[SOLVED] (Planning) Would Like Some Critique/Input On This Build

[RKD2313]

Intended Usage: Workstation that mainly revolves around multitasking. I sell fulltime with multiple online stores.
Day to day operations mainly consist of, but not limited to these types of simultaneous activity:
- Multiple Chrome Tabs open (Between both personal and business, my tab count can get pretty pathetic I must admit)
- Web Scraping (Legally. Not scraping any type of sensitive or private information. Only getting data anyone could get manually)
- E-Commerce driven software(s)
- Watching YouTube
- Very light video editing with Corel Video Studio

There is usually searches going on in the background multiple days a week.

I do not game and I realize this build would be considered overkill for its intended use, but I like having the option to game if something changes + just like to somewhat stay with the current times. If a piece of software comes out or I want to do something more with the build in the future Im not limited.


I know the Ryzen 7 5800X has the propensity to get hot so Im wondering if that CPU cooler sufficient?
I like that case below and also really like the LIAN LI LANCOOL II MESH C RGB SNOW WHITE - ATX Case

I have an ASUS GeForce GTX OC 1650 4GB - ASUS GeForce 3060 I included in the parts list & PNY GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB XLR8 Gaming OC Edition (Single Fan)
I included the 3060 in the parts list just to make sure my case and PSU would be sufficient. I will keep 2 of these GPU's and sell the other.


Thanks for all critiques and input. Tech is 1 of the few things I enjoy learning about ~ This will be my 2nd ever build


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($349.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.99 @ GameStop)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($153.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA P2 650 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair LL140 51.5 CFM 140 mm Fans 2-Pack ($69.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1319.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-07 08:09 EST-0500

 

[Lutfij]

From your build listed above, the only thing I'd change is get a PSU that's of 750, from the same brand or from Corsair or from Seasonic, in order to have some headroom and that you can retain the PSU for a longer period of time. Outside of that, the build looks alright! Oh, right, if I were you, I'd get a smaller case unless you plan on populating a custom watercooling loop inside the chassis.

 

[Hellfire13]

The 12700k is also a very good CPU, mostly better than the 5800x...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14h25fKMpY


PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor | $364.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Deepcool ASSASSIN III 90.37 CFM CPU Cooler | $89.99 @ B&H
Motherboard | Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $238.07 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory | $162.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Corsair MP600 PRO XT 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $159.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Asus GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card |-
Case | Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case | $135.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $84.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1256.02
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $1236.02
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-07 09:26 EST-0500 |

 

[punkncat]

Honestly, given your use case there is zero reason to be "wasting" build money on a GPU. You don't need it. I would focus on core count and RAM (which you have). This use case begs for Intel TBH. Save that GPU money and put it on a nicer monitor, an SSD instead of HDD, or just pocket the five hundred or so bucks....(edit $600 or so, WOW!*#@!)

 

[RKD2313]

The 12700k is also a very good CPU, mostly better than the 5800x...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14h25fKMpY


PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor | $364.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Deepcool ASSASSIN III 90.37 CFM CPU Cooler | $89.99 @ B&H
Motherboard | Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $238.07 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory | $162.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Corsair MP600 PRO XT 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $159.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Asus GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card |-
Case | Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case | $135.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $84.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1256.02
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $1236.02
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-07 09:26 EST-0500 |

Im not partial to one brand or the other, but I thought AMD was "Better" because they have the ability to multitask much more efficiently ?

 

[RKD2313]

From your build listed above, the only thing I'd change is get a PSU that's of 750, from the same brand or from Corsair or from Seasonic, in order to have some headroom and that you can retain the PSU for a longer period of time. Outside of that, the build looks alright! Oh, right, if I were you, I'd get a smaller case unless you plan on populating a custom watercooling loop inside the chassis.

Thanks for the input. I did have a 850 PSU, but then I saw estimated wattage at like 530 or something so I went with the 750. I do understand what you're saying though. Wouldn't be a bad idea few a couple extra bucks.

