Question Phanteks evolv tempered atx cooling

[gregc]

Hello....
My build in this case is as follows.....X570 Taichi MB......Ryzen 3700X CPU......EVGA 2080 FTW3 GPU.......Gskill tridentz 3600 2x8gb DRAM....Crucial 1TB p1 m.2 SSD......Seagate 2 TB HDD.....EVGA 850 gold PSU
I am currently running the stock wraith prism cooler that came with chip. The build overall is running really well and does everything i had hoped for. My only concern is the chip in my opinion is running a little warm.
It idles around 37-40 C....when i run stress with cpuid is ramps up pretty quickly to 77C in just a couple minutes and seems to slowly climb if i continue to run stress test. And it has run up to low 80s a couple times.
Im like many out there i suspect and want to teak and improve. Im considering jumping into an CLC system to lower thermals on chip. Im starting to narrow it down to 2 AIOs at this point I would love to install a 360 system in top of case in a pull down config but doesnt seem very feasable without major mods to case due to design and imo poor airflow.
So i think im gonna go with a 280 setup in fron of case with a pull config and possibly going to a push pull config. I do have room for that set up.
Any recommendations to what brand 280 i would get the best results from? Im looking at corsair h115i and also the Evga CLC 280 for its simplicity
Any advice and input would be greatly appreciated!!
gregc

 

[Karadjgne]

Ryzen isn't Intel, so you can toss out any pre-conceived notions of idle temps. Intel lowers frequency and voltages across all the cores simultaneously at idle, but all cores remain active. With Ryzen, it shutsdown most if not all cores but one, so that single core is doing all the background tasks, running windows etc until the pc goes into uber low power states and shuts those down too. Consequently, you see a temp reflected of a core under loads, not multiple cores splitting up a load. This gives the one core higher idle temps. Perfectly normal Ryzen behavior.

Load temps are different. At idle, the cpu output is easily swallowed by even the most modest cooler, but loads is where output wattage challenges the capacity and efficiency of the cpu cooler. The stock Wraith is very good for what it is a stock cooler, so stepping up in capacity is a good idea. A 280mm is plenty, even a 240mm would be enough, the Ryzen cpus run very close to actual PBO settings at best. Or about 142w.

You won't need push/pull, just pull will be more than good enough, the extra fans won't do much but add wiring and cleaning needs, and noise.

A 280mm aio is a 280mm AIO, essentially they are all pretty similar, same rads, 2 or 3 different pump designs etc, so ability and performance is pretty moot. What it really boils down to is the extras. Software and fans. The Evga is plain, uses bios settings alone, which often has a more aggressive fan cycle, so performance-wise is a little better at low outputs but can get a little noisy at high outputs. Corsair uses iCue software, so has a greater ability to tailor temps vs fan speeds for better overall satisfaction. The Evga fans aren't quite as good as the 115i's but that too depends on the model, the Pro are better, the RGB not so much.

Overall, pretty equitable choices, but it'll be either bios controlled or software controlled. Both have excellent warranty, so that's pretty moot too. Neither one is a bad choice, at all.

 

[gregc]

Hey thanks for your input of this matter of AIOs. A really outstanding and enlightning answer i must say. Im still fairly new to PC building and really enjoy gaining more knowledge about this fascinating yet expensive hobby. I certainly do not want to make a move in the wrong direction.
I think im going to go with the Corsair H115i pro 280.
Once again thank you for the advice.
gregc

 

[Karadjgne]

Happy building. Welcome to a very big world 😁