C: \TEMP folder:
cd c:\temp
xperf /tti -i boot_BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1.etl -o summary_boot.xml -a boot

which will create summary_boot.xml file with enough info

i did it but after i use the first command it restarted my pc and it booted fast like i said it never takes long to boot if i restart but i did all what you said what should i do now

 

[kerberos_20]

i did it but after i use the first command it restarted my pc and it booted fast like i said it never takes long to boot if i restart but i did all what you said what should i do now

so it never happend from reboot, but can happen when powering up PC?
if yes then some device have issue initialising itself

 

[Gokhannn]

so it never happend from reboot, but can happen when powering up PC?
if yes then some device have issue initialising itself

yes how can i figure out which device is causing the problem and is this a faulty device or something wrong with windows ?

 

[Gokhannn]

so it never happend from reboot, but can happen when powering up PC?
if yes then some device have issue initialising itself

And do you mean like hdd ssd or cpu by device or my mouse speakers etc. ?

 

[kerberos_20]

And do you mean like hdd ssd or cpu by device or my mouse speakers etc. ?

could be any device, including usb

 

[Gokhannn]

could be any device, including usb

Is there any way i can find which one without trying 1by1 or is this a problem if i Just leave it like that can it cause problems

 

[kerberos_20]

try that xbootmgr command, during reboot on bios POST screen, power off PC
then power it on, you might need to do it few times untill you get slow boot with xbootmgr recording it

 

[Gokhannn]

try that xbootmgr command, during reboot on bios POST screen, power off PC
then power it on, you might need to do it few times untill you get slow boot with xbootmgr recording it

it didnt work it just doesnt record if i power off during reboot but i think i found what is causing the problem if i unplug the speakers it opens faster then ever only takes like 2 seconds and it used to freeze for a second on spinning dots and it opened it also never happened without speakers do you have any idea how can i fix it is the only way boot without speakers ?

 

[John Chesterfield]

it didnt work it just doesnt record if i power off during reboot but i think i found what is causing the problem if i unplug the speakers it opens faster then ever only takes like 2 seconds and it used to freeze for a second on spinning dots and it opened it also never happened without speakers do you have any idea how can i fix it is the only way boot without speakers ?

Are these USB speakers?

 

[Gokhannn]

Are these USB speakers?

they have both usb and the audio cable both connects to pc it takes power from usb and gives audio from other as far as i know

 

[John Chesterfield]

they have both usb and the audio cable both connects to pc it takes power from usb and gives audio from other as far as i know

Something about those speakers' power is making the PC unhappy, just get a set with mains power.

 

[Gokhannn]

Something about those speakers' power is making the PC unhappy, just get a set with mains power.

is this not okay if i use it just like that ?

 

[John Chesterfield]

is this not okay if i use it just like that ?

You've found the issue though from your posts above? Device doesn't work properly with component connected, disconnect component and device works perfectly.

Not sure you need any more evidence than the above that maybe it's better to do without these speakers.

 

[Gokhannn]

You've found the issue though from your posts above? Device doesn't work properly with component connected, disconnect component and device works perfectly.

Not sure you need any more evidence than the above that maybe it's better to do without these speakers.

I just wondered because it doesnt cause any problems at all after boot speakers work perfectly as well as all my pc and these are the only speakers i have currenty which is why i asked can it cause problems or is it just about booting part

 

[John Chesterfield]

It causes problems with booting. If you don't mind that, then live with it. If you do, remove them.

You've found the answer, it's your choice whether to heed it or just carry on as you are.

 

[Gokhannn]

It causes problems with booting. If you don't mind that, then live with it. If you do, remove them.

You've found the answer, it's your choice whether to heed it or just carry on as you are.

okay thanks