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On 11 Mar 2005 07:39:01 -0800, sj543210@yahoo.com wrote:

>You heard me right. Those people will not stop at just banning game
>sales to minors, they will eventually want to seek bans on game
>contents.
>Here is the link:
>http://www.mediafamily.org/mediawise/Take_2_petition.shtml

LOL, I loved this bit:
"We respect the First Amendment and do not advocate censorship.
However, we have the right to tell the industry that we will not
accept the glorification of violence towards police officers."

Is DiF***wit's mum behind this one?
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Thusly sj543210@yahoo.com Spake Unto All:

>You heard me right. Those people will not stop at just banning game
>sales to minors, they will eventually want to seek bans on game
>contents.
>Here is the link:
>http://www.mediafamily.org/mediawise/Take_2_petition.shtml

Well thank God someone is standing up for our impressionable little
minds! It's about time someone did!

I'm certainly going to sign that petition, as surely as my name is
Mary-Juanna Reefer, and I suggest every other right-thinking
individual here does too!
 

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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Thusly sj543210@yahoo.com Spake Unto All:
>
>
>>You heard me right. Those people will not stop at just banning game
>>sales to minors, they will eventually want to seek bans on game
>>contents.
>>Here is the link:
>>http://www.mediafamily.org/mediawise/Take_2_petition.shtml
>
>
> Well thank God someone is standing up for our impressionable little
> minds! It's about time someone did!
>
> I'm certainly going to sign that petition, as surely as my name is
> Mary-Juanna Reefer, and I suggest every other right-thinking
> individual here does too!
>

I'm with ya Mary. Plus I think they should extend it to shooting
civilians in games. Then we should look at whether it's right to shoot
soldiers in games - I guess a lot of folk shot german soldiers during
their gaming moments last night but we're not at war with Germany - I
mean is it right to shoot soldiers of an army you are not actually at
war with?

--
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'done it'...
What do you mean?
Well, I mean like,... you've SLEPT, with a lady...
Yes...
What's it like?
 
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Thusly Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:

>> I'm certainly going to sign that petition, as surely as my name is
>> Mary-Juanna Reefer, and I suggest every other right-thinking
>> individual here does too!
>
>I'm with ya Mary. Plus I think they should extend it to shooting
>civilians in games. Then we should look at whether it's right to shoot
>soldiers in games - I guess a lot of folk shot german soldiers during
>their gaming moments last night but we're not at war with Germany - I
>mean is it right to shoot soldiers of an army you are not actually at
>war with?

And what about animals? I once saw this game for sale, where you were
supposed to sneak up on and brutally shoot a poor defenceless deer!!!
On purpose!!! And you could wound it, so it'd run off, and you could
track it by following the blood dripping off it!!! And shoot it
again!!!
Everytime I think of the suffering of those poor electrons on the
screen, I just want to cry.

I think I'm going to have to ask my neighbors Claire Voyant and Hugh G
Reckshon sign this petition too!
 

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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Thusly Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:
>
>
>>>I'm certainly going to sign that petition, as surely as my name is
>>>Mary-Juanna Reefer, and I suggest every other right-thinking
>>>individual here does too!
>>
>>I'm with ya Mary. Plus I think they should extend it to shooting
>>civilians in games. Then we should look at whether it's right to shoot
>>soldiers in games - I guess a lot of folk shot german soldiers during
>>their gaming moments last night but we're not at war with Germany - I
>>mean is it right to shoot soldiers of an army you are not actually at
>>war with?
>
>
> And what about animals? I once saw this game for sale, where you were
> supposed to sneak up on and brutally shoot a poor defenceless deer!!!
> On purpose!!! And you could wound it, so it'd run off, and you could
> track it by following the blood dripping off it!!! And shoot it
> again!!!
> Everytime I think of the suffering of those poor electrons on the
> screen, I just want to cry.
>
> I think I'm going to have to ask my neighbors Claire Voyant and Hugh G
> Reckshon sign this petition too!
>
>

Totally with you. You know I do see an opportunity here to extend it
further. It's not just the killings. Games such as Age of Empires
blatantly put gamers in a position of power where they abuse their
workers rights, working them for hours on end with no break and just
killing them off when their usefullness has expired. These gamers then
go onto become the captains of industry (those that dont follow the
killer career path of course). How can this be defended? No wonder
there is so much stress and bullying in the workplace. Damn. Perhaps
we can get difsayno to write a 'document'.

