People lying about Crysis 3 benchmarks

[blake1243]

My living room pc that i use for gaming has the following
HD7770
msi h61 mobo
8gb ddr3
pentium g860

When i play crysis 3 on medium settings@1080p i get 30 fps but it drops into 20's a bit. On low i get 45 fps.

I expected results like this as my system is nowhere near high, but was just to replace my console. But i look on the crysis forums and other people with 7770's claim to get high with like 60 fps. I even see videos with people playing crysis 3 on high and "saying" there using the 7770.

My question:
Anybody else with similar specs wanna share there FPS results from the Beta?

P.S
even at 45 fps the game does not feel smooth. everyother game i have the runs at 45 fps feels nice and smooth >.>. should i expect better optimizations from the official release? i don't really wanna but it if it runs like shi*t.

 

[antonisrsx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzveaODD_Kw
i7 950 and hd 6850
the gpu is very similar to your's
at 1920*1080 and everything on low my avg is 60-70fps.. check your cpu usage while you play the game!!

 

[devastator39]

The reason why people are getting higher frame rates is because of their Processor, The Pentium G860 would cause a massive bottleneck on your graphics card, you would need to get a better processor in order to get the highest possible FPS.

Just in case you dont know what i mean by bottleneck, it is a term used when GPUs are proccessing data much faster than what your processor can handle, meaning that you are losing FPS along the way through this problem. No one would really notice it unless playing an incredibly high end game.

 

[blake1243]

The reason why people are getting higher frame rates is because of their Processor, The Pentium G860 would cause a massive bottleneck on your graphics card, you would need to get a better processor in order to get the highest possible FPS.

Just in case you dont know what i mean by bottleneck, it is a term used when GPUs are proccessing data much faster than what your processor can handle, meaning that you are losing FPS along the way through this problem. No one would really notice it unless playing an incredibly high end game.

Are you NUTS? the G860 was part of toms $500 builder marathon build. Its the same thing as an i3, but without hyperthreading. Seriously dude, i hate when people just see pentium and don't do any kind of research. The G860 doesn't even bottleneck the 7850.

 

[antonisrsx]

Are you NUTS? the G860 was part of toms $500 builder marathon build. Its the same thing as an i3, but without hyperthreading. Seriously dude, i hate when people just see pentium and don't do any kind of research. The G860 doesn't even bottleneck the 7850.

cpu usage for 2min gameplay
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/cpuusaget.jpg/
my cpu is at stock clock!

 

[blake1243]

I am not saying its a beast cpu, just saying there is no way it will bottleneck a 7770.

 

[antonisrsx]

i agree with you.. in 90% of games the g860 is perfect but some games are very cpu intensive.. i dont know for crysis 3 but as it seems from my experience this game loves more cores! check your cpu/gpu usage while you are gaming and tell us! I am very curious about the cpu usage!

 

[devastator39]

sorry guys, i dont wanna cause an argument. I built a G860 pentium rig for a friend a week or so back, and it didnt run battlefield 3 well. Its always the first assumption thats all. However, Crysis 3 is a very cpu intensive game (at the fact it does make my AMD FX 8320 run hot), so in a sense your cpu will be your problem.

 

[Kamen_BG]

Actually i don't know why but Tom's hardware seems to overrate the Intel Pentiums.
When they came out, i remember that their gaming performance was similar to that of Athlon X3's, which is far below Core i3's and Phenom II X4's.
And those people aren't lying. I was getting around 40 FPS (minimum details with HD textures on) on Crysis 3 Alpha MP and keep in mind that i'm using a HD 5770 which is quite a lot slower than a HD 7770.
Still my processor isn;t exactly what i consider powerfull.It's a lowly AMD quad.
Bottom line is you are heavily bottlenecked by that Pentium.

 

[devastator39]

Something does confuse me though if you have a dual core proccessor how come you have 8 threads???

 

[devastator39]

Actually i don't know why but Tom's hardware seems to overrate the Intel Pentiums.
When they came out, i remember that their gaming performance was similar to that of Athlon X3's, which is far below Core i3's and Phenom II X4's.
And those people aren't lying. I was getting around 40 FPS (minimum details with HD textures on) on Crysis 3 Alpha MP and keep in mind that i'm using a HD 5770 which is quite a lot slower than a HD 7770.
Still my processor isn;t exactly what i consider powerfull.It's a lowly AMD quad.
Bottom line is you are heavily bottlenecked by that Pentium.

