Build Advice Planned New Build, Seeking Advice, i7-13700K, RTX 4090

[Landwolf]

Greetings computer people, I am seeking comments on a new system I am planning on building within the next few months, any advice is appreciated.

Here is the build on PCPartPicker.

Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor​

Don't expect to need i9 power, lower heat output​

Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler​

Sticking with air cooling currently, may try an AIO later​

Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard​

Good experiences with Asus, matches GPU, has needed slots, not overly expensive​

2x Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory​

Don't really need that much, but it would be nice to not have to worry about upgrading later, Vengence is highly rated and confirmed compatible with Mobo​

Samsung 980 Pro w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive​

Main drive w/ OS, already have a separate drive for game library​

Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card​

One of the cheaper 4090s currently, from a brand I'm familiar with, specs look solid​

Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case​

Solid case w/o frills, not going with full tower b/c space constraints​

Corsair HX1200 Platinum 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply​

Modular, high efficiency rating, good headroom for possible later upgrades, will be used with UPS​

Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - USB 64-bit​

Not ready to try Linux for daily driver, mostly forced to 11 because Microsoft​

My use case is a daily driver, primarily for gaming, with VR (Index) expected down the road with this new build, however this system may also see development work, but only on a personal project basis. Also, no plans for overclocking.
There isn't a hard budget, but I would prefer to not exceed 4k (5k minus Index kit).
Also not currently looking at periferals, I expect to be reusing most from previous build, with upgrades later possible.

Primarily, I'm seeking advice on optimal stability and compatability of the system, but I'm also open to any recommendations.

 

[hotaru.hino]

Somewhere that could save a little money, if there's no feature on a Pro version of Windows that you really need, I would advise to go down to the Home version. But that's about it.

 

[Landwolf]

Somewhere that could save a little money, if there's no feature on a Pro version of Windows that you really need, I would advise to go down to the Home version. But that's about it.

Hyper-V and Group Policy I expect I'll need, which are pro-only.

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284
Corsair 600W PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR Type-4 PSU Power Cable $19.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-990-pro-health-dropping-fast

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/fake-samsung-980-pro

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VZ...ie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p5pssd8
Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVME SSD $131.99

or ...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4K...tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t3x0e
Western Digital Black SN770 2TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVME SSD $119.99

You want 2 sticks of RAM for these Intel builds otherwise it can stress the memory controller. Either 2x16GB or 2x32GB. Games take advantage of low latency RAM so the lower the latency the better.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x4...ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3040f16gx2-rs5k
G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5-6000 32GB (2x16GB) CL30 $129.99

or if you want 64GB ...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BJ...ddr5-6000-cl32-memory-f5-6000j3238g32gx2-rs5k
G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5-6000 64GB (2x32GB) CL32 $259.99

Board with better audio codec (Realtek 4080)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8m6p99/msi-pro-z790-a-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z790-a-wifi
MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI $259.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI

And a case to have a look at. This case was recently released and has been named 'case of the year' by multiple tech review sites.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qP2WGX/lian-li-lancool-216-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-216x
Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case $99.90

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/lian-li-lancool-216-review

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykbhuv6yLBc

 

[hotaru.hino]

Hyper-V and Group Policy I expect I'll need, which are pro-only.

Hyper-V isn't strictly needed unless you want Windows to manage VMs. Otherwise you can use something like VirtualBox if you're getting into VMs.

Group Policy is something you shouldn't be touching unless you absolutely know what you're doing. And if it's to do something like disable Windows Updates, well...

 

[Landwolf]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284
Corsair 600W PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR Type-4 PSU Power Cable $19.99

Clarify some please, why would this be useful?

Would there be a major problem over using the supplied cables?

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-990-pro-health-dropping-fast

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/fake-samsung-980-pro

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VZ...ie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p5pssd8
Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVME SSD $131.99

or ...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4K...tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t3x0e
Western Digital Black SN770 2TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVME SSD $119.99

Hmm, Samsung has been my go-to for drives for a while, with solid performance, so while the issues mentioned are worth taking consideration on, I feed a tad reluctant at the same time.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cr...tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t2x0e
How about this one, any thoughts? A tad pricer, but seems to have higher marks.

You want 2 sticks of RAM for these Intel builds otherwise it can stress the memory controller. Either 2x16GB or 2x32GB. Games take advantage of low latency RAM so the lower the latency the better.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x4...ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3040f16gx2-rs5k
G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5-6000 32GB (2x16GB) CL30 $129.99

or if you want 64GB ...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BJ...ddr5-6000-cl32-memory-f5-6000j3238g32gx2-rs5k
G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5-6000 64GB (2x32GB) CL32 $259.99

Noted, I wasn't aware of the issues with the 13th gen memory controller.