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'done it'...
What do you mean?
Well, I mean like,... you've SLEPT, with a lady...
Yes...
What's it like?
 
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"Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
news:1110561006.8051.0@despina.uk.clara.net...
> Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> > Thusly Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:
> >
> >
> >>>I'm certainly going to sign that petition, as surely as my name is
> >>>Mary-Juanna Reefer, and I suggest every other right-thinking
> >>>individual here does too!
> >>
> >>I'm with ya Mary. Plus I think they should extend it to shooting
> >>civilians in games. Then we should look at whether it's right to shoot
> >>soldiers in games - I guess a lot of folk shot german soldiers during
> >>their gaming moments last night but we're not at war with Germany - I
> >>mean is it right to shoot soldiers of an army you are not actually at
> >>war with?
> >
> >
> > And what about animals? I once saw this game for sale, where you were
> > supposed to sneak up on and brutally shoot a poor defenceless deer!!!
> > On purpose!!! And you could wound it, so it'd run off, and you could
> > track it by following the blood dripping off it!!! And shoot it
> > again!!!
> > Everytime I think of the suffering of those poor electrons on the
> > screen, I just want to cry.
> >
> > I think I'm going to have to ask my neighbors Claire Voyant and Hugh G
> > Reckshon sign this petition too!
> >
> >
>
> Totally with you. You know I do see an opportunity here to extend it
> further. It's not just the killings. Games such as Age of Empires
> blatantly put gamers in a position of power where they abuse their
> workers rights, working them for hours on end with no break and just
> killing them off when their usefullness has expired. These gamers then
> go onto become the captains of industry (those that dont follow the
> killer career path of course). How can this be defended? No wonder
> there is so much stress and bullying in the workplace. Damn. Perhaps
> we can get difsayno to write a 'document'.

You all left out the games like Tetris and Bejeweled. Where the player
get's 3 boxes in a row and BOOM! They blow up.
 

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"OldDog" <OldDog@city.pound> wrote in message
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>
> "Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
> news:1110561006.8051.0@despina.uk.clara.net...
> > Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> > > Thusly Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:
> > >
> > >
> > >>>I'm certainly going to sign that petition, as surely as my name is
> > >>>Mary-Juanna Reefer, and I suggest every other right-thinking
> > >>>individual here does too!
> > >>
> > >>I'm with ya Mary. Plus I think they should extend it to shooting
> > >>civilians in games. Then we should look at whether it's right to
shoot
> > >>soldiers in games - I guess a lot of folk shot german soldiers during
> > >>their gaming moments last night but we're not at war with Germany - I
> > >>mean is it right to shoot soldiers of an army you are not actually at
> > >>war with?
> > >
> > >
> > > And what about animals? I once saw this game for sale, where you were
> > > supposed to sneak up on and brutally shoot a poor defenceless deer!!!
> > > On purpose!!! And you could wound it, so it'd run off, and you could
> > > track it by following the blood dripping off it!!! And shoot it
> > > again!!!
> > > Everytime I think of the suffering of those poor electrons on the
> > > screen, I just want to cry.
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to have to ask my neighbors Claire Voyant and Hugh G
> > > Reckshon sign this petition too!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Totally with you. You know I do see an opportunity here to extend it
> > further. It's not just the killings. Games such as Age of Empires
> > blatantly put gamers in a position of power where they abuse their
> > workers rights, working them for hours on end with no break and just
> > killing them off when their usefullness has expired. These gamers then
> > go onto become the captains of industry (those that dont follow the
> > killer career path of course). How can this be defended? No wonder
> > there is so much stress and bullying in the workplace. Damn. Perhaps
> > we can get difsayno to write a 'document'.
>
> You all left out the games like Tetris and Bejeweled. Where the player
> get's 3 boxes in a row and BOOM! They blow up.
>

Poor, poor boxes. <sigh>
I tried that in my living room the other night with some u-haul boxes. It
didn't work to well. Then I realized that I'd forgotten the M80's...
 

