Planing to switch from AMD to Intel 2015 Gaming Build

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Well after reading up on the difference on cores and threads, I see that Intel Quad versions is better than the AMD FX 8 Cores. But imagine if AMD 8 Cores was 16 threads...anyways here is what I came up with on a i7 4790K and i7 5820K Build

i7 4790K - $1950.00 w/o tax & shipping

Intel Core i7-4790K Haswell Quad-Core 4.0GHz LGA 1150 - $339.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369
ASUS Z97-A LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s - $144.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132118
Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 - $144.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233600

i7 5820K - $2100.00 w/o tax & shipping
Intel Core i7-5820K Haswell-E 6-Core 3.3GHz LGA 2011-v3 - $389.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402
ASUS X99-A LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 - $254.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132261
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 - $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233716

Both Will Have:
EVGA 220-GS-0850-V1 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD - $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438034
SAMSUNG 850 EVO-Series MZ-75E500B/AM 2.5" 500GB SATA III - $239.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373
PowerColor PCS+ AXR9 290X 8GBD5-PPDHE Radeon R9 290X 8GB 512-Bit GDDR5 - $429.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131608 (Always out of Stock)
NZXT Phantom 820 Series CA-PH820-M1 Matte Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower - $229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146097
Corsair Hydro Series H105 Extreme Performance 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler - $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181060
Logitech Z623 200 w 2.1 Speaker System - $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121048
Logitech G502 Proteus Core Tunable Gaming Mouse - $68.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104934

Amazing that both build actually comes very close to my other AMD Pre-Builds on my earlier post. Now the question remains...which one to go with and is there another mobo or RAM that's equal to what I posted above but cheaper? And I'm sticking with AMD R9 because 8GB of 512 DDR5 is far better than any NVidia cards.
 
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What is the purpose for this build?
If I presume gaming, the 4790K build will be superior.
Few games are going to use the 6 cores where the 5820K would shine.
In the process, the individual 4790K cores will be clocked higher and can oc higher.

The main gaming advantage of the X99 chipset is the availability of more than 2 pcie lanes for graphics cards.
Triple cards is usually a bit over the top.

Also, intel does not depend on fast ram.
1.5v 1866 will be fine:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not...
What is the purpose for this build?
If I presume gaming, the 4790K build will be superior.
Few games are going to use the 6 cores where the 5820K would shine.
In the process, the individual 4790K cores will be clocked higher and can oc higher.

The main gaming advantage of the X99 chipset is the availability of more than 2 pcie lanes for graphics cards.
Triple cards is usually a bit over the top.

Also, intel does not depend on fast ram.
1.5v 1866 will be fine:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua NH-D15 or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

I suggest a noctua nh-D15 or phanteks with dual 140mm fans.
Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well
 
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Thanks for the input guys, I will lower both RAMs to 1866 on the 1150 and 2133 on the 2011. I haven't had any issues with my small water cooler but then again, I have it mounted to the rear fan slot so its taking all the heat completely out of the case. Maybe I should consider that with this next build since I don't really plan to OC much. 09................. said to wait, which I plan to. I won't get this new build until end of Spring when games like the Witcher 3 comes out and the only reason why I'm looking towards the 5820K is for the future, not the present so to speak.
 
My guess is that broadwell will bring a 10% price/performance benefit .
I don't expect to see broadwell by spring.
Skylake brings a new motherboard and cpu so I am guessing more like the end of the year.

If you wait for the next best thing, you will wait forever.
If you have a need now, buy now.
 

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Decisions...Decisions...I only have one shoot at this & can only build new builds every 4-5 years, hence my current build was built in Feb 2011...upgraded through-out 2012. This is a completely new build, so want something that will last and ready for future upgrades without changing the mobo, cpu, & RAM. They coming out with separate Skylake boards to support both DDR3 & DD4 which is lame, but they are also coming out with newer Haswell/Broadwell CPUs as well. Ugh
 

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