Board with better audio codec (Realtek 4080)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8m6p99/msi-pro-z790-a-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z790-a-wifi
MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI $259.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI

Hmm, I had looked at it before, but it didn't stand out, I'll give it another pass.

Good to note about the different audio codec, now I have to decide if it's worth not having my Mobo match my GPU...

 

[Landwolf]

Hyper-V isn't strictly needed unless you want Windows to manage VMs. Otherwise you can use something like VirtualBox if you're getting into VMs.

Group Policy is something you shouldn't be touching unless you absolutely know what you're doing. And if it's to do something like disable Windows Updates, well...

I monkey around with Docker on occasion, so I'll need Hyper-V for that eventually.

I'm very aware of the risks with changing Group Policy, and I'm definitely hoping changes aren't needed, but sadly that hasn't yet been proven true for me, and the added cost doesn't bother me.

 

[Why_Me]

Clarify some please, why would this be useful?

Would there be a major problem over using the supplied cables?


Hmm, Samsung has been my go-to for drives for a while, with solid performance, so while the issues mentioned are worth taking consideration on, I feed a tad reluctant at the same time.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cr...tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t2x0e
How about this one, any thoughts? A tad pricer, but seems to have higher marks.


Noted, I wasn't aware of the issues with the 13th gen memory controller.


Hmm, I had looked at it before, but it didn't stand out, I'll give it another pass.

Good to note about the different audio codec, now I have to decide if it's worth not having my Mobo match my GPU...

1. not necessary but it is a better connector.
2. I haven't read any negative pieces on the 850 Pro.

 

[Landwolf]

So I felt it would be good to include an update, as I completed the build and it seems to be working fine.

The is the final build I went with.

I had wanted the regular D15 for the cooler, but sadly when I went to place the order Microcenter only had the D15S in stock, but not a huge issue, as the offset radiator gives more space between it and the GPU, and I picked up an extra fan afterward (also covers, because why not).

Stuck with the TUF Mobo, maybe not the best choice, but it's been working fine.

I gave up on trying to find a 2x32GB kit of ram that was both on the Mobo's OVL, and didn't have RGB, and just went with what had the lowest latency, which has almost entirely worked fine. The only issue was when running with the default XMP enabled, it wasn't stable (crashing within a few minutes in Cyberpunk 2077), so after a little research, and trying a few things, dropping the speed to 7kMT seems to have worked (several hours in Cyberpunk, no crash). Research has indicated that it shouldn't cause any issues, and while it sucks to not get all the speed I had paid for, the kit otherwise works great, and having to order the 7kMT kit to replace it and risk getting a borked one I don't feel it worth the trouble of saving about $5-$10.

The Western Digital drive is my main drive with the OS, works great, system boots in about 22 seconds, and shuts down in about as much time as it takes for me to stand up from my desk, which is great.

The Samsung is actually one I had in my previous system, I had planned to use it to dual boot Win 7 and 10, but never got around to it, so I threw it in an use it as a game drive to save wear on my main.

4090 is a a heck of a lad, absolute unit, but works great, no issues detected so far, and Cyberpunk has never looked better for me. Only problem is the mass of cables it needs for power, I have ordered the adapter that was recommended, and it will come on Thursday, but until then, I have a wonderful nest of 4 PCIe cables I can largely ignore, thanks to the case.

Speaking of the case, this was a more major change-up. I was originally looking at the 5000D, but one issue I have in my office is space, and I learned from my last build is that I didn't really need the expandability of an EATX board and a full tower. So enter the 4000D, and honestly, I'm really enjoying the smaller form factor. Made the build a little harder (note to self, install Mobo, then CPU cooler, not other way around), but having the extra desk space is nice. Filled that bad boy with Noctua S12A fans, and it's as cool as a cucumber.

No issues to speak of with the PSU, though this build doesn't have any SATA devices, so it's kinda nice to not have too many cables (I'll have less with the 4090 cable coming, bonus,).

And Win 11, which is okay. I don't care for the rounded corners on everything, but at least I can left-align the taskbar, and put the start button in the corner where it belongs. I also detest how Microsoft names the user folder if you create an account with an MS account (taking the first five letters of your email). Stupidly minor, I know, but it still bothers me far too much. However, luckily, I got just the right installer version to avoid that, by creating a local account first, and then signing in my my MS account, thank goodness.