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OldDog wrote:
> "Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
> news:1110561006.8051.0@despina.uk.clara.net...
>
>>Mean_Chlorine wrote:
>>
>>>Thusly Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I'm certainly going to sign that petition, as surely as my name is
>>>>>Mary-Juanna Reefer, and I suggest every other right-thinking
>>>>>individual here does too!
>>>>
>>>>I'm with ya Mary. Plus I think they should extend it to shooting
>>>>civilians in games. Then we should look at whether it's right to shoot
>>>>soldiers in games - I guess a lot of folk shot german soldiers during
>>>>their gaming moments last night but we're not at war with Germany - I
>>>>mean is it right to shoot soldiers of an army you are not actually at
>>>>war with?
>>>
>>>
>>>And what about animals? I once saw this game for sale, where you were
>>>supposed to sneak up on and brutally shoot a poor defenceless deer!!!
>>>On purpose!!! And you could wound it, so it'd run off, and you could
>>>track it by following the blood dripping off it!!! And shoot it
>>>again!!!
>>>Everytime I think of the suffering of those poor electrons on the
>>>screen, I just want to cry.
>>>
>>>I think I'm going to have to ask my neighbors Claire Voyant and Hugh G
>>>Reckshon sign this petition too!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Totally with you. You know I do see an opportunity here to extend it
>>further. It's not just the killings. Games such as Age of Empires
>>blatantly put gamers in a position of power where they abuse their
>>workers rights, working them for hours on end with no break and just
>>killing them off when their usefullness has expired. These gamers then
>>go onto become the captains of industry (those that dont follow the
>>killer career path of course). How can this be defended? No wonder
>>there is so much stress and bullying in the workplace. Damn. Perhaps
>>we can get difsayno to write a 'document'.
>
>
> You all left out the games like Tetris and Bejeweled. Where the player
> get's 3 boxes in a row and BOOM! They blow up.
>
>

Nah, you're reaching now - those boxes aren't live entities... oh...
wait a minute....

--
I mean, you've been around a bit, you know, like, you've, uh... You've
'done it'...
What do you mean?
Well, I mean like,... you've SLEPT, with a lady...
Yes...
What's it like?
 
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+0000, Anno Domini:




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>Mean_Chlorine wrote:
>> Thusly Shawk <s...@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:

>>>>I'm certainly going to sign that petition, as surely as my name is
>>>>Mary-Juanna Reefer, and I suggest every other right-thinking
>>>>individual here does too!


>>>I'm with ya Mary. Plus I think they should extend it to shooting
>>>civilians in games. Then we should look at whether it's right to
shoot
>>>soldiers in games - I guess a lot of folk shot german soldiers
during
>>>their gaming moments last night but we're not at war with Germany -
I
>>>mean is it right to shoot soldiers of an army you are not actually
at
>>>war with?


>> And what about animals? I once saw this game for sale, where you
were
>> supposed to sneak up on and brutally shoot a poor defenceless
deer!!!
>> On purpose!!! And you could wound it, so it'd run off, and you could

>> track it by following the blood dripping off it!!! And shoot it
>> again!!!
>> Everytime I think of the suffering of those poor electrons on the
>> screen, I just want to cry.


>> I think I'm going to have to ask my neighbors Claire Voyant and Hugh
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>> Reckshon sign this petition too!


>Totally with you. You know I do see an opportunity here to extend it
>further. It's not just the killings. Games such as Age of Empires
>blatantly put gamers in a position of power where they abuse their
>workers rights, working them for hours on end with no break and just
>killing them off when their usefullness has expired. These gamers
then
>go onto become the captains of industry (those that dont follow the
>killer career path of course). How can this be defended? No wonder
>there is so much stress and bullying in the workplace. Damn. Perhaps

>we can get difsayno to write a 'document'.



As funny as this immature little Beavis & Butthead exchange has been
(HE,
HE, HA, HA, HI, HI), you guys don't seem to be able to discriminate
much
between degrees of right wrong or hold a meaningful conversation
regarding
this topic. You certainly don't seem to have raised any small children
of
your own (if you have, God help us!, they are no doubt gun-totin little

rednecks in the making, though & through :). And you certainly haven't
got a
clue how the 1st Amendment actually applies, which is even sadder,
because
most of you are yanks lol.

