News PlayStation 5 Refresh Boasts New 6nm AMD Oberon Plus SoC

[Admin]

TSMC’s N6 silicon will be a significant contributor in allowing Sony to pare back the PS5 cooling system and reduce system weight for its 2022 refresh.

PlayStation 5 Refresh Boasts New 6nm AMD Oberon Plus SoC : Read more

 

[thisisaname]

Odd Sony is being quiet on the benefits of the new system refresh?

 

[RedBear87]

Odd Sony is being quiet on the benefits of the new system refresh?

The benefits are mostly for their bottom line, why should they care? I mean, maybe Europeans might benefit from the lower energy consumption, energy prices here are getting crazy, but it's just a 10% energy save for an appliance that isn't very energy hungry to begin with.

 

[watzupken]

Odd Sony is being quiet on the benefits of the new system refresh?

I thought they typically don't. People usually figure out that there's a node upgrade because of changes like the size and cooling solution, and they went to investigate. In this case, there is no benefit to the end user in my opinion. The PS5 still looks massive, though it shed quite a lot of weight. The weight is not a metric that people will consider when buying the PS5 anyway. The PSU is built in, so the end user won't see a difference as well.

 

[Deleted member 14196]

The benefits are mostly for their bottom line, why should they care? I mean, maybe Europeans might benefit from the lower energy consumption, energy prices here are getting crazy, but it's just a 10% energy save for an appliance that isn't very energy hungry to begin with.

No, what’s for their bottom line is the hundred dollar increase in price. There’s no quality updates.

The PlayStation five is a huge clunky system next to the Xbox series X. We’ve got them both and I can’t stand the PlayStation. The operating system totally sucks next to the Microsoft operating system, and their online abilities are still weak by comparison.

 

[gggplaya]

Odd Sony is being quiet on the benefits of the new system refresh?

They only do that when there's a slowdown in sales, then they can make a small refresh to get people to upgrade or generate hype to buy the "new" one. But as it is now, PS5's still sell out and can't be kept in retail shelves. So why bother with the additional marketing costs?

 

[RedBear87]

No, what’s for their bottom line is the hundred dollar increase in price. There’s no quality updates.

Because 6nm is denser they're getting more chips from the same wafer, also like they've mentioned in the article, a cooler chip requires a less complex cooling, which should cost less to manufacture. Sony did something similar with the PS3, the process node was changed several times, but it was never announced with much fanfare because the performance was identical and it only brought a reduction in power consumption (and in some instances, for unrelated reasons, you were actually getting less features, the first node reduction from 90nm to 65nm for the CPU was done with the 3rd gen PS3, which was the first version without any PS2 compatibility).

 

[spongiemaster]

The PS5 still looks massive, though it shed quite a lot of weight. The weight is not a metric that people will consider when buying the PS5 anyway.

Sure it is. Sony is pulling the same garbage that food producers are. Rather than raising prices, they stealthily reduce the amount of product you get for the same cost. People buying this new PS5 revision are getting ripped off. If I'm looking for a PS5 today and spending $500 on it, I'm definitely looking for the older heavier version, because I want the maximum the amount of material for my dollar.

 

[bit_user]

Odd Sony is being quiet on the benefits of the new system refresh?

They probably don't want to create a situation where retailers have trouble moving the old models and have to resort to discounting. Besides, for most gamers, they probably shouldn't notice.

Sony's previous consoles have gone through multiple rounds of cost-reductions. The only time they were actually marketed is when it enabled smaller, lower-cost form factors like the slim models. However, there were other rounds of cost reductions & chip die-shrinks that went unnoticed by the general public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_technical_specifications#Configurations

 

[bit_user]

the first node reduction from 90nm to 65nm for the CPU was done with the 3rd gen PS3, which was the first version without any PS2 compatibility).

Because of this, I actually spent $540 on a 1st gen PS3 60 GB, back in the day.

So, at least I wouldn't be spending more on a PS5. Take that, inflation!
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Sony is pulling the same garbage that food producers are. Rather than raising prices, they stealthily reduce the amount of product you get for the same cost.

I know you're joking, but the context is that costs are going up for everyone. My employer was too slow to raise prices on our products, and it really hurt our bottom line because our suppliers are charging more. If Sony can save enough money in the respin that they can merely hold US prices constant, that's not insignificant.