Performance hit when swapping Core2 Quad Q6600 for Intel Pentium Dual Core G3220 3.0GHz Socket 1150

[zappo]

I currently have a Core2 Quad Q6600 I do not use it for gaming just demanding PC work, mostly I am online with about 5 firefox sessions each with 20 odd tabs. I have 8gb of ram and will buy the same.

The Core2 Quad Q6600 runs very fast when overclocked but it also uses a lot of power which is costing me a fortune.

I worked out that I could afford to buy a new low power consuming PC with the reduced energy costs, my question is can I buy a low power modern CPU like the Intel Pentium Dual Core G3220 3.0GHz Socket 1150 and get similar performance to the Core2 Quad Q6600?

I am going to swap out two 750gb hard disks for a hybrid 2tb SSD which consumes about the third of the power of a single 750gb.

My case is a Silverstone so I need micro ATX and am considering a Gigabyte GA-H81M-D2V

I know that a Z87 based system will offer greater upgrade opportunity in the future but the cost of Z87 Gigabyte MATX is nearly double the H81, so for now I just want to replace with a cheap enough combo and get similar performance.

My current rig gets 7.3 on Windows Experience CPU Some sites say this delivers 7.1 but it is real world experience I want to know about, I can't stand a sluggish PC and I guess the SSD Hybrid will help as my hard disks are slowest components at 5.8.

If anyone has any "don't buy this buy that" because it is similar in price but performs a lot better then I would love to hear from you.

Cheers!

 

[Hello man]

I currently have a Core2 Quad Q6600 I do not use it for gaming just demanding PC work, mostly I am online with about 5 firefox sessions each with 20 odd tabs. I have 8gb of ram and will buy the same.

The Core2 Quad Q6600 runs very fast when overclocked but it also uses a lot of power which is costing me a fortune.

I worked out that I could afford to buy a new low power consuming PC with the reduced energy costs, my question is can I buy a low power modern CPU like the Intel Pentium Dual Core G3220 3.0GHz Socket 1150 and get similar performance to the Core2 Quad Q6600?

I am going to swap out two 750gb hard disks for a hybrid 2tb SSD which consumes about the third of the power of a single 750gb.

My case is a Silverstone so I need micro ATX and am considering a Gigabyte GA-H81M-D2V

I know that a Z87 based system will offer greater upgrade opportunity in the future but the cost of Z87 Gigabyte MATX is nearly double the H81, so for now I just want to replace with a cheap enough combo and get similar performance.

My current rig gets 7.3 on Windows Experience CPU Some sites say this delivers 7.1 but it is real world experience I want to know about, I can't stand a sluggish PC and I guess the SSD Hybrid will help as my hard disks are slowest components at 5.8.

If anyone has any "don't buy this buy that" because it is similar in price but performs a lot better then I would love to hear from you.

Cheers!

Does your motherboard support that processor? The Pentiums are not of the Core line, which is a far better processor tech. That processor does not support hyper threading, so a serious disadvantage there. I know very few laptops that use two threads/cores. My Macbook Pro 13 inch has 4 threads.

 

[GhislainG]

Unless your Q6600 is overclocked, the G3220 will be a bit faster.

I would buy an SSD and keep the hard disk as it doesn't draw enough power to justify replacing it. An SSD will make your system far more responsive than an hybryd drive. Since you can't stand a sluggish system, get an SSD. I've switched to an SSD and it makes a huge difference.

WEI is not very useful to determine if a system performs well or not.

 

[Lunatasian]

"Hello man" did not read your question at all. It angers me to see such ignorance on forums. As for your question, I would stay away from Z87 motherboards because you don't really seem to be a gamer. If you get the H81 motherboards, keep in mind that you will not be able to overclock. (However there is some news going around about ECS enabling overclocking on H81s but don't know too much about that. ) Also the G3220 performs better in single and multi threaded tasks (surprisingly), according to cpu-world. And ofc the power consumption is quite a bit lower. So if you're not going to be gaming or doing heavy or intense tasks, just get the Pentium, as it is a great processor, and if you're using the lga 1150 socket, you have a lot of awesome upgrade options.
Best of luck.
Edit: Also, WEI SUCKS, and is not very helpful.

Hope I helped!

