Question picking out a pre-built system, big-box or boutique?

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okay, boilerplate:
Approximate Purchase Date: Mid-November (ideally)
Budget Range: 1500-1700
System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming
Are you buying a monitor: almost certainly, under $200
Parts to Upgrade: whole damn thing, storage will get migrated in the short term
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, no microcenter nearby
Location: US West
Parts Preferences: none
Overclocking: probably not
SLI or Crossfire: Yes / No / Maybe
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, upgrade to 1440p
Additional Comments: 'several' browser tabs open all the time. no streaming, but occasional video transcoding with Handbrake. typical system load is something like 70-80% CPU, 60% ram, GPU load's all over the place
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: current GPU is 9+ years old, on second set of fans. CPU could stand upgrading too. increasing system requirements for Guild Wars 2, desire to play above minimum GFX quality, play other titles released more recently than 2013 (like halo MCC).

Current specs are: i5-4690K 4c/4t @ 3.7ghz (stock clock, no OC), Asus Z97-A, Corsair H100 AIO cooler, 16GB G.Skill DDR3 12800, MSI GTX 660 TI 2GB PE/OC (running underclocked because its old), Acer G235HAbd 23", Corsair C70 Vengeance, Antec Earthwatts 650w.
Storage is 125gb SSD, 256gb SSD, 500gb HDD (which i aim to eventually consolidate into one 1tb SSD, probably NVME flavor), and , 1tb HDD, 2tb HDD which are for games and videos.

I'm looking to upgrade to a Ryzen 5 5600x and an RTX 3060 (TI preferred, if available), because that looks like the best bang/buck these days per TomsHardware. I can live with 16gb ram and upgrade later if there's a pressing need. in a more normal world id just buy the stuff and be done with it, but prices are wack and supply's not much better (newegg's 3060TI's are all north of $800 from 3rd-party sellers at time of posting).
Since i need to pretty much upgrade everything at this point, i'd rather not deal with that headache so i'm looking at pre-built systems.
Budget is 1500-1700$, because that's what it looks like a 5600x/3060 system is going to cost. i'll have to buy a monitor separately because my current one doesnt have any HDMI/DP ports, just DVI and VGA, anything not spent on the system goes to the monitor budget.

Shortlist is HP Omen 30L (reviewed on TH december last year with a different configuration). 5600x/3060-12gb(non-ti), 16gb ddr4, and 1tb nvme SSD config runs $1640 at time of posting.
BestBuy has a 5600G/3060-12gb Omen config for $1350, (is the savings worth dropping the -X part?) one downside i'm noticing here is it looks like this version only has 2 ram slots on the motherboard, judging from the spec table. Bestbuy also has an 5800x/3060TI config at $1700, with a proper 4 ram slots.

Option 2 is Maingear Vybe, 5600x/3060TI config lists at $1700. however, i dont like the positioning of the power button and front panel USB ports on their case, it'd be up against a wall and hard to access.

Option 3 is Skytech Shadow 3.0 which comes with either an 12gb 3060 or an 8gb 3060TI, but they're paired with a an older Ryzen 5 3600 to keep it under my budget limit, 5600x options are $2k+ from Skytech. i like their case better than maingear's, for the top mounted frontpanel, even if its heavy on the RGB and visually louder.

Dell's in the same price range and also has 6600xt/6700xt gpu options, but i just cant with that alienware case.

opinions/thoughts/recommendations? something else i ought to be looking at?
 
okay, boilerplate:
Approximate Purchase Date: Mid-November (ideally)
Budget Range: 1500-1700
System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming
Are you buying a monitor: almost certainly, under $200
Parts to Upgrade: whole damn thing, storage will get migrated in the short term
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, no microcenter nearby
Location: US West
Parts Preferences: none
Overclocking: probably not
SLI or Crossfire: Yes / No / Maybe
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, upgrade to 1440p
Additional Comments: 'several' browser tabs open all the time. no streaming, but occasional video transcoding with Handbrake. typical system load is something like 70-80% CPU, 60% ram, GPU load's all over the place
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: current GPU is 9+ years old, on second set of fans. CPU could stand upgrading too. increasing system requirements for Guild Wars 2, desire to play above minimum GFX quality, play other titles released more recently than 2013 (like halo MCC).

Current specs are: i5-4690K 4c/4t @ 3.7ghz (stock clock, no OC), Asus Z97-A, Corsair H100 AIO cooler, 16GB G.Skill DDR3 12800, MSI GTX 660 TI 2GB PE/OC (running underclocked because its old), Acer G235HAbd 23", Corsair C70 Vengeance, Antec Earthwatts 650w.
Storage is 125gb SSD, 256gb SSD, 500gb HDD (which i aim to eventually consolidate into one 1tb SSD, probably NVME flavor), and , 1tb HDD, 2tb HDD which are for games and videos.

