Pick a build for me!! ON A BUDGET 1000-1250$

[aocasio2891]

i have two builds in mind trust me i rather have a 1500 dollar build but i simply cant afford it so i have put together an amd and intel BUDGET build. please help me pick the one that would perform better for gaming/streaming/video editing (MOSTLY GAMING). i do plan on overclocking slightly maybe +4mhz or so. i went with the h100i for optimal cooling however im willing to resort to a more affordable option if you guys can recommend one that will still allow me to overclock with low temps. here are the builds...for funzies i will also link a dream build of mine maybe you guys can tweak it to get it close to my price range! PLEASE HELP MEEEEE

AMD BUILD
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HV9hGX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HV9hGX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($118.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Vapor-X Video Card ($301.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.79 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N53 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1129.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 13:21 EST-0500

INTEL BUILD
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/V7BsjX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/V7BsjX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($356.13 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($82.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N53 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1241.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 13:06 EST-0500

DREAM BUILD ):
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gtLtrH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gtLtrH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($356.13 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N53 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1589.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 13:07 EST-0500

 

[Spudmaster]

go with the i5 intel build and in future you could put in an i7 4790k if you wanted

 

[Eximo]

If you are going for appearance, not bad choices.

Plenty of ways to get the same performance for less, though.

You should avoid USB wifi adapters, get an internal PCIe card for a desktop. You will want the multi-channel multi-frequency capabilities.

 

[aocasio2891]

If you are going for appearance, not bad choices.

Plenty of ways to get the same performance for less, though.

You should avoid USB wifi adapters, get an internal PCIe card for a desktop. You will want the multi-channel multi-frequency capabilities.

can you recommend one?

 

[aocasio2891]

go with the i5 intel build and in future you could put in an i7 4790k if you wanted

can you back up your choice with a reason? will it perform considerably better? only a 100$ diff but that 100 can get me a noppoo mini choc hehe

 

[aocasio2891]

updated amd build

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BQbN23
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BQbN23/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($118.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Vapor-X Video Card ($301.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.79 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N53 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair SP120 (CO-9050014-WW) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1160.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 13:40 EST-0500

 

[endeavour37a]

go with the i5 intel build and in future you could put in an i7 4790k if you wanted

can you back up your choice with a reason? will it perform considerably better? only a 100$ diff but that 100 can get me a noppoo mini choc hehe

Let me try.....why a 4690k over a 8350...

In terms of raw single-core performance the flagship AMD FX-8350 is lagging behind intel's processor line-up by over two generations. The PassMark Single Thread scores for the i5-2500K vs the FX-8350 are 1863 to 1520 which shows that in terms of raw per-core processing the FX-8350 is lagging the two year old i5 by 23%. Where the AMD FX makes up is on multi-core performance, with a score of 9156 vs 6745, the AMD leads the Intel 2500K by 36% making it the far more capable multi-threaded server orientated performer. The AMD is also cheaper but significantly more power hungry which counts strongly against it as a sever proposition. The FX-8350 could be a good fit for specific server use cases but for general consumer use, which is single and dual core intensive, Intel's two year old i5-2500K will deliver better performance.

The Intel Core i5-4690K is the latest incremental upgrade to Intel's unlocked mid-range quad core family of processors. The 4690K replaces the 4670K. Comparing the 4690K and 4670K shows that little has changed. The two chips share identical architecture; in fact the only difference between them is a 100 MHz bump to both the base and turbo clocks. The 100 MHz bump translates to an insignificant 2.9% performance increase. In terms of outright performance the 4690K has an effective speed of 103 which thanks to its superb single and dual core performance, is 12% stronger than the average of the group leaders. Overall the 4690K brings nothing new to the table so owners of previous flagship i5's will gain little by upgrading but as a new purchase the 4690K is a strong contender for both power users and high end gamers.

The Intel Core i7-4790K, codenamed Devil's Canyon, is an upgraded 4770K, Intel's current flagship i7. The 4790K features an improved thermal interface which enables it to dissipate heat more efficiently than the 4770K. Comparing the 4770K and 4790K shows that stock performance has improved by 13% which is consistent with the base clock jump from 3.5 GHz to 4.0 GHz. OC performance remains unchanged. Comparing the 4790K and 4790 shows that at stock clocks the 4790K is around 16% faster which considering the small price difference makes the 4790K a far better choice. Previously Intel targeted the unlocked K versions at overclockers but with Devil's Canyon they have included VT-d on the K chip and this time it is squarely aimed at both power users and overclockers alike. Until the release of Broadwell in six months, the 4790K is the high end CPU of choice.

Perhaps also look into the Swiftech H220x or H240x for your CPU cooling, it's a very good cooler that is expandable to cover your GPU later on if you wanted to.

http://www.swiftech.com/H220-X.aspx#tab5
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/liquid/40870-swiftech-h220-x-open-loop-240mm-cpu-cooler-review
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6795/swiftech-h220-x-all-in-one-cpu-cooler-review/index.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Swiftech/H220-X/9.html

 

[endeavour37a]

Source of text on the CPUs were gotten here....
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/

Just did not want you to think that I wrote them, only a copy/paste for you to take a look at, hope you found it helpful...

