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I'm trying to network my desktop running XP HE SP2 (Dlink DWL G520 PCI
Wireless adapter) with my laptop running XP HE SP1 (Atheros AR5004G wireless
adapter). The wireless adapters connect with excellent signal strength and
talk to each other, but I can't see any resources from either computer. The
desktop shows all its shared resources and the laptop in My Network Places;
the laptop shows only its own shared resources. The error messages indicate
the roadblock is administrator permission, but this is a ptop network. Help!
TIA!

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"Patrick Page" <patspage@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to network my desktop running XP HE SP2 (Dlink DWL G520 PCI
> Wireless adapter) with my laptop running XP HE SP1 (Atheros AR5004G
wireless
> adapter). The wireless adapters connect with excellent signal strength and
> talk to each other, but I can't see any resources from either computer.
The
> desktop shows all its shared resources and the laptop in My Network
Places;
> the laptop shows only its own shared resources. The error messages
indicate
> the roadblock is administrator permission, but this is a ptop network.
Help!
> TIA!

One of three things I can think of (I went through this hell a while back):

1. Check the connection properties for your adapters on both machines &
compare. I found that my desktop didn't have some of the same
services/clients/protocols "installed" as the laptop did and it was the
laptop that worked in my case. I clicked the install button and installed
every one of those items listed and that worked like a charm.

2. Try mapping a network drive to the laptop. Get the laptop's address, on
the desktop right click on My Computer and select Map Network Drive.

3. Did you setup a network environment? The two most common that Windows
does is Workgroup and MSHome. If you have each computer join a network
environment (just make sure you don't do workgroup on one and mshome on the
other) then they should be able to see each other. I had problems with this
too until I installed all those clients/services/protocols in the properties
section of my connection device.

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In article <#ZUKUvFmEHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
<patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I'm trying to network my desktop running XP HE SP2 (Dlink DWL G520 PCI
>Wireless adapter) with my laptop running XP HE SP1 (Atheros AR5004G wireless
>adapter). The wireless adapters connect with excellent signal strength and
>talk to each other, but I can't see any resources from either computer. The
>desktop shows all its shared resources and the laptop in My Network Places;
>the laptop shows only its own shared resources. The error messages indicate
>the roadblock is administrator permission, but this is a ptop network. Help!
>TIA!

These tips should help you get everything working:

1. Make sure that a firewall isn't blocking access:

1a. Permanently disable the XP HE SP1 Internet Connection Firewall on
the LAN connection.

1b. If the XP HE SP2 Windows Firewall is enabled, make sure that the
exception for File and Printer Sharing is turned on.

1c. If you've installed a third-party firewall program, configure it
to allow access by other computers on the LAN. Disable XP's built-in
firewalls if you've installed a third-part firewall.

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on both computers and look at the "Node Type"
at the beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which
should actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means
that the computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
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1. I already disabled the firewalls on both machines.

2. I already disabled Zone Alarm.

3. TCPIP is the only protocol being used.

4. I enabled NetBIOS over TCPIP. Note that the instructions are covered by
the example on the web site.

5. I found no references to either flavor of PtoP or NodeType. Below are the
Ipconfig results:

The desktop shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; DHCP enabled:
No; IP Address: 192.168.30.1; Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0; Default Gateway:
( none shown)

The notebook shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; Dhcp enabled:
Yes; Auto configuration enabled: Yes; IP address:192.168.0.220 Subnet Mask:
255.255.255.0; Default gateway: 192.168.0.1 Dhcp server: 192.168.0.1 DNS
servers: 192.168.0.1 Lease obtained: ... Lease expires: ...