Oh yeah, & GTA is the worst POS dribble that has come out of a game box
in
many years >;-p

Hey is this guy ripping on us yanks? wtf is up with that. Must be a
foriegner. I agree that people and conservatists groups are always
looking for a shot to make it at the headlines. I for one, Dont play
GTA SA . But I was a big fan of VC, and VC Online. If kids portray what
they learn in a game, then its not the video game makers fault, its the
parents neglect on raising them. If anyone should be punished, it
should be the parents. And this petition will never go. Last I read
that 80% of americans are gamers in a certain kind of way. More as the
years go on. So ditch the negitivity, and Look at the positive side,
atleast the 20 percent that arent gamers, arent working for video game
companies making us games that make you hug trees, and feed rabbits.
 

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Thus spake Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses>, Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:15:20
+0000, Anno Domini:

>Mean_Chlorine wrote:
>> Thusly Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:
>>
>>
>>>>I'm certainly going to sign that petition, as surely as my name is
>>>>Mary-Juanna Reefer, and I suggest every other right-thinking
>>>>individual here does too!
>>>
>>>I'm with ya Mary. Plus I think they should extend it to shooting
>>>civilians in games. Then we should look at whether it's right to shoot
>>>soldiers in games - I guess a lot of folk shot german soldiers during
>>>their gaming moments last night but we're not at war with Germany - I
>>>mean is it right to shoot soldiers of an army you are not actually at
>>>war with?
>>
>>
>> And what about animals? I once saw this game for sale, where you were
>> supposed to sneak up on and brutally shoot a poor defenceless deer!!!
>> On purpose!!! And you could wound it, so it'd run off, and you could
>> track it by following the blood dripping off it!!! And shoot it
>> again!!!
>> Everytime I think of the suffering of those poor electrons on the
>> screen, I just want to cry.
>>
>> I think I'm going to have to ask my neighbors Claire Voyant and Hugh G
>> Reckshon sign this petition too!
>>
>>
>
>Totally with you. You know I do see an opportunity here to extend it
>further. It's not just the killings. Games such as Age of Empires
>blatantly put gamers in a position of power where they abuse their
>workers rights, working them for hours on end with no break and just
>killing them off when their usefullness has expired. These gamers then
>go onto become the captains of industry (those that dont follow the
>killer career path of course). How can this be defended? No wonder
>there is so much stress and bullying in the workplace. Damn. Perhaps
>we can get difsayno to write a 'document'.

As funny as this immature little Beavis & Butthead exchange has been (HE,
HE, HA, HA, HI, HI), you guys don't seem to be able to discriminate much
between degrees of right wrong or hold a meaningful conversation regarding
this topic. You certainly don't seem to have raised any small children of
your own (if you have, God help us!, they are no doubt gun-totin little
rednecks in the making, though & through :). And you certainly haven't got a
clue how the 1st Amendment actually applies, which is even sadder, because
most of you are yanks lol.

Oh yeah, & GTA is the worst POS dribble that has come out of a game box in
many years >;-p

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Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:

>As funny as this immature little Beavis & Butthead exchange has been

<smiles in anticipation: Ah... >

>, you guys don't seem to be able to discriminate much
>between degrees of right wrong or hold a meaningful conversation regarding
>this topic.

Good point, nossy. Why don't you explain to these moral deviants why
the one entirely fictional two-dimensional depiction is more wrong
than another entirely fictional two-dimensional depiction, and how
this translates into reality?

>(if you have, God help us!, they are no doubt gun-totin little
>rednecks in the making, though & through :). And you certainly haven't got a
>clue how the 1st Amendment actually applies, which is even sadder, because
>most of you are yanks lol.

And where was the First Amendment when Howard Stern was fined for
baring his breasts on the air?

Well, at least we now know the answer to the age-old question "Did
anyone named after a spaceship ever pass a drug test?"...
 

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Nostromo wrote:
>
>
> As funny as this immature little Beavis & Butthead exchange has been (HE,
> HE, HA, HA, HI, HI),

YOU found it funny. I'm honoured :)

you guys don't seem to be able to discriminate much
> between degrees of right wrong or hold a meaningful conversation regarding
> this topic.

You got all that from a joke exchange. Your powers of perception are
without doubt the most impressive I've seen since disayno

You certainly don't seem to have raised any small children of
> your own (if you have, God help us!, they are no doubt gun-totin little
> rednecks in the making, though & through :). A

Raised two. Well balanced teenagers who know the difference between
debate and parody and could not comprehend why they might want to own a gun

nd you certainly haven't got a
> clue how the 1st Amendment actually applies,

Not the first idea - true

which is even sadder, because
> most of you are yanks lol.

