Phononic's HEX 1.0 Cooler Leverages Refrigeration Technology To Chill Your CPU

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With Newtons law of cooling, the greater the temperature delta between the hot (CPU) and cold (Heat plate) the greater the energy exchanged per unit time (Watts). However there is a theoretical limit based on the maximum thermal conductivity of the metals (How fast energy can transfer over a distance given a unit of time)

So yes they could be more efficient then closed loop coolers. Only problem it they have a tendency to produce condensate. And water on electronics isn't exactly a good thing.
 
With Newtons law of cooling, the greater the temperature delta between the hot (CPU) and cold (Heat plate) the greater the energy exchanged per unit time (Watts). However there is a theoretical limit based on the maximum thermal conductivity of the metals (How fast energy can transfer over a distance given a unit of time)

So yes they could be more efficient then closed loop coolers. Only problem it they have a tendency to produce condensate. And water on electronics isn't exactly a good thing.
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Only a problem if the cooler drops below ambient. Which I'm pretty sure there is a thermostat in the unit to prevent just that.
 
Yea they didn't say that was the reason, but I'd say that is the reason they have it turn off below a certain temperature. I'm honestly really interested to see how tests go on this cooler, because it could land just about anywhere in terms of cooling performance.
 
A couple companies tried this before and the results were less than phenomenal, they didn't go anywhere.

If this project does take off I'd love to see benchmarks proving it plausible, but as of right now I'm far from convinced.
 
What are you talking about...this is far from producing condensation. Heatsinks are limited by surface area and this is going to perform less than a closed loop or even to a similarly sized air cooler.

With Newtons law of cooling, the greater the temperature delta between the hot (CPU) and cold (Heat plate) the greater the energy exchanged per unit time (Watts). However there is a theoretical limit based on the maximum thermal conductivity of the metals (How fast energy can transfer over a distance given a unit of time)

So yes they could be more efficient then closed loop coolers. Only problem it they have a tendency to produce condensate. And water on electronics isn't exactly a good thing.
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What they should do is directly solder Thermoelectric Power Generator Peltier Module TEG in between heatsink fins layers or spaced between every few layers of them and have the one on the top that works as a peltier from power generated by the ones below it.
 
I've already got one of these. It's called a Coolermaster V10.
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yeah, this blatant advertisement states like it's one of the first... has any of you ever heard of peltier cooling? it's existed for a very long time. this would be better with a built in water cooler.
 
I remember peltier cooling from the Pentium days. My son tried it on one of his AMD chips but something happened and it got so hot it fried his CPU. It was around for a short time, then you didn't hear about it. It's been a long time since I've heard the term. Before I judge I'd like to see some benchmarks on this thing.
 
Very curious to see if this works as advertised. 60W of active cooling on top of what a traditional tower cooler can cool on its own could be pretty nice, especially for high end rigs with limited space requirements.

I noticed a few people calling this a Peltier cooler, and while similar tech, if my memory servers correctly the company died off because they were rather expensive, and extremely unreliable while only meeting the performance of similarly costing coolers.
If these guys can keep the price under $100 while performing similar to much larger units, while keeping reliability in check, then they just might have a winner on their hands.

I'd be very curious to see what they could do with this tech on a GPU platform... I'd love to see smaller high performance GPU coolers that can stick to 2 slots per card instead of 3.
 
I would be nervous about spewing out another 60 watts into the case, The Peltier coolers are notoriously inefficient. Pumping all that hot air from the cooler plus the heat from the cpu could amount to 150 watts. A water or air cooler only adds a few watts (~5-15) to move the heat away from the cpu. Unless this device could get temperatures below -100 C,it seems redundant. About the only thing this does is produce a very small cooler, but you wouldn't want to put this in a very small case, because all the heat that the cooler itself adds. This is a solution, looking for a problem.
 
This isn't refrigeration, as others have pointed out this is a modern peltier cooler. I remember first seeing compressor cooling systems back in the Pentium III / Athlon era. Now those were refrigeration units in a PC case!

I would be nervous about spewing out another 60 watts into the case, The Peltier coolers are notoriously inefficient. Pumping all that hot air from the cooler plus the heat from the cpu could amount to 150 watts. A water or air cooler only adds a few watts (~5-15) to move the heat away from the cpu. Unless this device could get temperatures below -100 C,it seems redundant. About the only thing this does is produce a very small cooler, but you wouldn't want to put this in a very small case, because all the heat that the cooler itself adds. This is a solution, looking for a problem.
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I don't disagree with what you're saying, but it depends on the case setup. If you're venting directly from the cooler to the outside of the case, for example. Assuming you can keep ambient temps comfortable, should be OK. I'm not convinced on the long-term reliability of a peltier cooler, however, and they are inefficient/wasteful.
 
We see these "innovations" that aren't, from time to time, and they NEVER seem to be able to perform very well or live up to the hype once anybody NOT related to the company does a bit of lab testing. I suspect this won't be much different, although I wouldn't mind being proven wrong. This kind of technology adapted to an otherwise already proven performance heatsink fan combo might be interesting if somehow the two technologies could be integrated.
 
My concern here is performance / price. A typical $30 cooler from Cryorig, Cooler Master, or Xigmatek already does a pretty good job on the cheap. However, this "below $100" line is pretty vague. Say this thing ends up at $90. At that price, you're going up against premium air coolers from Nocuta and Phanteks and a host of AIO liquid coolers from CM, Corsair, and others. That's a tall order for a new cooler.
 
Used to fantasize about peltier TEC cooling systems.. long story short, they utilize a lot of power in comparison to the gains, plus they create heat which needs to be directed out of the case somehow.. Who wants to add 60W of cooling power to their PC..everything now days is going towards efficiency and TEC's just aren't part of that equation.. are stock cooler fans or water kits really not good enough?..stock coolers work for millions of PC's out there today..only the extremist is going to go the extra length for water cooled systems and even fewer will go for peltier/refrigeration setups..

it'll be interesting to see results but I doubt anythings going to come of it that's impressive..good luck.
 
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