As for the case, I can go smaller. I didnt have a watercooling pump planned for this build

 

[RKD2313]

Honestly, given your use case there is zero reason to be "wasting" build money on a GPU. You don't need it. I would focus on core count and RAM (which you have). This use case begs for Intel TBH. Save that GPU money and put it on a nicer monitor, an SSD instead of HDD, or just pocket the five hundred or so bucks....(edit $600 or so, WOW!*#@!)

I must be missing something in regards to reading over multitasking/workstation topics. I thought the general consensus was AMD was better than Intel when it comes to multitasking? I was even contemplating getting the Ryzen 9 5900 😧 Is it just in terms of efficiency AMD has more bang for the buck in terms of multitasking ?

The GPU's I have for resell. I will keep 1 for myself, but I didnt buy any of them for personal use. I got them at MSRP, so I was just saying I would keep 1 and sell the other 2

 

[Hellfire13]

Im not partial to one brand or the other, but I thought AMD was "Better" because they have the ability to multitask much more efficiently ?

That was in the past. Not the case anymore. Intel and AMD are pretty even now, but since Alderlake is more recent, it is a bit more capable at the same budget. Watch the review linked above to find out all current benchmarks.

 

[punkncat]

I must be missing something in regards to reading over multitasking/workstation topics. I thought the general consensus was AMD was better than Intel when it comes to multitasking? I was even contemplating getting the Ryzen 9 5900 😧 Is it just in terms of efficiency AMD has more bang for the buck in terms of multitasking ?

The GPU's I have for resell. I will keep 1 for myself, but I didnt buy any of them for personal use. I got them at MSRP, so I was just saying I would keep 1 and sell the other 2

@Hellfire13 pretty much nails it above.

AMD became prominent and relevant again with the release of Ryzen. A lot of reviewers and fanboi jumped on the parade to knock Intel since they had been resting on the laurels for FAR too many years due to a lack of real competition. The core counts and performance to price were VERY attractive. I currently use a Ryzen 7 as my daily driver, so not saying it just to fanboi the other side of it. There is still value to be had in certain respects but Intel HAS answered. I would say that at this moment the biggest issue with Intel and particularly on the high end side (K skew) is the power draw and heat.

Just this very moment I would suggest a lot of research and consideration before choosing 12th gen. The whole DDR4/DDR5 thing, the (apparent) possibility of strange performance from the efficiency/power cores and so on. There is super attractive pricing on 11th gen if you can be satisfied with "dead end" architecture. (keeping in mind that Ryzen 5xxx is as well). The performance of the two is right on par with each other. The other aspect that can be scary with AMD is that their mobo/chipset varieties to generation and the BIOS quagmire it can become is a WHOLE other issue.
reference- just take a look through the main new posts for how often "new build turns on but no video output" is brought up in reference to AMD. It's not a small or insignificant matter. Make SURE to do your homework in reference to CPU support and base BIOS.

 

[Bob.B]

Intended Usage: Workstation that mainly revolves around multitasking. I sell fulltime with multiple online stores.
Day to day operations mainly consist of, but not limited to these types of simultaneous activity:
- Multiple Chrome Tabs open (Between both personal and business, my tab count can get pretty pathetic I must admit)
- Web Scraping (Legally. Not scraping any type of sensitive or private information. Only getting data anyone could get manually)
- E-Commerce driven software(s)
- Watching YouTube
- Very light video editing with Corel Video Studio

There is usually searches going on in the background multiple days a week.

I do not game and I realize this build would be considered overkill for its intended use, but I like having the option to game if something changes + just like to somewhat stay with the current times. If a piece of software comes out or I want to do something more with the build in the future Im not limited.


I know the Ryzen 7 5800X has the propensity to get hot so Im wondering if that CPU cooler sufficient?
I like that case below and also really like the LIAN LI LANCOOL II MESH C RGB SNOW WHITE - ATX Case

I have an ASUS GeForce GTX OC 1650 4GB - ASUS GeForce 3060 I included in the parts list & PNY GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB XLR8 Gaming OC Edition (Single Fan)
I included the 3060 in the parts list just to make sure my case and PSU would be sufficient. I will keep 2 of these GPU's and sell the other.


