thats perfect ill just have to double up on a cpl... i love both of them and no matter how much i research its probably gonna be a game time decision... more color options from the 410 make it easier to color match ur build, i was gonna to a black and red amd build but the 3570k is around the same as the fx8350 not much difference in the boards i wanted for both either... im now thinkin white(black trim)410, asrock extreme6 1155, black phanteks cooler, blue led fans, and blue avexir ram for astheatics