Pentium g3258 vs FX 4300

[morajkar_v]

Wanted to build a budget PC that will run games as well as do photoshop and Coreldraw.

Please suggest the best option out of these 2.

Thanks Many!

 

[daniel_blacke]

The most likely answer off the top of my head is going to be the fx 4300. More cores and all...

 

[rowdymoody]

They are pretty close in performance. The Intel has better single core performance, while the fx 4300 will run multi thread applications better. As far as gaming goes the difference will be negligible. I would go with the fx 4300 because of the extra cores for other applications. (some games will benefit from the quad core as well.) Give it a good overclock and you should be in a pretty decent spot.

 

[utgotye]

Both will overclock fairly well. The G3258 will win on the basis of single core performance. However, anything that can make full use of both cores on the G3258 will probably run better on the AMD simply because it can spread the load across twice as many cores.

 

[morajkar_v]

They are pretty close in performance. The Intel has better single core performance, while the fx 4300 will run multi thread applications better. As far as gaming goes the difference will be negligible. I would go with the fx 4300 because of the extra cores for other applications. (some games will benefit from the quad core as well.) Give it a good overclock and you should be in a pretty decent spot.

Thanks for your reply. Two things.

1. Do you think next gen games like witcher 3 and far cry 4 will perform better if I go with FX as I've heard ppl saying about these games r not optimized for dual cores. (I'll b using R7 260X)
2. Does Photoshop and CD uses more than 2 cores / threads.

Thanks again.

 

[daniel_blacke]

Particular to your application- Photoshop will use as many cores as you can throw at it, so in the case of these two processors and the fact that you plan to use photoshop, the FX 4300 is the winner, easily.

 

[daniel_blacke]

1. Do you think next gen games like witcher 3 and far cry 4 will perform better if I go with FX as I've heard ppl saying about these games r not optimized for dual cores. (I'll b using R7 260X)
2. Does Photoshop and CD uses more than 2 cores / threads.

Thanks again.

1. Yes
2. Yes

 

[maddogfargo]

The FX 6300 is only slightly more than the 4300. Worth getting, especially for multicore capable apps/games.

 

[rowdymoody]

For games like the witcher 3 and far cry 4, also GTAV, you will benefit more from the quad core. We are quickly coming around the bend where a 2 core processor will simply no longer be good enough for gaming on new titles.

Photoshop is written to take advantage of additional cores, the difference may not be huge but it is there. Supposedly in Photoshop after 4 cores you start to get diminishing returns per additional core, so 2 to 4 is kind of the sweet spot for Photoshop at the moment.

I am not familiar with Coreldraw at all, but I would imagine that it would take advantage of multiple cores as well.

 

[Vlad Rose]

If you're looking at running Witcher 3 or other current recent games, you're probably going to need to go with something more powerful than a g3258 or fx 4300 as the requirements are pretty steep.

Photoshop can take advantage of as many cores/threads you throw at it. Same with Corel Draw. Diminishing returns do kick in though; depending on the usage.

 

[morajkar_v]

For games like the witcher 3 and far cry 4, also GTAV, you will benefit more from the quad core. We are quickly coming around the bend where a 2 core processor will simply no longer be good enough for gaming on new titles.

Photoshop is written to take advantage of additional cores, the difference may not be huge but it is there. Supposedly in Photoshop after 4 cores you start to get diminishing returns per additional core, so 2 to 4 is kind of the sweet spot for Photoshop at the moment.

I am not familiar with Coreldraw at all, but I would imagine that it would take advantage of multiple cores as well.

Thanks for your opinion and expertise.. wanted to select yours as best answer.... but accidentally clicked daniels 🙁

 

[rowdymoody]

haha, no problem bud. Best of luck with your new build.

 

[daniel_blacke]

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Thanks for your opinion and expertise.. wanted to select yours as best answer.... but accidentally clicked daniels 🙁

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[DubbleClick]

The fx 4300 isn't even much (~10% on same clock speed) faster than the pentium (once overclocked) in multi threaded applications. It's (the g3258) the superior cpu for gaming.