-Lunatasian

 

[zappo]

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Does your motherboard support that processor? The Pentiums are not of the Core line, which is a far better processor tech. That processor does not support hyper threading, so a serious disadvantage there. I know very few laptops that use two threads/cores. My Macbook Pro 13 inch has 4 threads. [/quotemsg]

I am not using a laptop

I have been well served by Gigabyte so will probably be using Gigabyte GA-H81M-D2V, which DOES support Haswell, I might have got Gigabyte GA-H81M-HD3 but it is not really offering me anything extra.

I saw these benchmarks

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3220-vs-Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600

I know CPUBOSS figures are subjective hence posting here

People seem to suggest that the Pentium G3220 is a cut down iCore3

 

[WhiteSnake91]

get an SSD if you want a snappy system, but for saving power, the pentium haswell would do fine. If you can spend about $220 I'd get the Xeon 1230 v3. It's the same price as an i5 but is really an i7 4770 without built in graphics. If I had of known about the Xeons when I was building my pc I would of definitely gotten one most likely.

also, an h81 motherboard is fine, don't bother with z87 if you don't overclock.

 

[GhislainG]

The G3220 is not very powerful by current standards and an i3 would obviously be faster, but it also costs twice as much. A Xeon 1230 v3 is faster than an i3 or an i5, but it costs more and it draws more power. You asked about an inexpensive dual core socket 1150 processor and if it meets your requirements, then don't consider an i3 or anything faster and more power hungry. Personnally I'd get an i3 because it provides a significant performance boost over the G3220.

 

[zappo]

Unless your Q6600 is overclocked, the G3220 will be a bit faster.

I would buy an SSD and keep the hard disk as it doesn't draw enough power to justify replacing it. An SSD will make your system far more responsive than an hybryd drive. Since you can't stand a sluggish system, get an SSD. I've switched to an SSD and it makes a huge difference.

WEI is not very useful to determine if a system performs well or not.

Thanks for your reply

Yes I know WEI is not good, it comes up with the same number whether I have the thing overclocked or not, that is why I wanted the real world experience.

I checked the power consumption of my 750gb drives and they are using 9w when idle so that is 18w for the two drives I have now, a new Seagate 2tb SSHD uses 4.5w idel and just 6.2w when operational, so worst case scenario a third of current power.

SSD drives simply do not have the capacity at a price I can afford, I need at least 2tb, It may not be as fast as an SSD but should be faster than the Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 750gb's I have at the moment.

 

[zappo]

"Hello man" did not read your question at all. It angers me to see such ignorance on forums. As for your question, I would stay away from Z87 motherboards because you don't really seem to be a gamer. If you get the H81 motherboards, keep in mind that you will not be able to overclock. (However there is some news going around about ECS enabling overclocking on H81s but don't know too much about that. ) Also the G3220 performs better in single and multi threaded tasks (surprisingly), according to cpu-world. And ofc the power consumption is quite a bit lower. So if you're not going to be gaming or doing heavy or intense tasks, just get the Pentium, as it is a great processor, and if you're using the lga 1150 socket, you have a lot of awesome upgrade options.
Best of luck.
Edit: Also, WEI SUCKS, and is not very helpful.

Hope I helped!

-Lunatasian

Thanks, that was helpful

Yep there is consensus on WEI sucking!

I overclocked the Q6600 because the Gigabyte made it so easy, if it ever got upset it just turned it off and rebooted back into normal mode.

It seems to me that Intel has limited the ability to significantly overclock to just a handful of CPU's in iCore range and it makes you pay for the privilige.

My goal here is to maintain same speed and cut power consumption, I used to have an iCore Duo on the same motherboard and was able to upgrade to Q6600 to get more grunt, I expect to do the same with the Intel Pentium Dual Core G3220 and upgrade it when I can afford it (both the power and the chip).

I have tried using "eco" features of Windows with my Q6600 and got the consumption down but it makes the PC unusable.

 

[zappo]

get an SSD if you want a snappy system, but for saving power, the pentium haswell would do fine. If you can spend about $220 I'd get the Xeon 1230 v3. It's the same price as an i5 but is really an i7 4770 without built in graphics. If I had of known about the Xeons when I was building my pc I would of definitely gotten one most likely.

also, an h81 motherboard is fine, don't bother with z87 if you don't overclock.

