PC vs XBOX or PS3

[hash]

Hi,



I was wondering why PS3 and XBOX360's have way way better graphics performance than normal PC's? While onle Nvidia and ATI make the GPU for both . Why cant they make some GPU like that for a PC? Is it because a PC cant handle the performance of a XBOX or PS3?


Why?

 

[invisik]

That's not true pc has much more power then consoles. My pc destroys my previous xbox360 that i had. Consoles may seem more efficient with less hardware but amazing visual is due to the games being greatly optimized for console as well as the consoles only task is playing games while pcs have various other tasks.

 

[coozie7]

Oh.
This is going to get ugly😉

 

[Mousemonkey]

Looks like someone's been munching the stupid pills.

 

[rewindlabs]

Someone hasn't read up on the hype that is 1080p and what is up scaling...lo freaking l....

 

[invisik]

Please correct me if i am mistaken.
=]

 

[maximiza]

PS3 rules since I own stock in Sony...j/k,,,, about the stock that is.

 

[rewindlabs]

Please correct me if i am mistaken.
=]

Somewhat...but "amazing visuals" is a bit off...the sharper image and aa etc that we have at our disposal with pc's is an amazing visual boost and overhead compared to the 360 and ps3 and not to mention things like DX10 yadda yaddda...iv loaded games up side by side on different inputs via my 22" LG comparing my ps3 to my pc....BIG difference...same would go for a 360...its just no comparison for some of us...whilst others see no difference and or just deal with it..

 

[invisik]

Of course i agree 100% pc has much visual power then console but im just saying console with the gpus they have produce very good visuals.
Crysis blows any console game. =D

 

[rewindlabs]

There ok...i mean they only have to run games at a res of 1280x720 or lower so its not that much strain on the gpu and im sure the tlc on coding helps...so price vs visual there good for beginners and the annoying age children between 10-18...

I love my PS3 when im not stuck playing with people whose vocabulary consists of only 4 words and one of them being ***....oh how many parents shouldn't leave there children alone with a game console...

 

[mactronix]

Hi,



I was wondering why PS3 and XBOX360's have way way better graphics performance than normal PC's? While onle Nvidia and ATI make the GPU for both . Why cant they make some GPU like that for a PC? Is it because a PC cant handle the performance of a XBOX or PS3?


Why?

The key phrase i'm picking up here is normal PC's. that to me indicates a unit bought off the shelf and made for all the family. These machines are invariably made with cost in mind and while companies seem to throw a quad in as standard (Wow a quad core say's the uneducated buyer) and (look at all that Ram) etc. These machines just don't have the hardware to play half decent games at any resolution above 1024x768.
That's why a Console would look better than these units, basically because they are. Pitch a Console up against a Gamers of enthusiasts machine and it will soon look very ordinary.

Mactronix

 

[Euphoria_MK]

^+1

 

[rewindlabs]

The key phrase i'm picking up here is normal PC's. that to me indicates a unit bought off the shelf and made for all the family. These machines are invariably made with cost in mind and while companies seem to throw a quad in as standard (Wow a quad core say's the uneducated buyer) and (look at all that Ram) etc. These machines just don't have the hardware to play half decent games at any resolution above 1024x768.
That's why a Console would look better than these units, basically because they are. Pitch a Console up against a Gamers of enthusiasts machine and it will soon look very ordinary.

Mactronix

Yeahp....its like comparing an IGP to a dedicated GPU...WAIT...we are comparing IGP's and HTPC cards to a dedicated gaming GPU....

of course any 100$(give or take a buck) pc graphics card @ 720p can push WAY more visuals than the ps3 or 360...try running the 360 off vga and compare em...fps wise and visuals etc...

 

[Mousemonkey]

Maybe the title of this thread should have been 'Dickhead vs PC users', just a thought.

 

[rewindlabs]

I wouldn't say that as much as some pre pubescent little halo f** trying to find a reason to justify that steaming crap when compared to a gaming pc...

 

[invisik]

One thing that's pissing me off is that crysis 2 is going to be for console and ported for pc? so assuming the graphics are = to crysis 1 or less then?

 

[Mousemonkey]

Hmmm, I still haven't finished Halo 2 myself [:mousemonkey] , 200 FPS keeps making my eyes water. [:mousemonkey:4]

 

[Mousemonkey]

One thing that's pissing me off is that crysis 2 is going to be for console and ported for pc? so assuming the graphics are = to crysis 1 or less then?

Oooh, way less than, think Warhead with bits missing but at least it stands more chance of being coded correctly.

 

[rewindlabs]

Il start googling 2 girls 1 cup/finger before i succumb to learning who she is and what the hell she does.....

 

[turboflame]

 

[drunknmunkys]

Il start googling 2 girls 1 cup/finger before i succumb to learning who she is and what the hell she does.....

I spent 5 minutes, and it was worth it. I love youtube. And I love that they don't block youtube at work. Speaking of which, they're going around and doing layoffs right now which I wasn't aware of until I walked out of my office 10 minutes ago. Perhaps I should stop browsing youtube for a while.

But back on topic...

Yes, your 1000$ PC wins, but ... can you build a PC for 300$ that wins?

This is one of my favorites. Suggestion:

 

[Shadow703793]

 

[Bluescreendeath]

Xbox360 games ran on 720p, but now most 360 games are available in "1080p"

Is this the same thing as a PC running at 1920x1080?

 

[daedalus685]

Yes, your 1000$ PC wins, but ... can you build a PC for 300$ that wins?

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5156/pumpkinsuicidegr3.jpg

You might be hard pressed to do that, but keep in mind a computer does more than gaming. I'd have to assume everyone needs a PC anyway, and everyone would probably spend roughly 500 on it anyway. If you shop smart you can easily get a PC that does all of your "work" (internet + pron + movies + music anyway.. lol) as well as plays games better than a console on your TV (obvioauly teh screen, whatever it is, is extra) for a good bit less than what most people pay for thier console + internet box. At the least it woudl be realyl close.

Though at this level of "gamers" people would probably prefer the simplicity of the console. I simply don't see the selling point being the price.

EDIT: I just saw yuo have a picure there.. it doesnt show up here at work. Therefor you were probalby making an awesome joke that zoomed right over my head 😀

 

[daedalus685]

Xbox360 games ran on 720p, but now most 360 games are available in "1080p"

Is this the same thing as a PC running at 1920x1080?

I was under the impession that the xbox doesnt actually render at 1080p and upscales the 720p. Though I could be wrong.

But anyway, yes, 1080p is the same as 1920*1080.