Question PC upgrade help

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Hey guys this is my first post ever so my apologies in advance if this isn’t following an etiquette of some sort.

I want to upgrade my PC, I’ve built 2 custom rigs in the past but wouldn’t call myself a pro by any means. More recently I bought a gaming laptop that out performs my most recent rig by a landslide. So much so I can barely stand playing on the old girl, so, time to upgrade! I think I can get away with just upgrading the GPU, but I’m not totally sure what’s worth it, what’s compatible, and what’s worth doing within my budget.

For reference I’ll spit out all my rigs hardware and my current laptop specs so you can see why I’m struggling, and hopefully you guys can give me some good recommendations, or even a few and then I can pick which route would be best.

The laptop is pretty decent, at least I think so. Picture is great, runs everything (for the most part) in ultra settings at 60+ fps. I really love this little device.

My laptop is as follows:

HP OMEN 15-dc1052nr 15.6" Gaming Laptop Computer - Black
Intel Core i7-9750H Processor 2.6GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6
16GB DDR4-2666 RAM
512GB Solid State Drive
Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Multi-format Digital Media Card Reader
10/100/1000 Network
2x2 Realtek WiFi 6+Bluetooth 5.0 Combo
15.6" Full HD 144Hz IPS Anti-Glare Micro-Edge WLED-backlit Display

My PC on the other hand is not so great, not terrible, but a bit dated. I think the CPU and ram are pretty good for todays standard, but I know the GPU can be beefed up.

I don’t have an exact list to pull from but I’ll give the specs and parts that I do know, basically just pulling the parts from my OLD Newegg order:

Motherboard:
ASRock Z170 Pro4S LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Power supply:
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G1 120-G1-0650-XR 80+ GOLD 650W Fully Modular

Ram:
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model F4-2400C15D-16GVR (two of these so 32gb ram total)

CPU:
Intel Core i7 6th Gen - Core i7-6700K 8M Skylake Quad-Core 4.0 GHz LGA 1151 91W BX80662I76700K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 530

GPU:
MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GD5 OCV1

Case:
Deepcool TESSERACT SW Red SPCC Plastic Rubber Coating ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Compatible with ATX 12V / EPS 12V Power Supply (Not Included)

I don’t have a super high end gaming monitor but it is a some $400ish labeled “gaming monitor” bought in 2015.
My HDD is 1 TB

Keep in mind my only focus is gaming, I’m not a streamer, and while I like to think I’m more versed than most at computers, I’m not a pro. I’d like to boot up and jump into my games. I’m not really into tweaking my settings or over clocking or messing with the bios.

So comparing the two, and looking to upgrade this PC to actually be better than the laptop, here’s some questions I have (as I’d like this to be a learning experience as well):


  1. How are my current specs across the board (on the pc)? What would be worth keeping and what’s worth upgrading?
  2. Is the ram itself ok? 32gb seems like alot to me but it’s also kind of older, not sure that makes a big difference?
  3. Is my CPU ok? A few months ago I think I checked the bench marks and it was still in the top 40, but again, not really sure.
  4. What GPU is a good bang for buck GPU upgrade? I think upgrading the GPU alone will give me the best return on investment, I can probably dish out quite a bit of dough on this, but really looking at best bang for buck here. Also not sure exactly what’s compatible with my motherboard.
  5. If I do an upgrade how will that work with my power supply?

So what do you guys think? My budget is about $500-$800 right now (maybe a bit more if that gets in the 40 series range but not sure the motherboard makes that even a viable option). Is it even worth it for me? In a perfect world this upgrade will last me 5-7 more years. Should I go with an upgrade of sorts? Should I save my money for now and wait a year or so to churn out $2k-$3k on a brand new rig?

Any and all help is extremely valued and appreciated, thanks!
 
You're pretty much looking at a complete overhaul at this point.
  • The CPU is basically low end now. A 12th gen i3 can dance around it.
  • DDR4-2400 is below what I'd consider the minimum spec for modern CPUs that still take it. DDR4-3200/3600 is where you should target.
  • The video card's relative performance is now approaching lower midrange at best. And since DX12 support was shoehorned in, it may not perform as good in modern games.
  • The PSU is too old to go on a new machine
  • The case might be transferable, but that's about it.
 
