Question PC won’t boot with GPU installed ?

[ramanbhadu]

Motherboard: ASRock H610M-HDV/M.2 R2.0
CPU: i3-12100
GPU: Zotac Mini 1650
PSU: Cooler Master Elite 350w (white)


My PC works fine without GPU installed.
When I insert GPU it doesn’t boot. The fans don’t even move a little. It remains as if it's powered off.
Latest bios updated today.
Reseated RAM and GPU several times.
8-pin power cable is inserted in CPU power connection on motherboard.
Tried using only single RAM.
PCIe speed is changed in BIOS from Auto to PCIe 3

 

[Lutfij]

PSU: Cooler Master Elite 350w (white)
How old is the unit? Source(borrow, not buy) a reliably built 450W~550W unit and see if the issue persists. If you look up the unit across PSU tier lists, that's actually a dumpster fire waiting to happen.

 

[Third-Eye]

Motherboard: ASRock H610M-HDV/M.2 R2.0
CPU: i3-12100
GPU: Zotac Mini 1650
PSU: Cooler Master Elite 350w (white)


My PC works fine without GPU installed.
When I insert GPU it doesn’t boot. The fans don’t even move a little. It remains as if it's powered off.
Latest bios updated today.
Reseated RAM and GPU several times.
8-pin power cable is inserted in CPU power connection on motherboard.
Tried using only single RAM.
PCIe speed is changed in BIOS from Auto to PCIe 3

Did you plug in the PCIe power cable to the GPU? If your power supply does not have a 6+2pin PCIe cable, you need to buy a new power supply. I would not recommend using an adapter to power the GPU.

 

[ramanbhadu]

Did you plug in the PCIe power cable to the GPU? If your power supply does not have a 6+2pin PCIe cable, you need to buy a new power supply. I would not recommend using an adapter to power the GPU.

It is a small gpu with 75 watt power required and doesn’t have any slot to plug the cable. PSU has 6 pin PciE connector.

 

[boju]

It remains as it is powered off.

Do you mean it remains like it is powered off? Is there any signs of power at all, motherboard leds, cpu fan, or anything else as an indication? Or is system completely dead? Gpu fans don't usually start spinning until it reaches 60c'ish.

What im getting at is, if there is power running through, did you swap the video cable to the card? Because usually an installed gpu disables igpu and if the video cable is still connected to the motherboard video port instead of the gpu then there wouldn't be any video.

 

[ramanbhadu]

Do you mean it remains like it is powered off? Is there any signs of power at all, motherboard leds, cpu fan, or anything else as an indication? Or is system completely dead? Gpu fans don't usually start spinning until it reaches 60c'ish.

What im getting at is, if there is power running through, did you swap the video cable to the card? Because usually an installed gpu disables igpu and if the video cable is still connected to the motherboard video port instead of the gpu then there wouldn't be any video.

It remains completely powered off cpu fan doesn’t move there are no LED on motherboard. The fan of psu and motherboard doesn’t move even slightly.
I connected cable to gpu it didn’t turned on
I connected cable to motherboard it didn’t turned on
I completely removed all cables it didn’t turned on.
The pc turns on when I remove the gpu.

 

[boju]

I suspect it's either graphics card not seating correctly in slot causing a short prevention power up, faulty card or possibly power supply. Going to have to try the card in another computer to rule that out.

 

[ramanbhadu]

I suspect it's either graphics card not seating correctly in slot causing a short prevention power up, faulty card or possibly power supply. Going to have to try the card in another computer to rule that out.

I tried seating the gpu several times. It could be gpu faulty or psu. Is there anything else I can do.

 

[boju]

I tried seating the gpu several times. It could be gpu faulty or psu. Is there anything else I can do.

There isn't much to installing a graphics card so you've likely done everything correctly which leaves you now to test the graphics card elsewhere.

 

[ramanbhadu]

There isn't much to installing a graphics card so you've likely done everything correctly which leaves you now to test the graphics card elsewhere.

I would have tried it in other computer which would have rule out all other things regarding psu but problem is that I don’t have other computer because I live in a village and people use mostly laptops because they are easy.
I’m waiting if anyone had this kind of issue and solved with any other solution.

 

[SkyNetRising]

PSU cooler master elite 350w white colour
Gpu zotac mini 1650

When I insert Gpu it doesn’t boot. The fans don’t even move a little. It remains as it is powered off.

Minimum recommended PSU for Gpu zotac mini 1650 is 300W.

