Photo Shows Possible iPad 3 CPU/GPU as 'A5X' System on Chip

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EDVINASM

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Why change it if it ain't broke :) In a way I do agree with Apple in terms of tweaking, after all the iPad price on launch day expected to stay the same as previous one. With minor improvements it's realistic to expect that. I am not Apple fan and don't currently own any of their goods however, I do admire them for implementing iOS across their products and the simplicity of use.
 

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*Assuming this is real for a second*

I wonder why there is such coverage of what is only another iteration of a product, and breaks no ground at all and at best listens to it's consumers on the issues reported.

I also sincerely doubt anything magical is going to happen hardware wise, when happen are hardly technological leaders for hardware.
 
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Another Crapple article on PC world... why don't to let the Mac World suck the Crapple articles and their crap products..
 

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A couple of thoughts:

First off, as soon as you call Apple "Crapple" you immediately lose all credibility.

Second off, I really don't see a need for Quad Core right now. If they would only be implementing it to say "look at us, we have quad core" then they definitely don't need it! Consumers don't give a damn about how many cores something has or GHz or any of that nonsense. Most of them don't even understand what that means. What they want is for the product to work great, run smoothly, and do what they want it to do. If Apple can up the graphics, keep a dual core processor, and it still runs completely smoothly, then what's the point of going quad core?

Thirdly (is that a word?...), to suggest that Apple going "retina display" with this new iPad isn't going to be "anything magical...hardware wise" is also silly. What other company has anything anything with a display that is 2048 x 1536, especially on a screen that isn't even 10 inches big! If they do pull that off, then THAT, my friends, will be "magical."

No matter what happens, it'll sure be fun to watch.

-(From an Apple AND Windows AND Droid AND Blackberry fan, and overall technology lover.)
 

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wonder how hard it would be for someone that knows how to remove the 32gb memory chips on that board and replace them with 2 64gb memory chips....... that is still half of the 256gb I would want on an ipad 3 if I were to buy one.
 

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I don't see a reason why should Apple work so hard, reading reviews here and other sites the iPad 1 is still better than anything new out there, they have left everyone in dust for such a long time competition can only get ahead by copying everything Apple does, no wonder Apple is constantly sues everyone for stealing thier technology.
 

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Proven fact: 4 cores at 1.2ghz, is 200% faster, then 2 cores at 1.2ghz......If 2 cores at 1.2ghz can do it smoothly and blah blah whatever you said.....think about what 4 cores can do......that's right, twice as much more. Don't ever say there isn't a need for a newer technology, "right now" lol....that has been proven to be a dumb thing for anyone to think or say for the past 30-40 years....oh and btw, think how much more cpu power you'll need with double and triple the screen resolution.....lol. '

P.S. Anyone who says they don't need a quadcore is jealous they don't have a quadcore :), 6 core, 8core, etc.
 

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[citation][nom]tsmatthx2[/nom]Proven fact: 4 cores at 1.2ghz, is 200% faster, then 2 cores at 1.2ghz......If 2 cores at 1.2ghz can do it smoothly and blah blah whatever you said.....think about what 4 cores can do......that's right, twice as much more. Don't ever say there isn't a need for a newer technology, "right now" lol....that has been proven to be a dumb thing for anyone to think or say for the past 30-40 years....oh and btw, think how much more cpu power you'll need with double and triple the screen resolution.....lol. 'P.S. Anyone who says they don't need a quadcore is jealous they don't have a quadcore , 6 core, 8core, etc.[/citation]

That's not exactly how it works...
Quad cores, even with the most optimized for parallel processing software, still don't reach twice the performance of a dual core. They're usually slightly above 1.5x, and for unoptimized software, they offer almost no improvement at all.

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/08/quad-core-desktops-and-diminishing-returns.html
 

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[citation][nom]grantmcconnaughey[/nom]A couple of thoughts:First off, as soon as you call Apple "Crapple" you immediately lose all credibility. Second off, I really don't see a need for Quad Core right now. If they would only be implementing it to say "look at us, we have quad core" then they definitely don't need it! Consumers don't give a damn about how many cores something has or GHz or any of that nonsense. Most of them don't even understand what that means. What they want is for the product to work great, run smoothly, and do what they want it to do. If Apple can up the graphics, keep a dual core processor, and it still runs completely smoothly, then what's the point of going quad core?Thirdly (is that a word?...), to suggest that Apple going "retina display" with this new iPad isn't going to be "anything magical...hardware wise" is also silly. What other company has anything anything with a display that is 2048 x 1536, especially on a screen that isn't even 10 inches big! If they do pull that off, then THAT, my friends, will be "magical."No matter what happens, it'll sure be fun to watch.-(From an Apple AND Windows AND Droid AND Blackberry fan, and overall technology lover.)[/citation]

Agreed. nothing magical about hardware, and no one really cares. It is the software that uses it that makes the difference. Example, Retina display... Great but what is the use if you don't have the hi resolution icons and other software that makes use of it. You can put a quad core processor but if their is no visual benefit or functional benefit to it no one will even think about it. Apple does not release the same software on different hardware like many of it's competitors. Anytime there is a new product released with new hardware with new software in the form of Applications, or integrated applications, or software features that make use of the new hardware to differentiate the device not only from it's competitors but from it's previous generation. That is the only way they can have a yearly refresh cycle and consistently get current customers to purchase again along with those net new customers. Like them or not, they have done a good job with that.