Thanks for all critiques and input. Tech is 1 of the few things I enjoy learning about ~ This will be my 2nd ever build


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($349.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.99 @ GameStop)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($153.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA P2 650 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair LL140 51.5 CFM 140 mm Fans 2-Pack ($69.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1319.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-07 08:09 EST-0500

Be aware the hdd is smr.
Depending on what your usage will be that might be an issue.

 

[geofelt]

Your plan would work as is.
I have a few thoughts on it:

Avoid any use of a HDD if you can.
Instead, buy a single larger samsung m.2 for everything.
You can always add storage later if you fill up the initial size.
Best use for a HDD is for external backup.

DRP4 PRO is a nice cooler, but the ram clearance is 40mm. Your ripjaws V height is 42mm. Corsair lpx is low profile ram.
Or, Noctua NH-D15s has 65mm clearance.

A good way to evaluate processors is to look at the passmark performance ratings.
For example, the R7-5800x has 16 threads and a rating of 28433. That is when all 16 threads are fully utilized. Not likely excepting for multithreaded apps.
The single thread rating is 3492. That is what gives a pc quickness.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+5800X&id=3869

The other processor you referenced, the r9-5900 (really the 5900X) has 24 threads and a rating of 39486/3495
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+9+5900X&id=3870
It is not likely a better choice for you unless you can fill up the added 8 threads.

If you want the very best, and have the budget for it, look at the $600 Intel I9-12900K with 24 threads and a rating of 40158/4201.

Or, a better competitor to the 5800X would be
the I5-12600K 16 threads 23949/3946
Or the I7-12700K 20 threads 32642/3992.

If you do not have the need for fast graphics, each of the intel K suffix processors include integrated graphics, obviating the need a discrete graphics card.
You may find that you can market both of the cards you have.

Do use a quality PSU with a 7-10 year warranty.
How strong you need is usually gated by the graphics card.
Here is a handy chart:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
The 650w unit you picked should be fine.
It does not hurt to go stronger, the psu will only draw the power demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.

For heavy multitasking, you need sufficient ram to hold all the active work.
32gb seems ok to me.

Intel 12th gen does support DDR5 today, but DDR4 performs equally weell in most situations.
Both DDR4 and DDR5 Z690 motherboards are available, but DDR5 versions and the DDR5 ram are harder to come by and are more expensive.

 

[RKD2313]

@Hellfire13 pretty much nails it above.

AMD became prominent and relevant again with the release of Ryzen. A lot of reviewers and fanboi jumped on the parade to knock Intel since they had been resting on the laurels for FAR too many years due to a lack of real competition. The core counts and performance to price were VERY attractive. I currently use a Ryzen 7 as my daily driver, so not saying it just to fanboi the other side of it. There is still value to be had in certain respects but Intel HAS answered. I would say that at this moment the biggest issue with Intel and particularly on the high end side (K skew) is the power draw and heat.

Just this very moment I would suggest a lot of research and consideration before choosing 12th gen. The whole DDR4/DDR5 thing, the (apparent) possibility of strange performance from the efficiency/power cores and so on. There is super attractive pricing on 11th gen if you can be satisfied with "dead end" architecture. (keeping in mind that Ryzen 5xxx is as well). The performance of the two is right on par with each other. The other aspect that can be scary with AMD is that their mobo/chipset varieties to generation and the BIOS quagmire it can become is a WHOLE other issue.
reference- just take a look through the main new posts for how often "new build turns on but no video output" is brought up in reference to AMD. It's not a small or insignificant matter. Make SURE to do your homework in reference to CPU support and base BIOS.

I will do some reading for sure before I start ordering. I understand what you're talking about, but I dont understand in enough detail to make an informed decision so I will try to learn more.

Be aware the hdd is smr.
Depending on what your usage will be that might be an issue.

I got an HDD just for storage like music, pics, SKU lists of products and stuff like that

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700f-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118359
Intel Core i7-12700F $318.99

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Mortar-Gaming-Motherboard-Socket/dp/B09PXD16F6/
MSI MAG B660M Mortar WiFi DDR4 $179.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660M-MORTAR-WIFI-DDR4

or ...

