[SOLVED] Ping spikes that have reach 10 000ms and usually every minute at least 100-350 spike

[Cooneybe658]

I’ve been for months trying to find a good ISP because my ping spikes are insanely high however I hear that my ISP (Cogeco) is not the worst ISP on the market. I know the spikes are not coming from my router because before they supplied me with their own i had a 350$ one that made no difference. I got a new router/modem when I upgraded to their 320mps download plan, and I was thinking of trying to get a fiber line installed because what they only supply is a coaxial fiber line meaning the fibre stops at the begging of my neighbourhood. I have no idea if not having fiber is the issue with my ping however since last year I’ve been invited to gaming events worth over 500k in prize pools and it’s hard keeping up the the competition with this lag. I am here trying to find the issue with the spikes if it’s truely is my ISP or could it just be I don’t have fibre lines directly to my ISP and forced to share cable with my neighbours. And if the fiber is an issue I NEED FIBER because i can’t go any longer with this ping and could someone put a price on how much they may charge for a 500m-1km line of this fiber cable because they don’t want to give me a price until after it’s done and i may just end up asking another ISP to do it because I feel like they would be more trust worthy.

Last note my friend has the same plan as me but with fiber and he’s with Bell but has never gotten a pig spike he was able to track in his life and lives less than 3km away from my house however Bell is not offered to me only Cogeco has speeds that’s over 60mbs but it’s still cable

 

[Cooneybe658]

On a side note I’m willing to spend upwards of 2000$ on fixing my ping spikes

 

[bill001g]

$2000 lol.

We paid $10,000 to just bore fiber under a street because the fiber was on the wrong side. It took months to get the permits.

We also had fiber bored about 1.5 miles in a large city. I was told it cost over 1/2 million dollars. This was private fiber runs not even hooked to a ISP. A lot of the cost was to pay the city for the right away.

You need to run tracert and see where the delays occur. You will likely have to ping the hops by hand if the problem is intermittent to find the hop it really occurs at.

Fiber is not some magic solution. Most fiber solution function exactly the same way cabletv systems work. The connection between your house and the ISP first hub uses shared bandwidth. There is only a single downlink fiber channel shared between all the people on the same system.

There are other fiber designs but I think only google uses dedicated fiber for the end run.

 

[failboat]

I'd recommend some monitoring. You need to see if your line is congested when you get spikes. All the ISP cares about is if the pipe they sell you works. You gotta monitor/manage clogs on your side.

Any download or upload will swamp you until it's complete. on a connection that fast most small things should complete before you see any bufferbloat. if you're trying to stream managing upload can be difficult. most uploads are only sized for tcp downloads. so you can choke up quick with moderate downloads while streaming. I think TCP is around 10/1. So while you download it's using 32Mbs of your upload.

 

[Cooneybe658]

$2000 lol.

We paid $10,000 to just bore fiber under a street because the fiber was on the wrong side. It took months to get the permits.

We also had fiber bored about 1.5 miles in a large city. I was told it cost over 1/2 million dollars. This was private fiber runs not even hooked to a ISP. A lot of the cost was to pay the city for the right away.

You need to run tracert and see where the delays occur. You will likely have to ping the hops by hand if the problem is intermittent to find the hop it really occurs at.

Fiber is not some magic solution. Most fiber solution function exactly the same way cabletv systems work. The connection between your house and the ISP first hub uses shared bandwidth. There is only a single downlink fiber channel shared between all the people on the same system.

There are other fiber designs but I think only google uses dedicated fiber for the end run.

Would a DSL w/ the same upload and download be better in terms of ping spikes (i know it matter how far you are but if i get 50-60 ping with no ping spikes ever it probably be better.)

 

[bill001g]

DSL the connection between your house and the ISP is dedicated. It is still shared past the location where all the DSL lines connect but all internet is eventually shared. DSL will not be impacted by other users as much because the DSL connection are so slow. When you compare the speed of the DSL to the fiber connection between the DSL hub device and the internet it is almost impossible to exceed the bandwidth. Cable systems in general should not have a issue either unless the ISP has greatly oversold them.