For me personally, I have held off of purchasing a IPad precisely because I was waiting for a Retina display. I currently have a HP Touchpad that is virtually useless because of the application support and the performance (although some updates have improved the performance). There is no full non alpha release of Cyanogenmod for it so it is now delegated to Angry Birds duty for my 3 year old.
 

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[citation][nom]tsmatthx2[/nom]Proven fact: 4 cores at 1.2ghz, is 200% faster, then 2 cores at 1.2ghz......If 2 cores at 1.2ghz can do it smoothly and blah blah whatever you said.....think about what 4 cores can do......that's right, twice as much more. Don't ever say there isn't a need for a newer technology, "right now" lol....that has been proven to be a dumb thing for anyone to think or say for the past 30-40 years....oh and btw, think how much more cpu power you'll need with double and triple the screen resolution.....lol. 'P.S. Anyone who says they don't need a quadcore is jealous they don't have a quadcore , 6 core, 8core, etc.[/citation]

More capability does not equal more productivity bro. Applications are written to provide a user with a certain experience in the application. There is in most applications a point of diminishing returns as it relates to resource utilization. IOS is an incredible efficient OS and runs smooth as butter on dual cores. Quad Cores is not going to make it smoother but if there is an application that is CPU intensive enough to justify it I am sure it would be included into the package. Right now, there is not many applications on this type of device that actually even use Quad core. Hell, there is not many applications even on a PC that use all 4 cores.
 

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[citation][nom]ap3x[/nom]More capability does not equal more productivity bro. Applications are written to provide a user with a certain experience in the application. There is in most applications a point of diminishing returns as it relates to resource utilization. IOS is an incredible efficient OS and runs smooth as butter on dual cores. Quad Cores is not going to make it smoother but if there is an application that is CPU intensive enough to justify it I am sure it would be included into the package. Right now, there is not many applications on this type of device that actually even use Quad core. Hell, there is not many applications even on a PC that use all 4 cores.[/citation]

However, he does prove a point, albeit a moronic one: People who don't understand technology will gladly hand over their money for what appears to be an upgrade just because it has a bigger number. That alone is enough for a company to throw the upgrade in, because even if it doesn't actually improve performance, they'll make more sales.

As they say, a fool and his money are soon parted.
 

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At the end of the day, its an Apple. I will buy it as soon as someone puts out a hack to allow me to run Android on it. Maybe even Windows 8 for that matter. I hope someone makes Apple mad by doing that. I would be so happy to see Windows on an Apple product. Not sure why it can't be done as its really no different inside from other products. Its made by Foxconn like everything else in the world. I guess the Holy Layers at apple are too scary.
 

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[citation][nom]chicofehr[/nom]At the end of the day, its an Apple. I will buy it as soon as someone puts out a hack to allow me to run Android on it. Maybe even Windows 8 for that matter. I hope someone makes Apple mad by doing that. I would be so happy to see Windows on an Apple product. Not sure why it can't be done as its really no different inside from other products. Its made by Foxconn like everything else in the world. I guess the Holy Layers at apple are too scary.[/citation]

You can do that today on all of their computers. Windows actually runs very well on Apple hardware. Not sure why anyone would do it on a device like a IPad. The solution is really solid. I have seen Adroid running on a IPhone though.
 

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[citation][nom]tsmatthx2[/nom]Proven fact: 4 cores at 1.2ghz, is 200% faster, then 2 cores at 1.2ghz......If 2 cores at 1.2ghz can do it smoothly and blah blah whatever you said.....think about what 4 cores can do......that's right, twice as much more. Don't ever say there isn't a need for a newer technology, "right now" lol....that has been proven to be a dumb thing for anyone to think or say for the past 30-40 years....oh and btw, think how much more cpu power you'll need with double and triple the screen resolution.....lol. 'P.S. Anyone who says they don't need a quadcore is jealous they don't have a quadcore , 6 core, 8core, etc.[/citation]

If you're going to start off with Proven Fact, please make sure you know some basic math. Lets just imagine that power scaled perfectly with increased processors. If you have 2 @ 1.2 then going to 4 @ 1.2 would only net you a 100% increase not 200%.

So in summary
1) Processors do not scale perfectly
2) Learn some basic math
 

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So we are speculating about the specs of a chip purely by it's name we got from a photo from a part produced 3 month ago?

How about we stop arguing about the benefits of dualcore or quadcore CPUs in handheld devices and actually wait for the real hardware specs?
 
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