I hope the above gives you some clues. Many thanks!
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:qon7k098mvj8c0mj7dlvpr2safldsvdabs@4ax.com...
| In article <#ZUKUvFmEHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
| <patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
| >I'm trying to network my desktop running XP HE SP2 (Dlink DWL G520 PCI
| >Wireless adapter) with my laptop running XP HE SP1 (Atheros AR5004G
wireless
| >adapter). The wireless adapters connect with excellent signal strength
and
| >talk to each other, but I can't see any resources from either computer.
The
| >desktop shows all its shared resources and the laptop in My Network
Places;
| >the laptop shows only its own shared resources. The error messages
indicate
| >the roadblock is administrator permission, but this is a ptop network.
Help!
| >TIA!
|
| These tips should help you get everything working:
|
| 1. Make sure that a firewall isn't blocking access:
|
| 1a. Permanently disable the XP HE SP1 Internet Connection Firewall on
| the LAN connection.
|
| 1b. If the XP HE SP2 Windows Firewall is enabled, make sure that the
| exception for File and Printer Sharing is turned on.
|
| 1c. If you've installed a third-party firewall program, configure it
| to allow access by other computers on the LAN. Disable XP's built-in
| firewalls if you've installed a third-part firewall.
|
| 2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
| needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
| but one of them. Details here:
|
| Windows XP Network Protocols
| http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm
|
| 3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers.
| Details here:
|
| Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
| http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm
|
| 4. Run "ipconfig /all" on both computers and look at the "Node Type"
| at the beginning of the output .IfitsaysPeer-to-Peerwhich
| should actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means
| that the computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
| peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.
|
| If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:
|
| HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters
|
| and delete these values if they're present:
|
| NodeType
| DhcpNodeType
|
| Reboot, then try network access again.
|
| If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
| value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
| "Mixed".
|
| For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
|
| Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177
|
| TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
| --
| Best Wishes,
| Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
|
| Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
| for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
| addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
|
| Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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In article <uCMVicTmEHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
<patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
>1. I already disabled the firewalls on both machines.
>
>2. I already disabled Zone Alarm.
>
>3. TCPIP is the only protocol being used.
>
>4. I enabled NetBIOS over TCPIP. Note that the instructions are covered by
>the example on the web site.
>
>5. I found no references to either flavor of PtoP or NodeType. Below are the
>Ipconfig results:
>
>The desktop shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; DHCP enabled:
>No; IP Address: 192.168.30.1; Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0; Default Gateway:
>( none shown)
>
>The notebook shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; Dhcp enabled:
>Yes; Auto configuration enabled: Yes; IP address:192.168.0.220 Subnet Mask:
>255.255.255.0; Default gateway: 192.168.0.1 Dhcp server: 192.168.0.1 DNS
>servers: 192.168.0.1 Lease obtained: ... Lease expires: ...
>
>I hope the above gives you some clues. Many thanks!

If the IP addresses that you listed are right, they're causing the
problem. With a 255.255.255.0 subnet mask, 192.168.30.1 and
192.168.0.1 are in different subnets. so the computers can't
communicate with each other.

Ipconfig on the desktop shows that the IP address was assigned
manually. I recommend changing it to assign an IP address
automatically. Then, the desktop will get a 192.168.0.x IP address
just like the notebook, and they'll be able to communicate.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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Steve, a thousand thanks! That was it.

