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TomasWolf

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I just made an account here to post this question in hopes of somebody stumbling upon it and helping me understand the present issue with my computer. As I said in the title, my problem deals with a matter of performance -- specifically in games. Essentially, the problem is that my computer is running games, that it should be able to, at the very least run in mid/high levels, quite poorly even at the lowest possible setting.

I first realized this when playing Serious Sam HD, as the game had optimized itself to make it run as nicely as possible with the supposed specifications of my computer, as identified by the in-game scan -- and yet as I began playing it, I found myself in need of lowering the graphics continually until eventually I was placed in a situation where the graphics had been set to the lowest settings available without turning down the resolution (which I still have to do for a number of other games). It was odd at the time, but I tend not to typically play that game anyway, so I just ignored it.

The next notable scenario, for if I were to mention every game I tested, it would take nearly forever, was with the PC port of Alan Wake. Again, it had an optimization scan, setting all my graphical levels at high only to force me to manually set it to the lowest settings, as well as lowest resolution, only to find that it still would lag in certain specific areas. I checked the Steam store page, finding that yet again my build surpassed the recommended settings.

It was when the following happened that I decided to finally take action and find out what the problem is. I load up The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and instantly crank all the settings up to the max, because my old computer that had been rocking an ATI X1800 had been able to do so, finding yet again that I needed to turn the graphics down, down, and down again to get the optimal 60fps I desired. It was official -- my old computer with presumably worse parts had surpassed the abilities of my newer gaming computer.

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Because I know you're going to need it to help me out with this problem, here are my specifications:
-Processor = AMD FX-4100 Quad Core (3.6 GHz)
-RAM = 8GB DDR3
-Graphics Card = AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB
-Hard Drive = 500GB SATA
-Power Supply = 500W
-Motherboard = NVIDIA GeForce 7025
-OS = Windows 7 Home Premium (64bit) - Service Pack 1

Also, here's the computer itself: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229285
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Actually yes it does :)

So download and install these drivers in this EXACT order... Keep in mind I really sudjest you do a clean install of windows.

Chipset: http://download.gigabyte.ru/driver/motherboard_driver_chipset_nvidia_mcp68_win7-64.exe
Video: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc.exe
Audio: http://download.gigabyte.ru/driver/mb_driver_audio_realtek_azalia.exe
SATA: http://download.gigabyte.ru/driver/motherboard_driver_raid_nvidia_mcp68_bootdisk_win7-64bit.exe

Also restart your PC between each one.

After installing all of these then connect your PC to the internet, download ALL windows updates (You will probably need to download, install, restart PC several times before its got all of them).

Then install...

JefferyD90

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Download all of your drivers to a USB device. (This will take you going to each manufactures website, and download the CORRECT driver)
Do a clean install of Windows.
Install ALL of the Drivers, starting with the Chipset Driver. (DO NOT connect your PC to the internet untill AFTER)
Go to your device manager (Just click start and type device manager) and ensure that there are NO devices without a driver. (Simply see if any of the icons have a little yellow sign)
Once ALL drivers are installed connect to the internet and do a windows update. Then restart your PC. DO THIS UNTILL THERE ARE NO UPDATES FOR YOU.
At which point you can then start installing a anti virus program.(Dont have one, Microsoft Security Essentials does not affect system performance hardly at all, and is free)
Then install your "test" game.
Run the game, ENSURE that it is updated.

After this if it is not performing as desired, PLEASE repost.

You will need a chipset driver, video driver, audio, nework adapter (you might need 2 of these if you have a wireless adapter), SATA Controler/AHCI, and anything else that your setup requires.
 
First of all your setup is not the best for high performance gaming. That cpu is equal to the old intel dual core chips. See attached:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

In overclock may be in order for your cpu. I have an amd phenom overclocked to 4.2 ghz through my mobo softward. you could tweak a little and see if your performance improves. I would do it with caution and follow a guide from tom's hardware before attempting
 

TomasWolf

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This all seems so intricate and, well, difficult. My technological skills are below average at best. While this is an amazing answer... I must ask, is there any easier method?
 

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I think its driver related... That CPU can play any game JUST FINE...
 

TomasWolf

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It's 3.6GHz, so I still think that it should be able to run games, but if you think that it's the solution...
I'm always wary of overclocking due to overheats and such, but if you think this computer can handle it, then... Perhaps...
 
Well that's just wrong avenseth, my laptop with a 2GHz turion could run oblivion, poorly and at minimum settings but it was playable, an FX-4100 is orders of magnitude better and should handle it just fine. I hate that people seem to think that just because it isn't one of the best CPUs out there that it is horrible, it's still going to do just fine, not spectacular but it will do well.


What driver version are you running? Sometimes trying another version from a few months prior can help.

What resolution are you running and what resolution were you running on your old computer that could handle oblivion with the X1800 well?
 

TomasWolf

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Driver version for my CPU? 6.1.7600

As for my old computer... I was using 1280x1048, which was my native resolution at the time. I've tried running the game in 1024x768, though, and unless I have it in low settings it lags -- minimum settings if I use mods (which I do).
 

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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HUNTER

I never said it was the best CPU out there... but is MORE than capable of running ANY game out on the market today at stock settings.

The absolute BIGGEST problem with people and performance is typically their drivers. And your Video Driver isnt the only one you need to update... If there is another driver that is not installed right it will not allocate memory to the device accordingly thus causing your whole system to deminish... So my answer from before ENSURES the absolute best performance for your machine...

Did you make the machine yourself? Or is it a prebuild? If it was build by you, please tell me the make and model of your MOBO and everything... If it is a prebuild please tell me the model of PC. I will find all the drivers for you if you do.
 

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I will refer you to the link that I had in my first post: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229285
It is the CyberPowerPC Gamer Ultra 2098.
 

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I must thank you -- all of you -- for the help you've given me thus far. I understand how hard it must be to work with a man so inexperienced asking for help in what could potentially be a difficult task even for those with more knowledge in the area of technology.
 

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Still dont know the manufacture of your motherboard or anything... All I know that will help me is your chipset, CPU Hotfix, and Video Driver... I need to know the make and model of your motherboard at least...
 

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Actually yes it does :)

So download and install these drivers in this EXACT order... Keep in mind I really sudjest you do a clean install of windows.

Chipset: http://download.gigabyte.ru/driver/motherboard_driver_chipset_nvidia_mcp68_win7-64.exe
Video: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc.exe
Audio: http://download.gigabyte.ru/driver/mb_driver_audio_realtek_azalia.exe
SATA: http://download.gigabyte.ru/driver/motherboard_driver_raid_nvidia_mcp68_bootdisk_win7-64bit.exe

Also restart your PC between each one.

After installing all of these then connect your PC to the internet, download ALL windows updates (You will probably need to download, install, restart PC several times before its got all of them).

Then install your antimalware program (If you dont have one Microsoft Securty Essentials is very nice and free).

Now check it out, see how it performs.
 
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TomasWolf

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Hmm... I know you suggest it, but what if I chose not to do a clean install of Windows? I ask because my computer is filled up with all sorts of stuff that I downloaded -- so much in fact that reinstalling everything could potentially take a week or two.
 

JefferyD90

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It should never take a week or two to install all of your programs... Next if you dont do a clean install I cant guarentee that the drivers will stick. For whatever reason when you install drivers overtop of a prior driver that Windows deams "Digitaly Signed" Windows decides to revert back all the time.