PC Upgrade advice

matt16830

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I want to upgrade my PC with at least a new mobo and cpu. Due to financial constraints I would prefer to find a mobo that uses my existing Mushkin 4 GB DDR2 667 RAM and my evga video card. I have found a couple cpu & mobo combos that will allow me to do this. I was going to get a Phenom 955 but since I am only into gaming (and not multi-tasking), I thought maybe just a dual-core would suffice so I started looking at the Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz cpu and a Intel BOXDG43GT LGA 775 mobo. I realize I could get a better video card but would rather wait until I get more cash. I'm also thinking of getting a new hard drive since the reviews for mine say it doesn't last past 2 years and that time is coming soon.

I like the E8500 because it is faster than my Athlon 64 X2 4200 and has the 1333MHz FSB but doesn't have hyper threading, is that bad?



here are my current specs:
Asus A8M2N-LA mobo
Athlon 64 X2 4200
4GB DDR2 667
Win XP Pro 32
EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 (G92)
Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W psu
HITACHI Deskstar P7K500 HDP725025GLA380 250GB



Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz
bhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspxItem=N82E16819115036

Intel BOXDG43GT LGA 775
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121389
 
For the price of that dual core processor, you could buy a phenom II 955 for your current socket. Hell, if you wanted more power and don't want to overclock you could get a phenom II 965 for less than the cost of that CPU and a new motherboard.

About gaming, games are becoming more and more multithreaded. You would benefit from a quad core in gaming especially in some games now and a lot more in the near future.

If you want to look at a cheaper dual core the Phenom II x2 at 3.1 GHz is about $100. Less than half what you are paying. But the E8500 would outperform it. Though, I can't see it outperforming it by more than 10-15% at the most. From my experience, the Phenom II architecture performs about the same as the Core 2 architecture when the Phenom II is clocked 200MHz higher. If it's worth the extra $160 to you...

Hyperthreading makes a processor able to have as many virtual cores as it does real cores, increasing its ability to multithread but not as much as having more cores would.
 

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Your 8800GT will work on the board, you just can't add a second 8800GT...
The 8800GT outperforms the 4670 so no point in thinking this way.

You can get another 8800GT if you had a board like the Asus M4N82-DX but honestly I think you are better off milking out the 8800 till you jump to a card that performs twice as well while sucking down as much power or even less...

Native Crossfire means that the onboard graphics will boost the performance of your dedicated graphics card... however it's just some marketting bull because the only dedicated graphics card it will accelerate is a Radeon3450 or 2400... aka worthless crap.

Your 8800GT will run very well.

Your ddr667 Ram might slow down the overall performance of the system as most PhenomII's run DDR1066 or at least DDR800... you will still see a huge gain of performance compared to an AthlonX2... if you have the budget, you might as well get an Asus M4A board that supports DDR3-1333 and get another 2x2... (You could later on build something else with the old parts or simply sell them


Overall, the AMD board you picked is good, even with the 8800GT, you can use the HDMI Out of the onboard ATI card and this one outputs sound too so this works great with HDTV's.
 

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*Due to AMD CPU limitation, DDR2 1066 is supported by AM2+/AM3 CPU for one DIMM per channel only.

Does this mean I can only get 2 2x2GB DDR2 1066 for a total of 4GB RAM?
 

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You are certainly doing your homework and reading the motherboard Manual.

Using DDR2-1066Mhz Memory, you can only use 2 out of the 4 Memory slots... no worries, you are not buying ddr2-1066... it costs a fortune.

Another advantage of DDR3... however your DDR2-667 will still work well on that other motherboard... it's all about budget at this point.
 

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Ok, I was editing my previous post when you posted yours. So i can only have a total of 4GB RAM then if I use the 1066? I think I will stick with the 667 I have. Thanks
 

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Well the RAM worked but it only shows as 3.25 GB instead of 3.50 GB as it did before. No biggie. When I get the money I will upgrade the RAM. The mobo and cpu installed easy Wednesday and it's been working so far, so good. I didn't do anything with the BIOS but I installed the latest AMD drivers.