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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:q84ak0121qjnhu7lc45nj59r4dob10upbn@4ax.com...
| In article <uCMVicTmEHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
| <patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
| >1. I already disabled the firewalls on both machines.
| >
| >2. I already disabled Zone Alarm.
| >
| >3. TCPIP is the only protocol being used.
| >
| >4. I enabled NetBIOS over TCPIP. Note that the instructions are covered
by
| >the example on the web site.
| >
| >5. I found no references to either flavor of PtoP or NodeType. Below are
the
| >Ipconfig results:
| >
| >The desktop shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; DHCP enabled:
| >No; IP Address: 192.168.30.1; Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0; Default
Gateway:
| >( none shown)
| >
| >The notebook shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; Dhcp
enabled:
| >Yes; Auto configuration enabled: Yes; IP address:192.168.0.220 Subnet
Mask:
| >255.255.255.0; Default gateway: 192.168.0.1 Dhcp server: 192.168.0.1 DNS
| >servers: 192.168.0.1 Lease obtained: ... Lease expires: ...
| >
| >I hope the above gives you some clues. Many thanks!
|
| If the IP addresses that you listed are right, they're causing the
| problem. With a 255.255.255.0 subnet mask, 192.168.30.1 and
| 192.168.0.1 are in different subnets. so the computers can't
| communicate with each other.
|
| Ipconfig on the desktop shows that the IP address was assigned
| manually. I recommend changing it to assign an IP address
| automatically. Then, the desktop will get a 192.168.0.x IP address
| just like the notebook, and they'll be able to communicate.
| --
| Best Wishes,
| Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
|
| Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
| for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
| addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
|
| Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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Oops! I spoke too soon. I still can't access any resources across the
connection.
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:q84ak0121qjnhu7lc45nj59r4dob10upbn@4ax.com...
| In article <uCMVicTmEHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
| <patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
| >1. I already disabled the firewalls on both machines.
| >
| >2. I already disabled Zone Alarm.
| >
| >3. TCPIP is the only protocol being used.
| >
| >4. I enabled NetBIOS over TCPIP. Note that the instructions are covered
by
| >the example on the web site.
| >
| >5. I found no references to either flavor of PtoP or NodeType. Below are
the
| >Ipconfig results:
| >
| >The desktop shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; DHCP enabled:
| >No; IP Address: 192.168.30.1; Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0; Default
Gateway:
| >( none shown)
| >
| >The notebook shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; Dhcp
enabled:
| >Yes; Auto configuration enabled: Yes; IP address:192.168.0.220 Subnet
Mask:
| >255.255.255.0; Default gateway: 192.168.0.1 Dhcp server: 192.168.0.1 DNS
| >servers: 192.168.0.1 Lease obtained: ... Lease expires: ...
| >
| >I hope the above gives you some clues. Many thanks!
|
| If the IP addresses that you listed are right, they're causing the
| problem. With a 255.255.255.0 subnet mask, 192.168.30.1 and
| 192.168.0.1 are in different subnets. so the computers can't
| communicate with each other.
|
| Ipconfig on the desktop shows that the IP address was assigned
| manually. I recommend changing it to assign an IP address
| automatically. Then, the desktop will get a 192.168.0.x IP address
| just like the notebook, and they'll be able to communicate.
| --
| Best Wishes,
| Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
|
| Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
| for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
| addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
|
| Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 

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Tia,

Try accessing the computer directly by IP address. Open a windows browser,
such as My Computer, and type in "\\" followed by the IP address of the
other computer. Something like "\\168.192.3.30" That will often fix the
problem when all else seems to be set up correctly.

Jeff


"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:qon7k098mvj8c0mj7dlvpr2safldsvdabs@4ax.com...
> In article <#ZUKUvFmEHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
> <patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>I'm trying to network my desktop running XP HE SP2 (Dlink DWL G520 PCI
>>Wireless adapter) with my laptop running XP HE SP1 (Atheros AR5004G
>>wireless
>>adapter). The wireless adapters connect with excellent signal strength and
>>talk to each other, but I can't see any resources from either computer.
>>The
>>desktop shows all its shared resources and the laptop in My Network
>>Places;
>>the laptop shows only its own shared resources. The error messages
>>indicate
>>the roadblock is administrator permission, but this is a ptop network.
>>Help!
>>TIA!
>
> These tips should help you get everything working:
>
> 1. Make sure that a firewall isn't blocking access:
>
> 1a. Permanently disable the XP HE SP1 Internet Connection Firewall on
> the LAN connection.
>
> 1b. If the XP HE SP2 Windows Firewall is enabled, make sure that the
> exception for File and Printer Sharing is turned on.
>
> 1c. If you've installed a third-party firewall program, configure it
> to allow access by other computers on the LAN. Disable XP's built-in
> firewalls if you've installed a third-part firewall.
>
> 2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
> needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
> but one of them. Details here:
>
> Windows XP Network Protocols
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm
>
> 3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers.
> Details here:
>
> Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm
>
> 4. Run "ipconfig /all" on both computers and look at the "Node Type"
> at the beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which
> should actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means
> that the computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
> peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.
>
> If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:
>
> HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters
>
> and delete these values if they're present:
>
> NodeType
> DhcpNodeType
>
> Reboot, then try network access again.
>
> If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
> value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
> "Mixed".
>
> For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
>
> Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177
>
> TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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No joy here either.