Dont underrate your system, its pretty decent if it can do that framerate in crysis 3 alpha (when it really wasnt optimised). Plus the 5770 is a brilliant card.

 

[antonisrsx]

Something does confuse me though if you have a dual core proccessor how come you have 8 threads???

all desktop i7s are quadcore!

 

[devastator39]

all desktop i7s are quadcore!

My Bad, just realised it wasn't blakes rig.

 

[blake1243]

There core per core performance is miles ahead of athlon's due to the sandy architecture. I run BF3 just fine lol. Also, i downloaded the 13.2 beta drivers from amd and i get about 20 more fps. the similar priced phenom might have been a better buy, but it will pay off when i throw a $179 i5 3470 in it.

 

[Kamen_BG]

I agree that my PC is pretty good. It is yet to see a game it can't play, but according to most benchmarks his PC should outperform mine by a large margin.

And also take a look at this picture.
http://gamegpu.ru/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/Crysis%203%20beta/crysis_3-beta%20proz.jpg
The Phenom II X4 940 gets twice the FPS of the Phenom II X2.
Following the same logic, he should be getting 15% less than a half of the 2500K's FPS, which should is less than 40.
This more than proves that he is experiancing a CPU bottleneck.

 

[blake1243]

I guess some multiplayer games struggle on dual cores. I guess the benchmarks show the pentiums doing good because single player games generally don't use as many cores as say, bf3 64 man server. After the update i get 50-60 fps on low, 30-35 on medium. in games like BF3 30+ seemed very playable to me, why does 40+ on crysis 3 just seem jittery.... well, maybe its just me. The screen doesn't tear or anything it just seems like the screen bounces. Maybe its just the environment. It feels smooth and bouncy at the same time. And btw if it is a cpu bottleneck, this is the FIRST game i have gotten bottlenecked in. Its pretty snappy, and outperforms the phenom in games that only use 2 cores.

 

[Kamen_BG]

Yes... it will pay off if you add a Core i5 in, but is it really worth spending 180$ more?
It seems that the games you play can utilise a lot of cores, so why not go for a Quad in the first place?

 

[blake1243]

Yes... it will pay off if you add a Core i5 in, but is it really worth spending 180$ more?
It seems that the games you play can utilise a lot of cores, so why not go for a Quad in the first place?

The pentium is only $60. Id love to use it in another build (HTPC or something). When i was building, i got loads of recommendations for the pentium over the phenom... lol. I don't even know if i should pre-order crysis 3 or just use that money towards an i5 :lol:

 

[blake1243]

Also keep in mind i was playing at 1080p. i don't mind 720p if it will run smoother. The whole point the this build was the replace my console in the living room. So 1080p with low/medium in crysis 3 is far better then it will be on the consoles

 

[Kamen_BG]

Well then your PC will more than get the job done.
It will always provide better graphics, frame rate and higher resolutions than a current generation console. No doubt about that.

 

[blake1243]

UPDATE:

I don't think its my computer for the most part. Because i just turned on the high preset and it still gives me 30 fps. I turned on afterburner, and when i play on high i get 100% gpu usage... but on medium i get 70% gpu usage and the same fps. on very high preset i get 20-25 fps. The performance on this game is just really weird. I think a few more patches and it should be fixed .

 

[blake1243]

Update: after switching to high preset as AMD recommends on there site i am now on a solid 35-50 fps (no aa). I guess running really low settings puts all the stress on the CPU. I shouldn't have underestimated the 7770 by just setting it on low as soon as the game booted up lol. Tommorow i will use the fraps benchmark tool and get min max and average for every preset and aa. So people with similar specs (core 2 duo, or pentium g) with a 7770, 6850 will possibly get. Good night! I have found the game alot more enjoyable without the fps just jumping so much . GPU usage is now 100 with the high preset.

 

[devastator39]

Fraps i really wouldnt recommend for benchmarking, you lose FPS using it.

 

[Motopsychojdn]

Try Msi Afterburner for fps measurement
Moto

 

[blake1243]

Update:

High benchmark:

min: 22 fps
max: 46 fps
avg: 34.8 fps

I will do medium and low soon.

P.S
Crysis 3 seems to only bottleneck my sandy dual core on lower settings. I think this is the same reason they benchmark CPU's at low resolutions, because the lower the settings/resolution the more load it puts on the CPU.