[SOLVED] PC upgrade cpu, ram, mobo, possibly new cooler and psu

[xaigeta]

So currently I'm still running a 1366 build currently that i bought in 2010-2011 got a budget of 1000$ after shipping/taxes and i havent really been keeping up with all the new stuff persay kinda got over whelmed with everything
but i do alot of gaming mostly so any suggestions will be greatly appreciated

CPU - X5680
RAM - Gskill Pi DDR3 12gig
MOBO - sabertooth x58
Graphics - RX 580
PSU - corsair tx750
SSD - PNY 240 (OS)
SSD - Crucial MX500 (games)
HDD - WD 500 (Storage)
CASE - Lian li Lancool mesh
AIO - Corsair H110i
Monitor - Asus TUF 165hz 1080p

 

[Hellfire13]

This is not a good time to upgrade as hardware prices are sky high due to shortages, specially GPU. Unless your rig is broken, you should atleast wait for the Intel next gen. processors, which are about to release next month. You will have more options then...
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...e-date-specifications-performance-all-we-know

Most of your parts are good quality so you should retain most of them, other than these...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-10700 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor | $293.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | MSI Z490-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard | $169.99 @ B&H
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory | $74.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $123.00 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $661.97
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-22 21:53 EST-0500 |

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119384
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS LGA 1200 SATA 6Gb/s ATX $119.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...e-date-specifications-performance-all-we-know
Intel 11th gen Rocket Lake i5 - 11400F ($160 - $170 if I had to guess)

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164188
Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 $79.99

Here's two reviews of the current Intel 10th gen Comet Lake i5 10400F. Expect the newer Rocket Lake version of that chip (i5 11400F) to pump out better numbers due to improved IPC, native support of 3200MHz RAM along with PCIe 4.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/
Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

https://4youdaily.com/technology-an...cessor-review-do-you-still-like-ryzen-5-3600/
Core i5-10400 and Core i5-10400F Processor Review: Do You Still Like Ryzen 5 3600?

Intel Rocket Lake hard launch tipped for Monday 15th March

And the same Hong Kong-based source says that ADL-S delivers a 20 per cent IPC uplift.

hexus.net

 

[xaigeta]

This is not a good time to upgrade as hardware prices are sky high due to shortages, specially GPU. Unless your rig is broken, you should atleast wait for the Intel next gen. processors, which are about to release next month. You will have more options then...
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...e-date-specifications-performance-all-we-know

Most of your parts are good quality so you should retain most of them, other than these...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-10700 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor | $293.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | MSI Z490-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard | $169.99 @ B&H
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory | $74.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $123.00 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $661.97
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-22 21:53 EST-0500 |

I generally only want to change mobo, ram, and cpu and maybe the psu since the thing is 11 years old already i didnt mean the gpu since its basically fine still that i know of

 

[Why_Me]

I generally only want to change mobo, ram, and cpu and maybe the psu since the thing is 11 years old already i didnt mean the gpu since its basically fine still that i know of

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119384
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS LGA 1200 SATA 6Gb/s ATX $119.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...e-date-specifications-performance-all-we-know
Intel 11th gen Rocket Lake i5 - 11400F ($160 - $170 if I had to guess)

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164188
Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 $79.99

Here's two reviews of the current Intel 10th gen Comet Lake i5 10400F. Expect the newer Rocket Lake version of that chip (i5 11400F) to pump out better numbers due to improved IPC, native support of 3200MHz RAM along with PCIe 4.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/
Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

https://4youdaily.com/technology-an...cessor-review-do-you-still-like-ryzen-5-3600/
Core i5-10400 and Core i5-10400F Processor Review: Do You Still Like Ryzen 5 3600?

Intel Rocket Lake hard launch tipped for Monday 15th March

And the same Hong Kong-based source says that ADL-S delivers a 20 per cent IPC uplift.

hexus.net

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-ga-220-ga-0650-x1-650w/p/1HU-00J7-004V5
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GA, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular $89.97

 

[xaigeta]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-ga-220-ga-0650-x1-650w/p/1HU-00J7-004V5
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GA, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular $89.97

This is not a good time to upgrade as hardware prices are sky high due to shortages, specially GPU. Unless your rig is broken, you should atleast wait for the Intel next gen. processors, which are about to release next month. You will have more options then...
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...e-date-specifications-performance-all-we-know

Most of your parts are good quality so you should retain most of them, other than these...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-10700 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor | $293.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | MSI Z490-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard | $169.99 @ B&H
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory | $74.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $123.00 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $661.97
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-22 21:53 EST-0500 |

I took parts from both of ya except the motherboard part there was a combo deal on newegg with similar parts this is what i got

Ram - Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G32C16U4W
PSU - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GA, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, ECO Mode with Dbb Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Compact 150mm Size, ...
MOBO - GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS ELITE AC LGA 1200 Intel Z490 ATX Motherboard with Dual M.2, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.2 Gen 2, Intel ...
CPU - Intel Core i7-10700K Comet Lake 8-Core 3.8 GHz LGA 1200 125W Desktop Processor w/ Intel UHD Graphics 630

I would like to thank the both of ya for your generosity on the help and the time taken to find the parts

 

[Hellfire13]

You're recommending components that are about to be dated tech within weeks. Maybe you can explain your recommendations.

Dude, read the disclaimer I have posted before the recommendations. If you are smart enough, you will get your explanations there.
Also, signature release and actually getting them in hand at stock price are two different things. We have all seen what has happened with previous generations of both Intel and AMD.