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"Jeff" <v@v.com> wrote in message
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| Tia,
|
| Try accessing the computer directly by IP address. Open a windows browser,
| such as My Computer, and type in "\\" followed by the IP address of the
| other computer. Something like "\\168.192.3.30" That will often fix the
| problem when all else seems to be set up correctly.
|
| Jeff
|
|
| "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd@pobox.com> wrote in message
| news:qon7k098mvj8c0mj7dlvpr2safldsvdabs@4ax.com...
| > In article <#ZUKUvFmEHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
| > <patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
| >>I'm trying to network my desktop running XP HE SP2 (Dlink DWL G520 PCI
| >>Wireless adapter) with my laptop running XP HE SP1 (Atheros AR5004G
| >>wireless
| >>adapter). The wireless adapters connect with excellent signal strength
and
| >>talk to each other, but I can't see any resources from either computer.
| >>The
| >>desktop shows all its shared resources and the laptop in My Network
| >>Places;
| >>the laptop shows only its own shared resources. The error messages
| >>indicate
| >>the roadblock is administrator permission, but this is a ptop network.
| >>Help!
| >>TIA!
| >
| > These tips should help you get everything working:
| >
| > 1. Make sure that a firewall isn't blocking access:
| >
| > 1a. Permanently disable the XP HE SP1 Internet Connection Firewall on
| > the LAN connection.
| >
| > 1b. If the XP HE SP2 Windows Firewall is enabled, make sure that the
| > exception for File and Printer Sharing is turned on.
| >
| > 1c. If you've installed a third-party firewall program, configure it
| > to allow access by other computers on the LAN. Disable XP's built-in
| > firewalls if you've installed a third-part firewall.
| >
| > 2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
| > needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
| > but one of them. Details here:
| >
| > Windows XP Network Protocols
| > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm
| >
| > 3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers.
| > Details here:
| >
| > Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
| > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm
| >
| > 4. Run "ipconfig /all" on both computers and look at the "Node Type"
| > at the beginning of the output .IfitsaysPeer-to-Peerwhich
| > should actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means
| > that the computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
| > peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.
| >
| > If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:
| >
| > HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters
| >
| > and delete these values if they're present:
| >
| > NodeType
| > DhcpNodeType
| >
| > Reboot, then try network access again.
| >
| > If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
| > value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
| > "Mixed".
| >
| > For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
| >
| > Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177
| >
| > TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
| > --
| > Best Wishes,
| > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
| >
| > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
| > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
| > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
| >
| > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
| > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
|
|
 