Can you show a photo of PSU label printed on your PSU.
From info available on internet, your psu can provide only up to 276W on two 12V rails (not 350W).

And if you're not using PCIE power cable, then you're getting power only from one of 12V rails - either 120W or 156W.
That is not enough for whole computer plus GPU.

Spoiler

TLDR - get a better PSU 450-550W with single 12V rail.

 

[ramanbhadu]

The ph

Minimum recommended PSU for Gpu zotac mini 1650 is 300W.

Can you show a photo of PSU label printed on your PSU.
From info available on internet, your psu can provide only up to 276W on two 12V rails (not 350W).

And if you're not using PCIE power cable, then you're getting power only from one of 12V rails - either 120W or 156W.
That is not enough for whole computer plus GPU.

Spoiler

TLDR - get a better PSU 450-550W with single 12V rail.

the photo you shared is exactly my psu
Before it i have used 1050ti without any issue
I think processor is 65 and gpu is 75 so it should work around 150 with ssd and ram.
But I don’t have that knowledge about how the power delivery works in psu. My motherboard uses 8 pin connector for cpu and 24 pin to motherboard if it helps as I don’t know which is 12V rail. I have seen on internet that people using 1650 with 250watt psu.

I was also searching for user manual of my psu but was unable to find from where you got the photo if it can lead me to the user manual of my psu

 

[SkyNetRising]

I have seen on internet that people using 1650 with 250watt psu.

They probably have 250W on single 12V rail (not divided between two 12V rails).

 

[ramanbhadu]

They probably have 250W on single 12V rail (not divided between two 12V rails).

I have inserted an 8 pin for cpu and 24 pin for motherboard. Only two cables are connected to motherboard. How can I check what power I am getting. I don’t know what a rail is.

 

[boju]

Did 1050ti use pcie power cable?

 

[SkyNetRising]

I have inserted an 8 pin for cpu and 24 pin for motherboard.
Only two cables are connected to motherboard. How can I check what power I am getting. I don’t know what a rail is.

One 12V rail probably goes through CPU 12V cable.
Other 12V rail probably goes through PCIE power cable.
You're not using PCIE power cable. So your PSU delivers either 120W or 156W on 12V (more likely only 120W).

 

[ramanbhadu]

Did 1050ti use pcie power cable?

No it was only powered through motherboard. It was same as this gpu.
Don’t the components require the higher power when they are put in load or they just need highest power while booting.

One 12V rail probably goes through CPU 12V cable.
Other 12V rail probably goes through PCIE power cable.
You're not using PCIE power cable. So your PSU delivers either 120W or 156W on 12V (more likely only 120W).

Thanks for clearing it up. So can I use a gpu using pcie connector which requires power of 110 watt and my motherboard will be powered by other cable for 80-90 watt whatever it requires ?

 

[boju]

No it was only powered through motherboard. It was same as this gpu.
Don’t the components require the higher power when they are put in load or they just need highest power while booting.

Pcie slot is limited to 75w so i don't think this is a power issue, the 1650 can't draw more than that. Since 1050Ti worked, id say the 1650 is defective. Was it bought second hand? Do you still have 1050ti to get you by while you sort out a return/replacement?

 

[ramanbhadu]

Pcie slot is limited to 75w so i don't think this is a power issue, the 1650 can't draw more than that. Since 1050Ti worked, id say the 1650 is defective. Was it bought second hand? Do you still have 1050ti to get you by while you sort out a return/replacement?

I don’t have the 1050ti any more, and don't have another computer to test the gpu.
I bought the gpu second hand and the guy says it was working in his pc

 

[boju]

I don’t have the 1050ti any more, and don't have another computer to test the gpu.
I bought the gpu second hand and the guy says it was working in his pc

Might've before it left his PC but don't really know what happened to it between then and when it arrived. Do you have a local pc shop you could visit? There's not much else to suggest really besides blowing air in the pcie slot to clean it, the card just doesn't want to work. It's not like there's a bios setting or something, for the computer refuse to power on could only mean a physical problem, as in something is wrong with the card.

 

[ramanbhadu]

Might've before it left his PC but don't really know what happened to it between then and when it arrived. Do you have a local pc shop you could visit? There's not much else to suggest really besides blowing air in the pcie slot to clean it, the card just doesn't want to work. It's not like there's a bios setting or something, for the computer refuse to power on could only mean a physical problem, as in something is wrong with the card.

Yes for any setting problem it should at least go to bios but it doesn’t even move the cpu fan so I think the gpu is faulty.