Pleas Help Multimedia - Gaming / Streaming Build 900-1200$

TomsHardwareUsername

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Looking to build a pc for :

Multimedia stuff using programs like (Autodesk maya , cinema 4d , zbrush , substance painter , keyshot , photoshop , lightroom , after effects .. etc ) doing things ranging from , Graphic Design , 3d modeling , rendering , video and photo editing , as well as some machinima in a virtual world game called (Second Life) and of course i would like to max out all the current games and ones to come (i play things like , COD , OVERWATCH , BLACK DESERT ONLINE , GTAV etc ) also to stream to twitch

my budget is:

900 Min - 1100-1200 max (maybe 1300) USD i live in the Usa (California)

looking to build around black friday / cyber monday

something i put together please give me any input and thoughts on changes or builds i already have a 750 power supply

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/kF9CD8

also i would love any recommendations on a good monitor for editing and graphic design i guess i would need a ips one?
 

TomsHardwareUsername

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Question from TomsHardwareUsername : "PC Upgrade Help Wanted Please"

Hello everyone i was hoping for some advice to upgrade my build for my 3d hobbies. I’m torn between another 1070 to run dual sli for gpu rendering, however i feel with the new rtx 2080ti cards out (which i doubt id pay 1200 for one graphics card at the moment) i was thinking of maybe getting just the 2080 or maybe just a 1080ti not sure which would be better for my budget im hoping that i will be able to keep most of my current pc parts. I mainly use octane at the moment with c4d im hoping to reach better rendering times and overall a faster workflow. my other thought is if i should get a new cpu i was thinking of the Threadripper 1900X not sure if that would be a good fit i currenly have intel so i know that will require me to get a new motherboard if i were to switch to amd. I do know i need a better power supply as well anyways please feel free to drop any feedback or build suggestions you think would be good for what im after . Mainly modeling in Cinema 4D, Maya, Zbrush, Substance, Photoshop ,Octane , some cpu rendering and a bit of gamming . My Budget is around 1300$ im hoping to buy most of my parts around black friday / cyber monday this is my pc current build below hoping to still be able to use most of the parts i have . live in California

(im still pretty new to this whole thing so any build advice is greatly apperciated )

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dD72ZR
 

Aeacus

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For your rig upgrade, how about this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($419.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($218.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Ultra Titanium 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($189.35 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $1218.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-08 14:15 EST-0500

Changes made
CPU: i7-6700K -> i7-9700K
MoBo: Asus Z170 -> MSI Z390
GPU: added 2nd GTX 1070
PSU: EVGA 750 BQ -> Seasonic PRIME Ultra 850 80+ Titanium

Few words
9th gen Core i7 gives you 8 cores/threads and it being the latest tech, CPU also has considerable gain in multi-core performance,
comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-9700K/3502vs4030

Though, for your production work, i9-9900K would be much better since it also has hyperthreading with 8/16 cores/threads. So, keep your eye out for it if you can get it with a good price. Else-ways Core i9 would blow your budget.
i7-9700K vs i9-9900K comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-9700K-vs-Intel-Core-i9-9900K/4030vs4028

With 9th gen CPU, you'll also need new MoBo. So put in MSI MoBo which supports 2-way SLI, has built-in wi-fi and also has some white accents on it to match your white theme.

Since you're looking for SLI, put in 2nd GTX 1070. Note: SLI is only good for production work. For gaming, you'd be better off going with single GPU since SLI support in games is being phased out. And even IF the game does support SLI, the gain in performance can be up to 50% of 2nd GPUs performance, while you'd get double the heat production and power consumption.

And lastly, replaced your PSU with the best 850W PSU money can buy at current date. Seasonic PRIME Ultra also has the best efficiency there is (80+ Titanium) and it comes with 12 years of OEM warranty,
review: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=550

As far as wattage goes, GTX 1070 in 2-way SLI, at peak load, consumes up to 330W. Add the rest of the system to it at 200W or so and you're looking towards 530W. With CPU/GPU OC, you could push PC power consumption up to 650W or so, making 850W PSU more than enough.
I too have Seasonic PRIME 80+ Titanium PSU in use with my Skylake build but mine is 650W (full specs with pics in my sig).
 

Aeacus

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With OctaneRender, it's better when you don't enable SLI. But 2x GPUs still give better render performance than 1x GPU, because to get equal performance out of 1x GPU compared to the 2x GTX 1070, you'd be looking towards at least Titan Xp, which costs far more than 2nd GTX 1070.

6. What is the best way to increase OctaneRender’s performance?

As OctaneRender completely relies on the GPU for rendering and does not use the CPU (besides scene loading), a more powerful graphics card (or multiple GPUs, see next question) will be required to increase Octane’s rendering performance, not adding more CPU cores. Octane scales linearly with the number of CUDA cores within a given GPU architecture (e.g. the GTX 690 with 3072 CUDA cores is twice as fast in Octane as the GTX 680 with 1536 CUDA cores).

7. Can OctaneRender use multiple GPUs?

Yes! Octane Render completely relies on the GPU for rendering performance and scales extremely well. If your motherboard can accept more than one video card, adding additional video cards will greatly improve Octane’s rendering speed because Octane’s performance scales perfectly with the number of GPUs (e.g. rendering with four GTX Titans will be 4x faster than using only 1 GTX Titan), without the need for SLI. The cards can be different models, allowing GPUs from two completely different architectures to be used in a machine with multiple PCI-E slots (such as a GTX 560 in the primary slot and a GTX 780 in the second).

The cost of adding an additional NVIDIA GPU to your system is very low compared to the cost of a small renderfarm of 10 to 15 computers to get the same performance with a CPU based rendering solution.

8. Does OctaneRender take advantage of SLI?

No, but it can use multiple video cards for rendering (see above). It is also recommended to disable the SLI option in your NVIDIA control panel to maximize Octane’s rendering performance.
source: https://home.otoy.com/render/octane-render/faqs

Since you'll need CUDA cores, let's take a look at those;

GTX 1070 - 1920 CUDA cores
2x GTX 1070 - 3840 CUDA cores

RTX 2080 - 2944 CUDA cores
GTX 1080 Ti - 3584 CUDA cores
Titan Xp - 3840 CUDA cores
RTX 2080 Ti - 4352 CUDA cores
Titan Z - 5760 CUDA cores

I don't know about you but for me, 512 extra CUDA cores (over 2x GTX 1070) for $810 is very steep price to pay if you go with RTX 2080 Ti. For 800 bucks, you can buy 3rd and 4th GTX 1070, quadrupling your current CUDA core amount, to the total of 7680. And even when you get RTX 2080 Ti and run it alongside your GTX 1070, you'll get (4352 + 1920) 6272 CUDA cores with same amount of spent money, which is 1408 CUDA cores less if you were to run 4x GTX 1070.
Oh, if you plan to go with 4x GPU route, you'd need another MoBo, which has 4x PCI-E x16 slots and also far more powerful PSU, at least 1kW.