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New ipconfig results: The desktop shows:
Description: ...; Physical address: ...; DHCP enabled: Yes;
Autoconfiguration enabled: Yes; IP Address: 4.11.130.172; Subnet Mask:
255.255.248.0; Default Gateway: 4.11.128.1; DHCP Server: 209.244.7.5; DNS
Servers 4.2.2.65 4.2.2.5 4.2.2.6; Lease obtained: ...
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:q84ak0121qjnhu7lc45nj59r4dob10upbn@4ax.com...
| In article <uCMVicTmEHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
| <patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
| >1. I already disabled the firewalls on both machines.
| >
| >2. I already disabled Zone Alarm.
| >
| >3. TCPIP is the only protocol being used.
| >
| >4. I enabled NetBIOS over TCPIP. Note that the instructions are covered
by
| >the example on the web site.
| >
| >5. I found no references to either flavor of PtoP or NodeType. Below are
the
| >Ipconfig results:
| >
| >The desktop shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; DHCP enabled:
| >No; IP Address: 192.168.30.1; Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0; Default
Gateway:
| >( none shown)
| >
| >The notebook shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; Dhcp
enabled:
| >Yes; Auto configuration enabled: Yes; IP address:192.168.0.220 Subnet
Mask:
| >255.255.255.0; Default gateway: 192.168.0.1 Dhcp server: 192.168.0.1 DNS
| >servers: 192.168.0.1 Lease obtained: ... Lease expires: ...
| >
| >I hope the above gives you some clues. Many thanks!
|
| If the IP addresses that you listed are right, they're causing the
| problem. With a 255.255.255.0 subnet mask, 192.168.30.1 and
| 192.168.0.1 are in different subnets. so the computers can't
| communicate with each other.
|
| Ipconfig on the desktop shows that the IP address was assigned
| manually. I recommend changing it to assign an IP address
| automatically. Then, the desktop will get a 192.168.0.x IP address
| just like the notebook, and they'll be able to communicate.
| --
| Best Wishes,
| Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
|
| Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
| for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
| addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
|
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In article <e#MCUOVmEHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
<patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>I'm trying to network my desktop running XP HE SP2 (Dlink DWL G520 PCI
>>>>>Wireless adapter) with my laptop running XP HE SP1 (Atheros AR5004G wireless
>>>>>adapter). The wireless adapters connect with excellent signal strength and
>>>>>talk to each other, but I can't see any resources from either computer. The
>>>>>desktop shows all its shared resources and the laptop in My Network Places;
>>>>>the laptop shows only its own shared resources. The error messages indicate
>>>>>the roadblock is administrator permission, but this is a ptop network. Help!
>>>>>TIA!
>|>
>| >Ipconfig results:
>| >
>| >The desktop shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; DHCP enabled:
>| >No; IP Address: 192.168.30.1; Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0; Default
>Gateway:
>| >( none shown)
>| >
>| >The notebook shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; Dhcp
>enabled:
>| >Yes; Auto configuration enabled: Yes; IP address:192.168.0.220 Subnet
>Mask:
>| >255.255.255.0; Default gateway: 192.168.0.1 Dhcp server: 192.168.0.1 DNS
>| >servers: 192.168.0.1 Lease obtained: ... Lease expires: ...
>| >
>| >I hope the above gives you some clues. Many thanks!
>|
>| If the IP addresses that you listed are right, they're causing the
>| problem. With a 255.255.255.0 subnet mask, 192.168.30.1 and
>| 192.168.0.1 are in different subnets. so the computers can't
>| communicate with each other.
>|
>| Ipconfig on the desktop shows that the IP address was assigned
>| manually. I recommend changing it to assign an IP address
>| automatically. Then, the desktop will get a 192.168.0.x IP address
>| just like the notebook, and they'll be able to communicate.
>
>New ipconfig results: The desktop shows:
>Description: ...; Physical address: ...; DHCP enabled: Yes;
>Autoconfiguration enabled: Yes; IP Address: 4.11.130.172; Subnet Mask:
>255.255.248.0; Default Gateway: 4.11.128.1; DHCP Server: 209.244.7.5; DNS
>Servers 4.2.2.65 4.2.2.5 4.2.2.6; Lease obtained: ...

It seems that I don't understand your setup, Patrick.

The desktop has a public IP address assigned by Verizon DSL. The
laptop has a private IP address assigned by an Internet sharing device
of some sort -- it could be a home broadband router, or it could be
that the desktop has enabled Internet Connection Sharing on a DSL
connection.

Does the desktop have more than one network connection? What exactly
appears in the Network Connections folder? Is there a wireless one
(connecting to the laptop) and a wired and/or PPPoE one (connecting to
DSL)?