I took parts from both of ya except the motherboard part there was a combo deal on newegg with similar parts this is what i got

Ram - Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G32C16U4W
PSU - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GA, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, ECO Mode with Dbb Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Compact 150mm Size, ...
MOBO - GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS ELITE AC LGA 1200 Intel Z490 ATX Motherboard with Dual M.2, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.2 Gen 2, Intel ...
CPU - Intel Core i7-10700K Comet Lake 8-Core 3.8 GHz LGA 1200 125W Desktop Processor w/ Intel UHD Graphics 630

I would like to thank the both of ya for your generosity on the help and the time taken to find the parts

I would not go wit that PSU. For 650w I would go with this...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $107.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $107.99
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-23 00:49 EST-0500 |

Heres why...

[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.8 (END OF LIFE) Last Update: 27-07-2021 Legend : Gray - EoL/obsolete and/or otherwise not recommended for purchase. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (includes requirements for blue ...

linustechtips.com

 

[Why_Me]

Intel Core i9, Core i7, Core i5 8 & 6 Core Rocket Lake Desktop CPU Benchmarks Leak Out - Huge Single-Threaded Performance Gains

Benchmarks of several Intel 11th Gen Rocket Lake Desktop CPUs which include Core i9, Core i7, & Core i5 SKUs have leaked out.

wccftech.com

https://hothardware.com/news/intel-core-i5-11400-rocket-lake-cpu-performance

Z590 board + unlocked 11th gen cpu if you plan on O/C, B560 board if you don't.

https://www.asus.com/us/site/motherboards/Intel-Rocket-Lake-Z590-H570-B560-series/ <--- Asus

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/Intel-Z590 <--- Gigabyte

https://www.msi.com/Landing/intel-z590-b560-h510-motherboard <--- MSI

https://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp <----Asrock

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007627 601360973 601360964 <--- A few of those boards starting to show upon Newegg

 

[Karadjgne]

Wait for 11th Gen reviews from places like Gamersnexus etc.

HEDT are sort of at a crossroads. Back in 2011 they were the bomb, big, fast, could handle anything. But now so are consumer grade cpus, and the HEDT have lost their edge in gaming. So unless you have a realistic need for one, for high ram size or quad channel bandwidth, they are an expense you can do without.

$1k and keep the gpu? That's a lot of pc to play with actually. (whomever posted the 10700 could use a thumping).

For Intel, I'd be looking at a halfway decent Z590, 32Gb of 3600MHz ram, NVME drives of 1-2Gb, an 11600K or 11700k, decent case and a Good psu. Just don't go for the non-K versions of any of the better cpus, they are chopped TDP versions that seriously suffer speed reductions with multiple core usage.

A Ryzen build with X570 and 5600x or better will be roughly the same thing.

It'll all depend on exactly what you balance against, better quality or fancier components at a higher price vs good enough to get the job done.

 

[Hellfire13]

whomever posted the 10700 could use a thumping

Core i7-10700 vs Core i7-10700K Performance
In the review we highlighted that these two processors have a peak turbo frequency difference of 300 MHz and an all-core turbo frequency difference of 100 MHz. The fact that one is rated at 65 W and the other is rated at 125 W is inconsequential here, given that most end-user motherboards will simply enable turbo all the time. This means the performance in most of our tests between the two is practically identical, and consummate to a 100-300 MHz frequency difference.

In practically all of our tests, the Core i7-10700K is ahead by a super slim margin. At $387 for the 10700K compared to $335 for the 10700, the performance difference is not enough to warrant the $52 price difference between the two. Performance per dollar sides mostly with the Core i7-10700, although users getting the i7-10700K will likely look towards overclocking their processor to get the most out of it – that ultimately is what to pay for.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1634...710700k-review-is-65w-comet-lake-an-option/23

Theres not an earth shattering difference between them considering the price difference.

 

[Why_Me]

Wait for 11th Gen reviews from places like Gamersnexus etc.

HEDT are sort of at a crossroads. Back in 2011 they were the bomb, big, fast, could handle anything. But now so are consumer grade cpus, and the HEDT have lost their edge in gaming. So unless you have a realistic need for one, for high ram size or quad channel bandwidth, they are an expense you can do without.

$1k and keep the gpu? That's a lot of pc to play with actually. (whomever posted the 10700 could use a thumping).

For Intel, I'd be looking at a halfway decent Z590, 32Gb of 3600MHz ram, NVME drives of 1-2Gb, an 11600K or 11700k, decent case and a Good psu. Just don't go for the non-K versions of any of the better cpus, they are chopped TDP versions that seriously suffer speed reductions with multiple core usage.

A Ryzen build with X570 and 5600x or better will be roughly the same thing.

It'll all depend on exactly what you balance against, better quality or fancier components at a higher price vs good enough to get the job done.

Actually you can O/C the locked cpu's in a round a bout way on B560 boards by unlocking the turbo boost limits. You just want to make sure you have good cooling and a board with decent VRM's.

Here's an example.

https://wccftech.com/msi-b560-h510-...-under-200-us-up-to-ddr4-5200-memory-support/

In addition to memory overclocking, MSI 500-series motherboards (Z590, B560, H510) will come with unlocked power limit support. So while you won't be able to overclock your 10th or 11th Gen Intel CPUs on B560 and H510 boards, you can get unlocked power limits which would allow you to sustain boost clocks for longer periods but at the cost of higher power draw. You can select various power limit profiles based on your cooling. The power limits go up to 255W (PL2) with a current limit of 210 Amps.

 

[Karadjgne]

Hah. That's no secret. Msi and Gigabyte have been messing with power limits for a while now, even going as far as changing PL2 from Intel recommended 56 seconds to 99999 seconds. Now it seems they've used that to an advantage by claiming it as such on the lower ranked boards instead of just the Z490's.

That'd allow the 10700 to hit 200w+ power and stay there instead of dropping off after 28 seconds into PL1.

It's still not a good value though, generally more expensive and behind the Ryzens and would require a considerably better cooler for long term use at those wattage levels vs what Ryzen needs.