Pioneer Blu Ray 6x squared technology

[Darkbreeze]

Ok, I don't generally post questions, because between myself and the rest of the moderation team, we generally know everything there is to know about everything, except this. None of us can find a damn thing about the Pioneer 6x squared technology aside from that it's noted on most of the more recent Pioneer Blu Ray writer/burners and that there is a miniscule mention of it with no explanation or description in the Blu Ray specification white papers.

Somebody has to know what the heck this is and what it actually denotes. If you do, let us know here and we'll give you a brand new NVME M.2 drive. Ok, that last part is a lie, but I'll definitely appreciate it and you will be able to take comfort in the fact that you knew something that apparently the entire moderation team, minus a few members who likely didn't chime in, did not. Either way, you'll get a BA out of it if you're able to find an answer, which we were not. Thanks guys.

 

[Mark RM]

It's nothing but a marketing term.
6x burn speed on 2 layer discs. Of course it's 6x on single layer as well but that doesn't sound so cool.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Nope. Nothing to do with dual layer. Other brands/burners have the same speeds on dual or single layer discs, but NONE of them except the pioneer drives specifiy the 6x squared formula. I too thought it was some form of marketing schpeel, perhaps, but the fact that it is outlined in the Blu Ray specification white papers clearly squashes that idea. Technical papers don't offer references to meaningless marketing ideals, ever. So I'm pretty doubtful of that being accurate. Also, the fact that it is a squared formula indicator, rather than simply 6xDL, 6x SDL, 6x 2L or simply 6x2 with no squared formula, sort of makes that a wash as well.

If it turns out you're right, then of course I'll be happy to eat this response, but I'm highly doubtful especially due to it's inclusion in the Blu Ray official specifications. Unfortunately, while it's clearly noted there, there is no explanation or description of WHAT exactly it is. Neither Pioneer nor the White Paper Blu-ray Disc™ Format General 4th Edition August, 2015 offer any clarification, but both reference it.

 

[Mark RM]

You won't have to eat your hat
"Faster burning
6x2 writing on BD-R single-layer and dual-layer discs. 4x writing on BD-R triple-layer and quad layer discs." is the blurb

It's literally 2 lasers at 6x speeds writing simultaneously.

 

[Darkbreeze]

That does make sense. I saw that too, but I must have missed where it denotes two lasers burning simultaneously.

So, are we saying that Pioneer is the only drive manufacturer using dual lasers on any of their Blu Ray writers? Because I don't see any other drives out there claiming to have this 6 x2 tech on their drives. And what's escpecially confusing is why there is no info on this?

You'd think that something like having dual lasers when everybody else has only one, would be something they'd be shouting from the top of Amazon, or wherever the roof of the internet is located.

 

[Mark RM]

But for what market? I mean Blu Ray is OK as archival media but it's a still a fairly narrow place to spend your marketing dollars especially when you get kicked in the financial ballsack ala Pioneer.

Anyhow, the drives write data quickly. A nice to have.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Let's just say I like to make sure Redbox never ends up without back ups for all their movies.


I'm actually more concerned with read speeds than write speeds, since primarily I'll be ripping to data storage rather than writing disks, but occasionally I may want to write disks and I'll definitely periodically archive some data that I keep backed up to various locations simply so I have an additional backup of data that I can store in my fire proof safe every so often.

If it's important, you can never have too many backups of it.

 

[Mark RM]

Amen brother.

This is probably my fifth ID on Toms over the years ( i mean All the years), I normally just hang out in December to help the "Christmas noobs" over the hump, just because people have money and bought stuff on black Friday and have no idea where to go to get a hand. You see how desperate people are for at least an answer in the right direction. Can't help them all, but sometimes the conversation moves in a way that gets the answer out of someone else and that's all that matters.

The mods do good work here, it's relatively calm.

Happy backups.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I totally hear that. This year seems to be somewhat, calmer, than normal after Christmas. I think the prices of RAM and the lack of any really good NEW tech sort of diminished the number of people with a need for assistance this time around.

I think an awful lot of people probably figured hell with upgrading right now since upgrade potential over the past few gens isn't terribly impressive and with RAM being so expensive it's worth waiting to see if the fabs get supply back up after the switch to the new process that caused them to be shut down for a while, which decreased supply and increased prices.

Of course the average person has no idea about that, they just know that prices are sky high and are being told to wait. Just seems like there were a lot less Christmas noobs this year than normal.