Do you have a wireless router? If so, how does each computer connect
to it: wired or wireless?

Do you have an external DSL modem? If so, what does it plug into? If
it plugs into a home broadband router, make sure that it's plugged
into the router's WAN (Internet) port, not into a LAN port.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Thanks for your patience, Steve. The desktop has a simple DSL connection to
Verizon and a wireless adapter through which I want to give my laptop
internet access and be able to share files and printers. The laptop has a
wireless adapter and a disabled ethernet adapter. No router anywhere in the
picture. Both adapters are set to acquire IP addresses automatically. The
c: drives on both systems are set for simple file sharing. The laptop now
shows Node Type: Mixed; IP Routing enabled: No; WINS proxy enabled: No.

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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:nhgak09r4q8erlip12e7795jmkgbt6s3pb@4ax.com...
| In article <e#MCUOVmEHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
| <patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
| >>>>>I'm trying to network my desktop running XP HE SP2 (Dlink DWL G520
PCI
| >>>>>Wireless adapter) with my laptop running XP HE SP1 (Atheros AR5004G
wireless
| >>>>>adapter). The wireless adapters connect with excellent signal
strength and
| >>>>>talk to each other, but I can't see any resources from either
computer. The
| >>>>>desktop shows all its shared resources and the laptop in My Network
Places;
| >>>>>the laptop shows only its own shared resources. The error messages
indicate
| >>>>>the roadblock is administrator permission, but this is a ptop
network. Help!
| >>>>>TIA!
| >|>
| >| >Ipconfig results:
| >| >
| >| >The desktop shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; DHCP
enabled:
| >| >No; IP Address: 192.168.30.1; Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0; Default
| >Gateway:
| >| >( none shown)
| >| >
| >| >The notebook shows: Description: ...; Physical address: ...; Dhcp
| >enabled:
| >| >Yes; Auto configuration enabled: Yes; IP address:192.168.0.220 Subnet
| >Mask:
| >| >255.255.255.0; Default gateway: 192.168.0.1 Dhcp server: 192.168.0.1
DNS
| >| >servers: 192.168.0.1 Lease obtained: ... Lease expires: ...
| >| >
| >| >I hope the above gives you some clues. Many thanks!
| >|
| >| If the IP addresses that you listed are right, they're causing the
| >| problem. With a 255.255.255.0 subnet mask, 192.168.30.1 and
| >| 192.168.0.1 are in different subnets. so the computers can't
| >| communicate with each other.
| >|
| >| Ipconfig on the desktop shows that the IP address was assigned
| >| manually. I recommend changing it to assign an IP address
| >| automatically. Then, the desktop will get a 192.168.0.x IP address
| >| just like the notebook, and they'll be able to communicate.
| >
| >New ipconfig results: The desktop shows:
| >Description: ...; Physical address: ...; DHCP enabled: Yes;
| >Autoconfiguration enabled: Yes; IP Address: 4.11.130.172; Subnet Mask:
| >255.255.248.0; Default Gateway: 4.11.128.1; DHCP Server: 209.244.7.5; DNS
| >Servers 4.2.2.65 4.2.2.5 4.2.2.6; Lease obtained: ...
|
| It seems that I don't understand your setup, Patrick.
|
| The desktop has a public IP address assigned by Verizon DSL. The
| laptop has a private IP address assigned by an Internet sharing device
| of some sort -- it could be a home broadband router, or it could be
| that the desktop has enabled Internet Connection Sharing on a DSL
| connection.
|
| Does the desktop have more than one network connection? What exactly
| appears in the Network Connections folder? Is there a wireless one
| (connecting to the laptop) and a wired and/or PPPoE one (connecting to
| DSL)?
|
| Do you have a wireless router? If so, how does each computer connect
| to it: wired or wireless?
|
| Do you have an external DSL modem? If so, what does it plug into? If
| it plugs into a home broadband router, make sure that it's plugged
| into the router's WAN (Internet) port, not into a LAN port.
| --
| Best Wishes,
| Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
|
| Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
| for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
| addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
|
| Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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In article <uFdrGQXmEHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
<patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks for your patience, Steve. The desktop has a simple DSL connection to
>Verizon and a wireless adapter through which I want to give my laptop
>internet access and be able to share files and printers. The laptop has a
>wireless adapter and a disabled ethernet adapter. No router anywhere in the
>picture. Both adapters are set to acquire IP addresses automatically. The
>c: drives on both systems are set for simple file sharing. The laptop now
>shows Node Type: Mixed; IP Routing enabled: No; WINS proxy enabled: No.