Ahh, powers of perception failing I see :)

>
> Oh yeah, & GTA is the worst POS dribble that has come out of a game box in
> many years >;-p
>

Wouldn't know. Played GTA VC for a while but got bored. That was a
long time ago.

Look Nostromo - it's a serious issue that needs a serious debate. Doing
it here with a bunch of rednecks, liberals and 14yr olds is not the
forum for it.


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I mean, you've been around a bit, you know, like, you've, uh... You've
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What do you mean?
Well, I mean like,... you've SLEPT, with a lady...
Yes...
What's it like?
 
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And I can tell you that I can discern reality from video games, tv, movies,
music, or otherwise. Today on my way to work, I had a terrible traffic
accident happen right before my eyes. Sure in any PC game that would be
"cool" to see. But after jumping out of my car and dragging this person out
of his cargo van on its side, it is has a million times more impact that
seeing it on screen, realistic or otherwise. Thank God that everyone was ok.
And the sight of someone else bleeding in reality really made an impact on
me. I didn't make the connection here earlier, but the more I thought about
it, the more I realized how much something like blaming video game violence
pisses me off.

Games allow us to fantasize non-violently against other beings. For those
that cannot discern the difference, they will more than likely find a way to
enact their fantasies on reality anyways. But that's my opinion and I'm no
psychiatrist.

Well, 'nuf said from me...
 
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Thusly Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:

>Look Nostromo - it's a serious issue that needs a serious debate. Doing
>it here with a bunch of rednecks, liberals and 14yr olds is not the
>forum for it.

Hey, I resent that - I'm not 14 years old!

Besides, it doesn't need serious debate. It needs serious ridicule.
 

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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Thusly Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:
>
>
>>Look Nostromo - it's a serious issue that needs a serious debate. Doing
>>it here with a bunch of rednecks, liberals and 14yr olds is not the
>>forum for it.
>
>
> Hey, I resent that - I'm not 14 years old!
>
> Besides, it doesn't need serious debate. It needs serious ridicule.
>
>

Lol. That's OK - you dont *have* to be all three :)

Issue of censorship that affects our games does require serious debate -
but this NG aint the place for it. Too many mass-debaters. Serious
ridicule *is* what is required 'here'.


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'done it'...
What do you mean?
Well, I mean like,... you've SLEPT, with a lady...
Yes...
What's it like?
 

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Thus spake Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk>, Sat, 12 Mar
2005 00:14:37 +0100, Anno Domini:

>Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:
>
>>As funny as this immature little Beavis & Butthead exchange has been
>
><smiles in anticipation: Ah... >
>
>>, you guys don't seem to be able to discriminate much
>>between degrees of right wrong or hold a meaningful conversation regarding
>>this topic.
>
>Good point, nossy. Why don't you explain to these moral deviants why
>the one entirely fictional two-dimensional depiction is more wrong
>than another entirely fictional two-dimensional depiction, and how
>this translates into reality?

I rest my case yer honour! ;-p

>>(if you have, God help us!, they are no doubt gun-totin little
>>rednecks in the making, though & through :). And you certainly haven't got a
>>clue how the 1st Amendment actually applies, which is even sadder, because
>>most of you are yanks lol.
>
>And where was the First Amendment when Howard Stern was fined for
>baring his breasts on the air?

Well, those judges & lawyers have to eat too ya know!

>Well, at least we now know the answer to the age-old question "Did
>anyone named after a spaceship ever pass a drug test?"...

Never! Errr...I mean...I never had a drug test that I would've failed, so
there! :p

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Thus spake Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses>, Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:29:22
+0000, Anno Domini:

>Look Nostromo - it's a serious issue that needs a serious debate. Doing
>it here with a bunch of rednecks, liberals and 14yr olds is not the
>forum for it.

No kiddin? ;-)

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sj543210@yahoo.com looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>You heard me right. Those people will not stop at just banning game
>sales to minors, they will eventually want to seek bans on game
>contents.

And of course you feel SO strongly about it, you're posting through
google and using a throwaway Yahoo email address.

Uh yeah, I'll greet your call to arms with the overwhelming apathy your
anonymity inspires.

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Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> looked up from reading the entrails
of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>Nostromo wrote:
<snip>
>> Oh yeah, & GTA is the worst POS dribble that has come out of a game box in
>> many years >;-p
>>
>
>Wouldn't know. Played GTA VC for a while but got bored. That was a
>long time ago.
>
>Look Nostromo - it's a serious issue that needs a serious debate. Doing
>it here with a bunch of rednecks, liberals and 14yr olds is not the
>forum for it.