Thanks, that is a useful tip about the Xeon 1230 V3, probably something I will consider when upgrading the G3220

SSD's do not have the capacity for my budget so SSHD is what I will go for, it is midrange but compared to what I have now probably faster and uses way less power

 

[zappo]

The G3220 is not very powerful by current standards and an i3 would obviously be faster, but it also costs twice as much. A Xeon 1230 v3 is faster than an i3 or an i5, but it costs more and it draws more power. You asked about an inexpensive dual core socket 1150 processor and if it meets your requirements, then don't consider an i3 or anything faster and more power hungry. Personnally I'd get an i3 because it provides a significant performance boost over the G3220.

I did consider the I3 although had no idea a Xeon 1230 v3 was the even compatible, Intel shoot themselves in the foot with this crossing architecture and brand names. For me Xeon used to be a Server chip.

I looked at the I3 power consumption vs the G3220 plus the price and it seemed ideal for my goal of reducing power consumption whilst maintaining speed. My power bill was 3x the price in one quarter and I have pinned it down to my PC. I should be able to get ROI in 3 months if my numbers are right.

 

[GhislainG]

The cost of electricity where you live has to be very high because I'm still using a Q6600 and an i7-3770 with several hard disks in each system. Both are connected to a UPS that's 65% efficient and they run 24x7. If I include my other PCs, my power consumption must be at least 5 times higher than yours.

 

[WhiteSnake91]

it depends on the area and company. A few years back my dad thought he would outsmart us and get a prepaid electric company, and they didn't require any deposit at all, but his bill was always sky high in comparison to ours because his kw/h was so much more than ours. It all depends on your location, and also the electricity company. I haven't checked my kw/h in forever and I'm always on the computer and the bill isn't bad

 

[zappo]

The cost of electricity where you live has to be very high because I'm still using a Q6600 and an i7-3770 with several hard disks in each system. Both are connected to a UPS that's 65% efficient and they run 24x7. If I include my other PCs, my power consumption must be at least 5 times higher than yours.

Yep Energy costs here are way too high, I had to turn off heat and hot water tank, that saved me 75% but it used cheaper tariff. Computer uses more expensive tariff, so have to cut it back.

If your energy costs are not high now they soon will be, whole world is on ransom, price of Oil was $23 a barrel when Bush got in, went up to $170 in his tenure and is kept high ($120+) so that they can get at least $80 for deep escavation like Deepwater Horizon oil spill.

Price of electricity is all relative to income, mine is low right now, I spend more on Electicity than I do on Gas and I have an MPV. I do not drive a lot as I work from home but I do not see why I should give money to energy company. I will get payback on a new rig probably in 3 months, 6 at the outside.

I have a UPS just a basic APC Surge protector home one,

https://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BE750G

I have not looked at that, only had to switch to it once in last 2 years.

It is all subjective, I know that I was able to make a big difference by putting in eco features in Windows and not overclocking but the performance hit was too much, I am hoping I will not have to use so much eco mode, the hard disk will use a quarter of current power and the CPU usage should be about a third of the usage of when Q6600 is not overclocked

TDP 35W vs 105W
Annual home energy cost 8.43 $/year vs 25.29 $/year
Annual commercial energy cost 30.66 $/year vs 91.98 $/year
Typical power consumption 28.44W 85.3vs1W

I tend to work 15 hours a day and sometime have the system on overnight if I need to encode a video or similar.

Based on my meter readings, turning things off etc my energy on this tariff should go from 2182kwh to 404kwh per quarter

 

[GhislainG]

I used this site to calculate the monthly cost http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/howmuch.htmlhttp://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/howmuch.html and I can't figure out how you came up with a 6 months ROI. The Q6600 doesn't always draw 105W; the average is significantly lower.

My Smart-UPS 1500 can deliver 980W of power and the average load is 16.2% (159W) for my i7-3770 and Q6600 systems that each run several VMs 24x7. I know the Q6600 draws more than the i7-3770, but upgrading to a G3220 would decrease total power consumption by less than 50W and my ROI would be several years. I'd have to buy a few hard disks, a quality motherboard and 16GB of DDR3 memory (I already use an efficient PSU).