 

[con635]

It's (the g3258) the superior cpu for gaming.

Any benches of newer games? The only one ive seen comparing the 2 was pclabs gta5 and the pentium was crushed, 9fps minimums iirc.
@op the 860k is a better choice than the 4300, it has slightly better ipc but much better motherboards and they're slightly cheaper, well, here anyway.

 

[DubbleClick]

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/CPU-Hardware-154106/Tests/Pentium-G3258-Test-1128052/

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/700?vs=1265

Keep in mind the pentium gets to 4.4ghz easily on a $40 motherboard with the stock cooler, which equals a 37,5% performance increase.
The fx 4300 on the other hand might go to 4.2ghz on an equally cheap motherboard and the stock cooler, which is a 5% performance increase.

The fx 4300 costs more than the pentium anyway, tho.

 

[LookItsRain]

Just to add my 2 cents, i refuse to recommend the g3258, 2 threads is simply not enough for real world use and will cause stuttering issues and terrible frame time variance even at high overclocks, lowest for gaming etc i would go is an i3.

 

[DubbleClick]

On 4.78 ghz the pentium g3258 is exactly the speed of an i3 4160 in evenly 4 threaded scenarios where hyper threading adds 30% performance, though.

 

[LookItsRain]

On 4.78 ghz the pentium g3258 is exactly the speed of an i3 4160 in evenly 4 threaded scenarios where hyper threading adds 30% performance, though.

In benchmarks were nothing else is running in the background. Also, i3s give much better min and avg fps in newer games and wont have frame drops if you have anything else running the background that requires some cpu resources.

Also, 4.8 ghz requires a decent mobo and a cooler, which by the time you pay for that, you could buy an i3 anyways.

 

[DubbleClick]

On 4.78 ghz the pentium g3258 is exactly the speed of an i3 4160 in evenly 4 threaded scenarios where hyper threading adds 30% performance, though.

In benchmarks were nothing else is running in the background. Also, i3s give much better min and avg fps in newer games and wont have frame drops if you have anything else running the background that requires some cpu resources.

Also, 4.8 ghz requires a decent mobo and a cooler, which by the time you pay for that, you could buy an i3 anyways.

Right. But a at 4.2-4.4ghz which are achievable on the stock cooler and the same cheap motherboard that you'd choose with an i3, a $70 cpu with close (or better, in single threaded scenarios) performance to a $140 cpu is certainly a good deal.

 

[LookItsRain]

On 4.78 ghz the pentium g3258 is exactly the speed of an i3 4160 in evenly 4 threaded scenarios where hyper threading adds 30% performance, though.

In benchmarks were nothing else is running in the background. Also, i3s give much better min and avg fps in newer games and wont have frame drops if you have anything else running the background that requires some cpu resources.

Also, 4.8 ghz requires a decent mobo and a cooler, which by the time you pay for that, you could buy an i3 anyways.

Right. But a at 4.2-4.4ghz which are achievable on the stock cooler and the same cheap motherboard that you'd choose with an i3, a $70 cpu with close (or better, in single threaded scenarios) performance to a $140 cpu is certainly a good deal.

An i3 is 100 +- 10 dollars.

 

[DubbleClick]

Uh, true, goes for ~$110. I somehow had $140 in mind.

 

[con635]

On 4.78 ghz the pentium g3258 is exactly the speed of an i3 4160 in evenly 4 threaded scenarios where hyper threading adds 30% performance, though.

A little late but even oc'd in games the i3 beats the pentium in frame time variance, fps isnt everytthing eg in far cry 4 fps doesn't tell the story, pentium beats the athlon in fps hands down but suffers very visible stutter where the athlon doesnt. Read toms review of the pentium, in frame time in most games the pentium is around athlon 750k level, i3 is a class above both.