You're welcome, Patrick. Thanks for the details of your setup.

You need to set up an Ad-hoc wireless network between the desktop and
laptop computers and enable Internet Connection Sharing on the
desktop's DSL (PPPoE) connection. Barb Bowman has written a web page
that should help you get everything working:

Making the Wireless Home Network Connection in Windows XP Without a
Router
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_02april08.mspx

Do you have an external DSL modem? If so, your network setup would be
simpler and more reliable if you got a wireless router, connected the
DSL modem to its WAN port, and connected the computers to it using
either a wired or wireless connection.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Thanks again. I've ordered a router as you suggested, but am eager to get
connected now. I followed Barb Bowman's instructions (very clear), but find
an obstacle at this step:
*******************************************************************************************************************************
Sharing the Connection
Now that a successful ad hoc wireless network has been created, we'll set up
Internet Connection Sharing.

1.
Open Network Connections on the host computer. (Click Start, click
Control Panel, click Switch to classic view, and then click Network
Connections.

2.
Click the connection to be shared, and under Network Tasks, click
Change settings of this connection.

3.
On the Advanced tab, select the Allow other network users to connect
through this computer's Internet connection check box.

4.
If you are not using a third party firewall and have not already set up
the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF), be sure to check the box enabling
this feature. (Read more about why to enable ICF in an earlier column, Don't
Let the Defense Rest.)

5.
Finally, optionally enable the setting to let other users control or
enable this connection.


After completing ICS configuration, the Network Connection window on the
host computer will display the original wired Ethernet connection and
display the status as Shared as well as Enabled. The Network Connection
window on the client computer will display the connection on the host as an
Internet Gateway.

****************************************************************************************************************************

This is where the trouble begins:

The DSL connection simply appears as "Local Area Connection" with no status
of Shared or Enabled, and the client does not see the Internet Gateway.


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news:jdqak05a4qv6nlg4kuufpqnnqgeqhr0p54@4ax.com...
| In article <uFdrGQXmEHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, "Patrick Page"
| <patspage@hotmail.com> wrote:
| >Thanks for your patience, Steve. The desktop has a simple DSL connection
to
| >Verizon and a wireless adapter through which I want to give my laptop
| >internet access and be able to share files and printers. The laptop has a
| >wireless adapter and a disabled ethernet adapter. No router anywhere in
the
| >picture. Both adapters are set to acquire IP addresses automatically.
The
| >c: drives on both systems are set for simple file sharing. The laptop now
| >shows Node Type: Mixed; IP Routing enabled: No; WINS proxy enabled: No.
|
| You're welcome, Patrick. Thanks for the details of your setup.
|
| You need to set up an Ad-hoc wireless network between the desktop and
| laptop computers and enable Internet Connection Sharing on the
| desktop's DSL (PPPoE) connection. Barb Bowman has written a web page
| that should help you get everything working:
|
| Making the Wireless Home Network Connection in Windows XP Without a
| Router
|
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_02april08.mspx
|
| Do you have an external DSL modem? If so, your network setup would be
| simpler and more reliable if you got a wireless router, connected the
| DSL modem to its WAN port, and connected the computers to it using
| either a wired or wireless connection.
| --
| Best Wishes,
| Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
|
| Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
| for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
| addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
|
| Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com