I'm looking to upgrade to a Ryzen 5 5600x and an RTX 3060 (TI preferred, if available), because that looks like the best bang/buck these days per TomsHardware. I can live with 16gb ram and upgrade later if there's a pressing need. in a more normal world id just buy the stuff and be done with it, but prices are wack and supply's not much better (newegg's 3060TI's are all north of $800 from 3rd-party sellers at time of posting).
Since i need to pretty much upgrade everything at this point, i'd rather not deal with that headache so i'm looking at pre-built systems.
Budget is 1500-1700$, because that's what it looks like a 5600x/3060 system is going to cost. i'll have to buy a monitor separately because my current one doesnt have any HDMI/DP ports, just DVI and VGA, anything not spent on the system goes to the monitor budget.

Shortlist is HP Omen 30L (reviewed on TH december last year with a different configuration). 5600x/3060-12gb(non-ti), 16gb ddr4, and 1tb nvme SSD config runs $1640 at time of posting.
BestBuy has a 5600G/3060-12gb Omen config for $1350, (is the savings worth dropping the -X part?) one downside i'm noticing here is it looks like this version only has 2 ram slots on the motherboard, judging from the spec table. Bestbuy also has an 5800x/3060TI config at $1700, with a proper 4 ram slots.

Option 2 is Maingear Vybe, 5600x/3060TI config lists at $1700. however, i dont like the positioning of the power button and front panel USB ports on their case, it'd be up against a wall and hard to access.

Option 3 is Skytech Shadow 3.0 which comes with either an 12gb 3060 or an 8gb 3060TI, but they're paired with a an older Ryzen 5 3600 to keep it under my budget limit, 5600x options are $2k+ from Skytech. i like their case better than maingear's, for the top mounted frontpanel, even if its heavy on the RGB and visually louder.

Dell's in the same price range and also has 6600xt/6700xt gpu options, but i just cant with that alienware case.

opinions/thoughts/recommendations? something else i ought to be looking at?
HP Omen got pretty bad reviews as far as cooling/airflow

500w won't handle the 3060 Ti tmk

The 3600 is outdated as far as gaming performance imo.
 
You could do something like this and have a local PC shop put it together for you if you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself.

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p400a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854085
Phanteks Eclipse P400A Mid Tower Computer Case $74.99

Exhaust fan for that case.

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-F12-PWM-PST-Technology/dp/B002QVLBM2/
ARCTIC P12 PWM, 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan $6.99

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-bronze-sf-650r14he-650w/p/1HU-024C-00017
Super Flower Leadex III Bronze PRO 650W 80+ Bronze Modular Power Supply $89.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144396
MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA $139.99

or ...

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b560m-aorus-pro/p/N82E16813145332
GIGABYTE AORUS B560M $139.99

https://www.calhountech.com/products/intel-cm8070804497016-intel-i5-11400f-4-4ghz-w-o-graphics.html
Intel Core i5-11400F $207.90

https://www.amazon.com/Gelid-Solutions-Black-CPU-Cooler/dp/B00BF3LF2I
Gelid Solutions Phantom Black CPU Cooler $39.99

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T/
TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 3200MHz 16GB Kit (2x8GB) CL16 $62.99

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-sn550-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250135
WD Blue SN550 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCIe 3D NAND Internal SSD $94.99
+ $10 off w/ promo code SSDTCV3

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Graphics-DisplayPort-Mazepoly-Accessory/dp/B09FVLSNZ2/
MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Gaming X Graphics Card $939.00

Total: $1647

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B560M-BAZOOKA

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10#kf

http://www.phanteks.com/Eclipse-P400A.html

Reviews of that cpu with benchmarks.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i5-11400f-processor-review,1.html

 
Jan 25, 2015
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You could do something like this and have a local PC shop put it together for you if you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself.
thanks for the parts suggestions. i think i'd like to go AMD though, just for a change if nothing else, even if an i5-11xx is somewhat cheaper

im comfortable building it myself, but the sole reason why im even looking at pre-builts is because i dont want to deal with the headache and hassel of finding a GPU in stock at a retailer and not from a secondary market (ebay) or reseller. i have a hard time justifying spending that much on a 3060, given that the launch MSRP was like $400 (cue derisive laughter), and at least with a pre-built i can kind of fool myself into thinking the video card is not criminally overpriced.
 

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