 

[aocasio2891]

go with the i5 intel build and in future you could put in an i7 4790k if you wanted

can you back up your choice with a reason? will it perform considerably better? only a 100$ diff but that 100 can get me a noppoo mini choc hehe

Let me try.....why a 4690k over a 8350...

In terms of raw single-core performance the flagship AMD FX-8350 is lagging behind intel's processor line-up by over two generations. The PassMark Single Thread scores for the i5-2500K vs the FX-8350 are 1863 to 1520 which shows that in terms of raw per-core processing the FX-8350 is lagging the two year old i5 by 23%. Where the AMD FX makes up is on multi-core performance, with a score of 9156 vs 6745, the AMD leads the Intel 2500K by 36% making it the far more capable multi-threaded server orientated performer. The AMD is also cheaper but significantly more power hungry which counts strongly against it as a sever proposition. The FX-8350 could be a good fit for specific server use cases but for general consumer use, which is single and dual core intensive, Intel's two year old i5-2500K will deliver better performance.

The Intel Core i5-4690K is the latest incremental upgrade to Intel's unlocked mid-range quad core family of processors. The 4690K replaces the 4670K. Comparing the 4690K and 4670K shows that little has changed. The two chips share identical architecture; in fact the only difference between them is a 100 MHz bump to both the base and turbo clocks. The 100 MHz bump translates to an insignificant 2.9% performance increase. In terms of outright performance the 4690K has an effective speed of 103 which thanks to its superb single and dual core performance, is 12% stronger than the average of the group leaders. Overall the 4690K brings nothing new to the table so owners of previous flagship i5's will gain little by upgrading but as a new purchase the 4690K is a strong contender for both power users and high end gamers.

The Intel Core i7-4790K, codenamed Devil's Canyon, is an upgraded 4770K, Intel's current flagship i7. The 4790K features an improved thermal interface which enables it to dissipate heat more efficiently than the 4770K. Comparing the 4770K and 4790K shows that stock performance has improved by 13% which is consistent with the base clock jump from 3.5 GHz to 4.0 GHz. OC performance remains unchanged. Comparing the 4790K and 4790 shows that at stock clocks the 4790K is around 16% faster which considering the small price difference makes the 4790K a far better choice. Previously Intel targeted the unlocked K versions at overclockers but with Devil's Canyon they have included VT-d on the K chip and this time it is squarely aimed at both power users and overclockers alike. Until the release of Broadwell in six months, the 4790K is the high end CPU of choice.

great info dude. what do you think about the h100i? i love it! but if i want the i7-4790k i will have to go with a diff cpu cooler maybe a 2 tower design one? or hyper 212 evo? do you think it is even worth spending the extra 100$ for the i7? in terms of performance boost it is but if a new cpu is coming out in the coming months that will surpass the devils canyon i7 maybe i should save the 100$ difference between the 4690k and the 4790k so i can put it towards a broadwell cpu? also can you recommend a pcie wi-fi adapter ?

 

[aocasio2891]

i just watched a review on the h220 it is nice buuuut a bit expensive i like that it comes with the pwm fans i would use it for the amd build but not the intel one. (inte build is already close to my max budget)

 

[aocasio2891]

IM STILL UNDECIDED I NEED MORE OPINIONS!!

 

[endeavour37a]

From what I have read so far the Broadwell is not going to be big performance jump, it is all about shrinking the die (from 22nm to 14nm) and lowering power usage. Also a better iGPU, HD 5500, HD 6000 and Iris HD 6100. It should effect pricing a bit but I don't expect it will by very much really. For gaming the 4690k is hard to beat and should serve you well for a long time to come.

For a cheap cooler the 212 is a good choice but don't expect much thermal headroom from it to OC a lot, it is what it is. If I were going to invest in water I would get something that will last and could go from build to build, the H220x fits that ticket, not a H100i. There are many good coolers out there, hard to recommend one, performance/price and weight vary greatly.

Not a clue about a Wi-Fi card, but I would go with a PCIe based one in stead of a USB.

 

[theiDunnotouch]

i have two builds in mind trust me i rather have a 1500 dollar build but i simply cant afford it so i have put together an amd and intel BUDGET build. please help me pick the one that would perform better for gaming/streaming/video editing (MOSTLY GAMING). i do plan on overclocking slightly maybe +4mhz or so. i went with the h100i for optimal cooling however im willing to resort to a more affordable option if you guys can recommend one that will still allow me to overclock with low temps. here are the builds...for funzies i will also link a dream build of mine maybe you guys can tweak it to get it close to my price range! PLEASE HELP MEEEEE

AMD BUILD
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HV9hGX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HV9hGX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($118.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Vapor-X Video Card ($301.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.79 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N53 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1129.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 13:21 EST-0500

INTEL BUILD
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/V7BsjX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/V7BsjX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($356.13 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($82.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N53 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1241.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 13:06 EST-0500

DREAM BUILD ):
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gtLtrH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gtLtrH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($356.13 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N53 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1589.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 13:07 EST-0500

This is probably the best build for the money, I also threw in Windows 8.1

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RTQ8zy

if you can spend more money, get a 240gb SSD