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Mostly agree. A new GPU would increase potential graphical settings. What you need to do is reduce the graphics settings until you no longer see an increase in FPS. That will be your CPU/Memory being responsible for max FPS and the best you could get with a new GPU at any settings and resolution.

CPU upgrade is pointless with Z170. 7700k is not significantly better. And unless you are into extreme BIOS hacking and a little hardware modification, you probably don't want to go down the route of cramming a 9700k in there. (I thought about it for years, never did it)

I think the PSU is still fine for a mid-range card. Not any of the big new ones.

Faster DDR4 could be worth it in the very short term. Would only cost you between 60 and 75 for nice CL16 3200 kit.

(My i7-7700k and GTX980 are running Roblox for my Nephew pretty well)

More prudent to upgrade CPU/Motherboard/RAM/GPU, new SSD. It is possible on your budget, but not top end stuff.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor ($209.86 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($37.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B760 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL36 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($68.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D OC Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G1 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $836.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-03 17:10 EDT-0400
 
That being said, built VS bought? I think everyone here would agree to self build being more cost effective every time yeah?
It depends on the budget category the computer fits in. The one thing you're always going to have is the Windows license tax of at least $100 for a Home OEM License. I do not consider key resellers like Kinguin an option because all options in how someone would be willing to take an $80+ hit on a license makes little to no sense.

If you just need a computer, when you're going lower than $800 or so, it becomes harder to be cost effective because Windows is eating at least 15% of your budget at that point. Or you can just forgo the license since you can run Windows indefinitely without one, but if you're trying to go the "legit" route, then this needs to be taken into account.
 

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A bit different approach. A 5800x3d can crush more expensive CPU's in gaming.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($320.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($40.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 UD AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($59.19 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G1 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $876.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-05 19:23 EDT-0400


Or you could go cheaper, on the CPU, and get a more powerful GPU.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($208.95 @ MemoryC)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($40.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 UD AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($59.19 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G1 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $859.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-05 19:27 EDT-0400
 
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A bit different approach. A 5800x3d can crush more expensive CPU's in gaming.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($320.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($40.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 UD AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($59.19 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G1 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $876.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-05 19:23 EDT-0400


Or you could go cheaper, on the CPU, and get a more powerful GPU.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($208.95 @ MemoryC)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($40.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 UD AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($59.19 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G1 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $859.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-05 19:27 EDT-0400

Could you please let me know why I would want to go one way or the other for these two builds? And how “good” are these builds? Will they be better than my laptop? Not really familiar with AMD but I’d probably be willing to try one.
 

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Could you please let me know why I would want to go one way or the other for these two builds? And how “good” are these builds? Will they be better than my laptop? Not really familiar with AMD but I’d probably be willing to try one.
To get a true answer you need to list the monitor the resolution really matters!!!!!!

I don’t have a super high end gaming monitor but it is a some $400ish labeled “gaming monitor” bought in 2015.
That is no information.
 

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Anything can and will be labeled as 'Gaming' because it adds to the price, whether or not it has anything to do with gaming or not.

So a 'gaming' monitor from 2015 is nothing more than a monitor from 2015, so is most likely a standard 1080p 60Hz FHD with either Display Port 1.2a/1.3 (upto 4k @ 120Hz) or Hdmi 2.0 (upto 4k @ 60Hz) or Dvi/dvi-d dual.

That was as good as it got back then, when most of the actual 'gaming' monitors were 1080p @ 144Hz and cost a small fortune.
 
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Could you please let me know why I would want to go one way or the other for these two builds? And how “good” are these builds? Will they be better than my laptop? Not really familiar with AMD but I’d probably be willing to try one.

This video sums up how good the 5800x3d actually is. The monitor you use is also key to a good gaming experienceand dictates what pc compenents should be used to get the best value.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOi0aFLH9HE
 
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Anything can and will be labeled as 'Gaming' because it adds to the price, whether or not it has anything to do with gaming or not.

So a 'gaming' monitor from 2015 is nothing more than a monitor from 2015, so is most likely a standard 1080p 60Hz FHD with either Display Port 1.2a/1.3 (upto 4k @ 120Hz) or Hdmi 2.0 (upto 4k @ 60Hz) or Dvi/dvi-d dual.

That was as good as it got back then, when most of the actual 'gaming' monitors were 1080p @ 144Hz and cost a small fortune.
I just looked, asus vg248qe. How does that stand the test of time? Or are we looking to replace that too at this point 😭