It's not a serious issue, it's a cheap cop out.

GTA didn't make anyone shoot anyone, or steal cars or do anything else.

The only problem here is the American legal system ACCEPTING these
modern equivalents of "The Devil made me do it" argument.

Censorship calls should ALWAYS be treated with the respect they deserve;
unbridled ridicule.

ANY attempt to blame someone/something else for YOUR choices/actions
should also be met with the utmost derision.

Xocyll
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seanwillett@gmail.com once tried to test me with:

> Hey is this guy ripping on us yanks? wtf is up with that. Must be a
> foriegner.

Actually it's pronounced furner. He's a damn furner.

And I hear he's from Austria.

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Xocyll wrote:
> Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> looked up from reading the entrails
> of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>
>>Nostromo wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>Oh yeah, & GTA is the worst POS dribble that has come out of a game box in
>>>many years >;-p
>>>
>>
>>Wouldn't know. Played GTA VC for a while but got bored. That was a
>>long time ago.
>>
>>Look Nostromo - it's a serious issue that needs a serious debate. Doing
>>it here with a bunch of rednecks, liberals and 14yr olds is not the
>>forum for it.
>
>
> It's not a serious issue, it's a cheap cop out.
>
> GTA didn't make anyone shoot anyone, or steal cars or do anything else.
>
> The only problem here is the American legal system ACCEPTING these
> modern equivalents of "The Devil made me do it" argument.
>
> Censorship calls should ALWAYS be treated with the respect they deserve;
> unbridled ridicule.
>
> ANY attempt to blame someone/something else for YOUR choices/actions
> should also be met with the utmost derision.
>
> Xocyll

Dont misunderstand me Xocyll, I agree with your comments but if there is
no debate, if you do not take it seriously, then you may find a creeping
censorship coming into force purely because it is a popular and
UNCONTESTED cause. Politicians do not do what is right - they do what
is popular. How the hell do you think political correctness came about?
Unless challenged these things creep in.


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What do you mean?
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Yes...
What's it like?
 

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Thus spake Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net>, Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:38:10 -0500,
Anno Domini:

>Shawk <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> looked up from reading the entrails
>of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>>Nostromo wrote:
><snip>
>>> Oh yeah, & GTA is the worst POS dribble that has come out of a game box in
>>> many years >;-p
>>>
>>
>>Wouldn't know. Played GTA VC for a while but got bored. That was a
>>long time ago.
>>
>>Look Nostromo - it's a serious issue that needs a serious debate. Doing
>>it here with a bunch of rednecks, liberals and 14yr olds is not the
>>forum for it.
>
>It's not a serious issue, it's a cheap cop out.
>
>GTA didn't make anyone shoot anyone, or steal cars or do anything else.
>
>The only problem here is the American legal system ACCEPTING these
>modern equivalents of "The Devil made me do it" argument.
>
>Censorship calls should ALWAYS be treated with the respect they deserve;
>unbridled ridicule.
>
>ANY attempt to blame someone/something else for YOUR choices/actions
>should also be met with the utmost derision.
>
>Xocyll

Don't hold back Xocyll, speak yer mind mate! ;-p

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Xocyll wrote:
> And of course you feel SO strongly about it, you're posting through
> google and using a throwaway Yahoo email address.
>
> Uh yeah, I'll greet your call to arms with the overwhelming apathy
your
> anonymity inspires.

I've been looking for a way to tell whose posts to trust on this NG.
And you've found it for me.

So, anyone using Google and a Yahoo email address is obviously a bit
flakey. And presumably anyone with a real-looking email address and
using a newsreader is legit?
 
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Andrew wrote:
> On 14 Mar 2005 07:37:46 -0800, "Chadwick" <chadwick110@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >So, anyone using Google and a Yahoo email address is obviously a bit
> >flakey. And presumably anyone with a real-looking email address and
> >using a newsreader is legit?
>
> I guess that rules me out then. Personally I judge people by their
> message content and KF based on that, but if they nym shift or have
an
> offensive name that also gets them ignored.


Ah, but I shouldn't put any faith in what I say.
Google Groups and Hotmail = Axis of Evil.