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Tomahawk-Gaming-Motherboard-Socket/dp/B09PXL3ZZB/
MSI MAG B660 Tomahawk WiFi DDR4 $189.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660-TOMAHAWK-WIFI-DDR4

Review of that cpu w/benchmarks.

https://www.techspot.com/review/2391-intel-core-i7-12700/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydgN4W97Esk&t=708s

 

[Bob.B]

I will do some reading for sure before I start ordering. I understand what you're talking about, but I dont understand in enough detail to make an informed decision so I will try to learn more.


I got an HDD just for storage like music, pics, SKU lists of products and stuff like that

Smr sort of lends itself to write-once/read-many.
If you do a lot of update writes it's not very speedy.

 

[RKD2313]

UPDATED

About to start ordering unless something seems bad/off
** Workstation w/ heavy multitasking Build**

• Not sure if Im going with Win 10 Pro/Home? - OR - Win 11
• $50 to $100ish on case fans
• I have a PNY 1660 GPU or I can use the 1050 Ti in my current build

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($374.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Shadow Rock 3 CPU Cooler  ($49.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($213.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($157.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($148.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1295.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-22 22:00 EST-0500

 

[Lafong]

UPDATED

About to start ordering unless something seems bad/off
** Workstation w/ heavy multitasking Build**

• Not sure if Im going with Win 10 Pro/Home? - OR - Win 11
• $50 to $100ish on case fans
• I have a PNY 1660 GPU or I can use the 1050 Ti in my current build

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($374.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Shadow Rock 3 CPU Cooler  ($49.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($213.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($157.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($148.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1295.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-22 22:00 EST-0500

Did you give up on the idea of a second drive completely?

Maybe you have an unmentioned external?

I'd want to have some sort of second drive for backup purposes if nothing else.

 

[RKD2313]

Did you give up on the idea of a second drive completely?

Maybe you have an unmentioned external?

I'd want to have some sort of second drive for backup purposes if nothing else.

Yea, I have a 2 or 3 TB External HD

 

[Lafong]

Have you confirmed no issues regarding that cooler.......

RAM clearance?

Short enough to fit into that Phanteks case?

Phanteks case fans may or may not be noisy and a candidate for replacement. I don't know.

Might save a dollar or 2 with 3200 speed RAM.

 

[RKD2313]

Have you confirmed no issues regarding that cooler....... No, I depend on forums and PCPartsPicker for the most part when it comes to compatibility/fitment. I Can look up some builds which have either that CPU and Cooler or that that Cooler and Case and figure out whats what if need be.

RAM clearance? Same ^

Short enough to fit into that Phanteks case? Same ^

Phanteks case fans may or may not be noisy and a candidate for replacement. I don't know. This is something I hadn't considered at all. Originally I wanted the Li Lan Mesh II. I will look at some completed builds/comments tomorrow. I know its not good practice to rely on others for information/advice that involves thousand(s) of dollars. I lazily assume between this forum and PCParts, I will be alerted if there is a discrepancy. In the Summer of 2017 I built my first computer (This one Im on now) and used these forums + PCParts and much to my own surprise I havent had 1 single issue Knock on wood It has surpassed my expectations even though I didn't really have much expectations for it, but its been a awesome computer for no more than I put into it 5 years ago.

Might save a dollar or 2 with 3200 speed RAM.

 

[Lafong]

PC Partpicker is usually reliable, but hardly infallible.

The height of your cooler in millimeters should certainly be stated outright at the manufacturer's web site.

The maximum acceptable height for a cooler for that Phanteks case should certainly be stated outright at the Phanteks web site.

It's entirely up to you whether or not to confirm on your own or to accept anything else as fact.

Case fan cooling efficiency or noise: I don't know how important it is to you. You can certainly replace them at a later date if unhappy.

 

[Hellfire13]

UPDATED

About to start ordering unless something seems bad/off
** Workstation w/ heavy multitasking Build**

• Not sure if Im going with Win 10 Pro/Home? - OR - Win 11
• $50 to $100ish on case fans
• I have a PNY 1660 GPU or I can use the 1050 Ti in my current build

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($374.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Shadow Rock 3 CPU Cooler  ($49.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($213.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($157.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($148.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1295.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-22 22:00 EST-0500

Looks good.